Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 10:02:21PM +0100, Dean Smith wrote: Our next load balancing requirement is now in design...and I spent today with a Foundry SE. You might want to check out the Citrix Netscaler series. We discovered them about two years ago, and are happy users since then. We do

Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-08 Thread Fred Reimer
@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers I've been running the CSM for about the year and a half I've been at the service provider I work for. I like the fact that it's pretty scalable and that you can be multiple L2 hops down the line and build it out however you like

Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-08 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 09:06:44AM -0400, Fred Reimer wrote: I'm not in sales, so I don't have to worry about cost ;-), but I do know there was, and still may be, a special on the appliance (not the module) where you get some large percentage off (35% or 50% or something) in addition to

Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-08 Thread jason . plank
They are definitely trying to get people to migrate towards the ACE appliance that don't have 6500's. The licensing thing I find annoying but I guess it keeps it affordable for a company that may only need 100MB of 500MB of throughput from the device. They were (as of a month or so ago) also

Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-08 Thread Justin Shore
Gert Doering wrote: I always thought the ACE has a list price of zero - all you need to buy is the license for the number of contexts and the license for the amount of gbits you want it to handle... That's how our's were billed out. The line item with the dollar amount was ACE-04G-LIC. The

Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-08 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
Moreover, CSM 3.X has announced end-of-support in 2011. While there is no comparable EOL/EOS data (that I know of) on CSM 4.2 software, I have no reason to think it's going to drop out of support soon. While the CSM may not formally be announced EoX, it's not sup- ported in recent versions

Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-08 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
And if Cisco wants to hold us CSM customers hostage for working redundancy, we'll find another solution. In my experience, redundancy on CSM has worked fine. The fact that you have to more or less manually configure and maintain redundancy, which some people bitch a lot, makes me wonder...

Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-08 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 09:27:00PM +0200, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists wrote: While the CSM may not formally be announced EoX, it's not sup- ported in recent versions of SX (since SXH) or SR (since SRA), which pretty much amounts to the same thing: R.I.P. Should anyone be surprised? For me,

Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-08 Thread Dean Smith
Sounds like no one has used the ACE I have used the ACE in a critical (but simple) HTTP load balancing environment running 1Gb/s throughput. We endured 6 months of pain before we got a fully stable platform - and only then because we knocked off every L7 feature and now run in pure L4. Last

[c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-07 Thread Ross Vandegrift
Hello everyone, I'm looking to solicit some input from others that are using the Cisco CSM, in particular, service providers that are using it to host layer 4-7 switching for customers. The archives don't seem to have a ton of opinions on these guys. In general, I like the device's performance

Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-07 Thread Ramcharan, Vijay A
over a year since the product was available. Vijay Ramcharan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Vandegrift Sent: April 07, 2008 15:20 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers Hello everyone, I'm looking

Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-07 Thread David Curran
From: Ramcharan, Vijay A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:30:17 + To: Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED], cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Conversation: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers Subject: Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers Last I knew, the CSM was on its way out

Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-07 Thread Ross Vandegrift
Of Ross Vandegrift Sent: April 07, 2008 15:20 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers Hello everyone, I'm looking to solicit some input from others that are using the Cisco CSM, in particular, service providers that are using it to host layer 4-7 switching

Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-07 Thread Chris Riling
] On Behalf Of Ross Vandegrift Sent: April 07, 2008 15:20 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers Hello everyone, I'm looking to solicit some input from others that are using the Cisco CSM, in particular, service providers that are using it to host layer