Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-28 Thread b.turn...@twt.it
s been on the Sup720), with the 6500/6800 > >>> platform, you can only do port-to-port or subint-to-subint VPWS, but > >>> not port-to-subint (which you can on the more capable boxes, or with > >>> the ES > >> cards on the 6500/6800). > >>> > &

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-28 Thread Chris Welti
@slimey.org To: dim0...@hotmail.com CC: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807 On Thu Nov 27, 2014 at 10:18:41AM +, R LAS wrote: Discussing a new architecture of DCI (Data Center Interconnection), Cisco raccomends both ASR9k and 6807. The architecture requested by the custome

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-28 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, November 28, 2014 10:24:09 AM b.turn...@twt.it wrote: > Don't you still need es/sip cards for this ? > If it has changed it would be great. The SUP720 has always been able to support VLAN-mode to port-mode. You just need to interwork as one poster mentioned a few messages ago. Mark

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-28 Thread b.turn...@twt.it
hu Nov 27, 2014 at 11:05:18AM +, R LAS wrote: > >> Hi Simon > >> can you detail more "ASR9k can be more flexible on EoMPLS (VPLS) than > 6807" ? > >> > >> Regards > >> > >>> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 10:26:55 + > >>> From: si..

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread Jonas Björklund
On Thu, 27 Nov 2014, Simon Lockhart wrote: In simple terms (and I apologise if this is fixed in Sup2T, as most of my experience has been on the Sup720), with the 6500/6800 platform, you can only do port-to-port or subint-to-subint VPWS, but not port-to-subint (which you can on the more capable

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread Vitkovský Adam
Hi Gert, > From: Gert Doering [mailto:g...@greenie.muc.de] > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 3:27 PM > > What should we recommend to our customers Maserati or Ferrari - they > both have a Ferrari engine inside though the price difference is huge. > > Well, as the underlying architecture of ASR9

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 01:30:00PM +, Vitkovský Adam wrote: > What should we recommend to our customers Maserati or Ferrari - they both > have a Ferrari engine inside though the price difference is huge. Well, as the underlying architecture of ASR9k and 6807/6500 is way different (NPU vs

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread Chris Welti
n can you detail more "ASR9k can be more flexible on EoMPLS (VPLS) than 6807" ? Regards Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 10:26:55 + From: si...@slimey.org To: dim0...@hotmail.com CC: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807 On Thu Nov 27, 2014 at 10:18:41AM +, R LAS wro

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, November 27, 2014 03:47:35 PM Mattias Gyllenvarg wrote: > Disregarding price, the only real issue with the ASR9k > platform is the software upgrade procedure. *shudder* The promise was that that would go away with IOS XR 5 and later. Of course, I was not naive to believe it :-). C

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread Mattias Gyllenvarg
Disregarding price, the only real issue with the ASR9k platform is the software upgrade procedure. *shudder* On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:37 PM, R LAS wrote: > DCs are 40 km away... > > QFX5100 is the competitor, but on the DC-LAN, not on the DCI > > > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] AS

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread Vitkovský Adam
nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of R > LAS > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 11:19 AM > To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807 > > Discussing a new architecture of DCI (Data Center Interconnection), Cisco > raccomends both ASR9k and 680

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread R LAS
DCs are 40 km away... QFX5100 is the competitor, but on the DC-LAN, not on the DCI > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807 > From: and...@2sheds.de > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 22:39:03 +1100 > CC: si...@slimey.org; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > To: dim0...@hotmail.com > > The 680

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread Andrew Miehs
Sent from a mobile device > On 27 Nov 2014, at 21:26, Simon Lockhart wrote: > > 6807 has a lot of potential (880G per slot), but it's not supported by either > Supervisors or Linecards that are available today (current limit is 80G/slot). Always love this statement - yes - you can use the sam

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread Andrew Miehs
>> To: dim0...@hotmail.com >> CC: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net >> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807 >> >>> On Thu Nov 27, 2014 at 10:18:41AM +, R LAS wrote: >>> Discussing a new architecture of DCI (Data Center Interconnection), Cisco >>> racc

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Thu Nov 27, 2014 at 10:18:41AM +, R LAS wrote: > Discussing a new architecture of DCI (Data Center Interconnection), Cisco > raccomends both ASR9k and 6807. The architecture requested by the customer > forecast MPLS/VPLS supported by DCI. > > From pricing point of view there is a quite big

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread Simon Lockhart
; To: dim0...@hotmail.com > > CC: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807 > > > > On Thu Nov 27, 2014 at 10:18:41AM +, R LAS wrote: > > > Discussing a new architecture of DCI (Data Center Interconnection), Cisco > > > raccomends both ASR9k

Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread R LAS
Hi Simon can you detail more "ASR9k can be more flexible on EoMPLS (VPLS) than 6807" ? Regards > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 10:26:55 + > From: si...@slimey.org > To: dim0...@hotmail.com > CC: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASR vs 6807 > > On

[c-nsp] ASR vs 6807

2014-11-27 Thread R LAS
Discussing a new architecture of DCI (Data Center Interconnection), Cisco raccomends both ASR9k and 6807. The architecture requested by the customer forecast MPLS/VPLS supported by DCI. >From pricing point of view there is a quite big difference (win 6807), from >feature point of view Cisco says