Re: [c-nsp] in praise of the cat6500 Re: Flow tools

2012-01-21 Thread Alessandra Forti
Sup2T was because the Sup720 is already 6 years old and I don't know if it is going to last another 6 years. That's why I decided to ask on this thread. You all seem pretty enthusiast about it. On 21/01/2012 00:33, Phil Mayers wrote: On 01/20/2012 10:11 PM, Alessandra Forti wrote: The

Re: [c-nsp] 7600 Owners, failure stats wanted

2012-01-21 Thread Pete Templin
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 06:19, James Bensleyjwbens...@gmail.com wrote: I can have dual RSPs but how likely are they too fail? I want to know from 7600's owners/managers out there, how many SUPs or RSPs have you had fail on you (or not if non have failed on you), and how long were they in

Re: [c-nsp] 7600 Owners, failure stats wanted

2012-01-21 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 07:29:26PM -0500, Jon Lewis wrote: We do this with single supervisors, and a full redundant identically configured chassis. Customer's who care get a link to each chassis. Same here. Not that much hardware outage over the last years (one Sup720-10G arrived DOA,

Re: [c-nsp] 7600 Owners, failure stats wanted

2012-01-21 Thread James Bensley
Many of you are mentioning dual-homed customers, which of course is always an option. What I meant though is that it's very rare to find a set up where every single customer is dual-homed. So, in a typical deployment, do your line cards fail long before a SUP/RSP, or vice versa? For those that

Re: [c-nsp] 7600 Owners, failure stats wanted

2012-01-21 Thread Pete Templin
On 1/21/12 8:28 AM, James Bensley wrote: Many of you are mentioning dual-homed customers, which of course is always an option. What I meant though is that it's very rare to find a set up where every single customer is dual-homed. So, in a typical deployment, do your line cards fail long before a

[c-nsp] WS-G5486 GBIC faulty Tx laser

2012-01-21 Thread Martin T
Has anyone experienced a situation where GBIC occasionally does not transmit properly with required power? I had a WS-G5486 GBIC in WS-X4306-GB module connected to a SFP in another switch and all of the sudden link started to flap with 4-6min intervals. It had been stable for years. Rx power at

[c-nsp] Cisco 7600 VPLS support

2012-01-21 Thread Pavel Dimow
Hi, I am trying to understand what does it mean when cisco says that we need es+20 card for 7600 facing the core. Does it mean that we must use 7600 as access switch in order to provide VPLS to our customeers or we could use for example 2960 as access with trunks to 7600? I guess not, but ...

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 VPLS support

2012-01-21 Thread Lars Christensen
Hi Pavel You should use either ES-cards or SIP-cards core facing. For access you can use any sort of interfaces, either LAN-cards or dedicated access switches such as the 2960S-series and like. Lars Christensen CCIE #20292 Den 21/01/2012 kl. 16.49 skrev Pavel Dimow: Hi, I am trying

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 VPLS support

2012-01-21 Thread Jason Lixfeld
Can one not use ES ports as LAN facing interfaces or 2960 uplink interfaces in a VPLS environment? I know they can be used as such in an EoMPLS environment with non-ES core facing interfaces. -- Sent from my mobile device On 2012-01-21, at 11:24 AM, Lars Christensen perseu...@gmail.com

Re: [c-nsp] 7600 Owners, failure stats wanted

2012-01-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, January 20, 2012 08:19:19 PM James Bensley wrote: Are they more likely to fail the other line cards? It doesn't seem very common practice to have to of every card in the chassis and provide customers with a port on two switching modules for example, so why dual RSPs? Are they

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 VPLS support

2012-01-21 Thread Pavel Dimow
Hi Lars, that means that we need just one 7600 with ES card and we can have as many 2960 for example as access switches as long as they are connected to this 7600 or they don't need to be directly connected to this 7600? I just can figure out whats so special that ES cards do when they are

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 VPLS support

2012-01-21 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:30:48AM -0500, Jason Lixfeld wrote: Can one not use ES ports as LAN facing interfaces or 2960 uplink interfaces in a VPLS environment? VPLS requires extra processing towards the MPLS core which can only be done by ES and SIP cards. See the cisco-nsp archives.

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 VPLS support

2012-01-21 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 06:45:25PM +0100, Pavel Dimow wrote: I just can figure out whats so special that ES cards do when they are connected to core switches. You could just read the thread that covered *this*, here in the list, about two weeks ago... ES and SIP cards have brains, and for

Re: [c-nsp] WS-G5486 GBIC faulty Tx laser

2012-01-21 Thread John Brown
Dirty connectors? Connector not fully seated in GBIC/SFP? Problem went away when you mechanically exercised the links ? Did you take the DUT (device under test) and put it back into the same scenario where it was failing to see if the failure continues ? If the failure didn't continue then I

[c-nsp] side comment on VSS vs 7Ks

2012-01-21 Thread chris stand
(... and this is reason #1 why we are not using VSS) gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! We have two data centers, one with VSS one with 2 * 7Ks. Both DC have 5548s and UCS chassis with L2 extended between both. I can create a 40Gb or 80Gb port channel from the VSS to

Re: [c-nsp] side comment on VSS vs 7Ks

2012-01-21 Thread Chris Evans
Inside of Cisco brand maybe not. Outside of Cisco definitely possible. On Jan 21, 2012 5:02 PM, chris stand cstand...@gmail.com wrote: (... and this is reason #1 why we are not using VSS) gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! We have two data centers, one with VSS

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 VPLS support

2012-01-21 Thread Jason Lixfeld
On 2012-01-21, at 12:55 PM, Gert Doering wrote: I know they can be used as such in an EoMPLS environment with non-ES core facing interfaces. EoMPLS can be used with plain LAN cards on Sup720-3B and up. What I should have said was using ES ports as LAN facing interfaces allows you to use

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7600 VPLS support

2012-01-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On Sunday, January 22, 2012 08:01:01 AM Jason Lixfeld wrote: What I should have said was using ES ports as LAN facing interfaces allows you to use locally significant VLANs instead of riddling a box with SVIs. Indeed, but if only the ES line cards were cheap enough to do this at scale. But