Re: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread David
It is my understanding that dark fiber is un-used/non-saturated fiber. I havn't heard that its a special type of fiber, just a condition of the fiber. "bahadir korkmaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > hi. > what is dark fiber? > i found some s

RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread Croyle, James
Dark fiber means you push the light and is currently unused. Don't worry, I was in the dark when the term was introduced to me. :-) Jim Croyle Network Engineer -Original Message- From: bahadir korkmaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTE

RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread Darren Johnson
Blatantly ripped from Newton Telecom Dictionary: Dark Fiber Unused fiber through which no light in transmitted or installed fiber optic cable not carrying a signal. Sometimes dark fiber is sold by a carrier without the (usually) accompanying transmission service. It's "dark" because it's sold wit

Re: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread Bart Kurek
000 10:06 AM Subject: Re: what is dark fiber? Hi, Dark fiber   Dark fiber is optical fiber infrastructure (cabling and repeater) that is currently in place but is not being used. Optical fiber conveys information in the form of light pulses so the "dark" means no light p

RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread Richard Dennard
dark fiber is a term usually used by providers to indicate fiber that does not have light passing over it (unused). Richard Dennard Network Engineer HY_SPEED_DATA phone 814-260-3966 fax 814-274-7370 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of bahadir

Re: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread ROUTHIER, YVES
Dark Fiber is when you only lease the transport for yourself ( company use ) you do not lease the services like IP network or 10 baseT LAN you can use it as a FDDI ring or giga. ethernet most provider will use the term black fiber when the services require by some one is not define in there comp

RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread Kane, Christopher A.
ffices. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 2:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what is dark fiber? It is my understanding that dark fiber is un-used/non-saturated fiber. I havn't heard that its a special type of f

Re: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread Martin-Guy Richard
Hi, Dark fiber   Dark fiber is optical fiber infrastructure (cabling and repeater) that is currently in place but is not being used. Optical fiber conveys information in the form of light pulses so the "dark" means no light pulses are being sent. Dark fiber can refer to infrastructure that is in

RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread Nabil Fares
] Subject: RE: what is dark fiber? Blatantly ripped from Newton Telecom Dictionary: Dark Fiber Unused fiber through which no light in transmitted or installed fiber optic cable not carrying a signal. Sometimes dark fiber is sold by a carrier without the (usually) accompanying transmission service

Re: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread Karen . Young
Think for a minute. How does fiber transmit data? Using light. So when the provider is selling "dark fiber" it means that it's fiber without the light source to transmit the data. You provide your own. Generally get it at a discount but in practice it ends up costing about the same since the cost

Re: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread Robert Padjen
David is correct. Dark fiber is unprovisioned by the carrier and is useful for campus and MAN installations. For example, I can order dark fiber between buildings in the same city (under 70 miles) and run whatever services I wish (DWDM, GE, etc). 'Light' fiber (the term does not exist) is provisio

RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread Jaeger, Dennis (CC-Network Dev)
5, 2000 1:26 PM To: bahadir korkmaz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: what is dark fiber? Blatantly ripped from Newton Telecom Dictionary: Dark Fiber Unused fiber through which no light in transmitted or installed fiber optic cable not carrying a signal. Sometimes dark fiber is sold by a carrier

RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread Yee, Jason
I think dark fibre means a OC3 or OC12 link Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of bahadir korkmaz Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 12:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: what is dark fiber? hi. what is dark fiber? i found some sites

RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-05 Thread Choi, Howard CW
nk. Got it ? Howard -- From: Yee, Jason To: 'bahadir korkmaz'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: what is dark fiber? Date: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:27AM I think dark fibre means a OC3 or OC12 link Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-06 Thread Fomes Iain
seen it used for up to 20 30 40 miles > -Original Message- > From: Richard Dennard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 September 2000 19:53 > To: bahadir korkmaz > Cc: Cisco > Subject: RE: what is dark fiber? > > dark fiber is a term usually used by pro

RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-06 Thread Gabriel . Neagoe
--- > From: Fomes Iain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 4:04 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: what is dark fiber? > > > this is a misconception. > Dark fiber or Dark fibre as we can it here in England.God

RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-07 Thread Brad Beck
]] >> Sent:05 September 2000 19:53 >> To: bahadir korkmaz >> Cc: Cisco >> Subject: RE: what is dark fiber? >> >> dark fiber is a term usually used by providers to indicate fiber that does >> not have light passing over it (unused). >>

Re: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-08 Thread Ty Hill
Depends on who you are talking to. To me dark fiber means 1. fiber strands that are currently not in use, or 2. private fiber that you or your company has installed, that is not part of the local telephone company's infrastructure. This is how I have been using the term for over 15 years. "Ye

Re: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-08 Thread Cthulu, CCIE Candidate
Actually, none of you are right! Here's the only correct and right answer: Dark fiber is when you poke an active SMF strand in your eye and blind yourself in at least 1 eye. Immediately after, you will stumble around in the dark, tripping over the fiber that blinded you, hence the term, "dark f

Re: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-08 Thread michael champion
I thought that dark fiber was only used with DED's (dark-emitting diodes). MLC Ty Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Depends on who you are talking to. To me dark fiber means 1. fiber strands > that are currently not in use, or 2. private f

Re: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-11 Thread CiscoDiety
unCSA, Etc. - Original Message - From: "Yee, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'bahadir korkmaz'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 10:27 PM Subject: RE: what is dark fiber? > I think dark fibre

RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-11 Thread Stanfield Hilman B(Brad) CONT NSSG
dir korkmaz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what is dark fiber? Dark fiber is fiber that is not being used. ie, no light is passed through it, hence the term "dark" Clayton Dukes Internetwork Solutions Engineer Internetwork Management Engine

RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-11 Thread Yee, Jason
thank you -Original Message- From: CiscoDiety [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:12 PM To: Yee, Jason; 'bahadir korkmaz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what is dark fiber? Dark fiber is fiber that is not being used. ie, no light is passed through