Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-30 Thread Lincoln Dale
On 29/10/2009, at 9:58 AM, David Hughes wrote: On 28/10/2009, at 11:18 PM, Roland Dobbins wrote: The smartest/sanest thing to do, IMHO, would be to work at migrating to NX-OS, feature-set by feature-set. It's by far the cleanest and best-designed OS platform Cisco have come out with to

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday 30 October 2009 04:13:01 pm Lincoln Dale wrote: one of the luxuries we have with NX-OS is since we have complete separation of control-plane and data-plane there really isn't anything that drops you into software forwarding. that in itself is a major benefit - but it does come with

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-30 Thread sthaug
one of the luxuries we have with NX-OS is since we have complete separation of control-plane and data-plane there really isn't anything that drops you into software forwarding. that in itself is a major benefit - but it does come with the cost that the platform is only capable of

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-30 Thread sthaug
Some might not see that as necessarily a bad thing, provided the ASIC is robust enough to handle all of the user's required features in the hardware path (being the only path) :-). This is one of the things we like about vendor J - packets are either forwarded in software or not at

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-30 Thread Judah Scott
Yeah the software forwarding idea just ends up crashing large boxes like the 7609. If you suddenly enable a feature that causes software forwarding or you run out of TCAM and software starts to make up for that, say goodbye to either performance or your SUP/RSP. On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:45 AM,

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-29 Thread Frank Bulk - iName.com
of BFD. Frank -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Roland Dobbins Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:18 AM To: Cisco-nsp Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore? On Oct 28, 2009, at 7:53 PM, James Weathersby

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-29 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:12 AM, Frank Bulk - iName.com wrote: there's enough implementations using particular 'knobs' that a less than complete feature set would leave the majority of network engineers frustrated. Especially when we're talking about the smaller software-based platforms,

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-29 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:12:46PM -0500, Frank Bulk - iName.com wrote: I would have to disagree -- while there are some features shared by most configurations, there's enough implementations using particular 'knobs' that a less than complete feature set would leave the majority of network

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-28 Thread James Weathersby (jweather)
have been able to do. From: Ryan Hughes [mailto:rshug...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:05 PM To: James Weathersby (jweather) Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore? We will see some of the same efforts put forth in the Cat6500/NXOS to push modularity especially now that we're

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-28 Thread James Weathersby (jweather)
, October 27, 2009 11:05 PM To: James Weathersby (jweather) Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore? We will see some of the same efforts put forth in the Cat6500/NXOS to push modularity especially now that we're looking at a universal image with 15.0? Having worked with NXOS to some extent now, I

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-28 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Oct 28, 2009, at 7:53 PM, James Weathersby (jweather) wrote: A lot of it has to do with the different roles the routers play. The smartest/sanest thing to do, IMHO, would be to work at migrating to NX-OS, feature-set by feature-set. It's by far the cleanest and best-designed OS

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-28 Thread David Hughes
On 28/10/2009, at 11:18 PM, Roland Dobbins wrote: The smartest/sanest thing to do, IMHO, would be to work at migrating to NX-OS, feature-set by feature-set. It's by far the cleanest and best-designed OS platform Cisco have come out with to date. Couldn't agree more. NX-OS looks like a

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-28 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009, David Hughes wrote: The smartest/sanest thing to do, IMHO, would be to work at migrating to NX-OS, feature-set by feature-set. It's by far the cleanest and best-designed OS platform Cisco have come out with to date. Couldn't agree more. NX-OS looks like a great

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-27 Thread Ryan Hughes
I think they'd like to in the future but the problem still exists that IOS is monolithic based and has a horrible time making good use of SMP, One of the reason they've stepped away from IOS for the Nexus/ASR platforms. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Kevin Graham

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-27 Thread Kevin Graham
problem still exists that IOS is monolithic based and has a horrible time making good use of SMP Agreed. Its particularly curious on the ISR, since its still a software-based platform and not positioned for heavy IGP/EGP workloads. SMP for NX-OS/XE/XR where its just the control-plane is a lot

[c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-27 Thread James Weathersby (jweather)
We're looking at several options for the multi-core CPU. Offloading specific features, management, apps, HA options. We've looked very closely at some of the other attempts to use multi-core processors across Cisco and are trying to learn from their experiences. james

Re: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-27 Thread Church, Charles
] On Behalf Of James Weathersby (jweather) Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:16 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore? We're looking at several options for the multi-core CPU. Offloading specific features, management, apps, HA options. We've looked very closely at some

[c-nsp] ISR G2 multicore?

2009-10-26 Thread Kevin Graham
I was just reading the 3925/3945 announcements and notice they're plugging multicore processors. Given brief and violent life of MPF on the NPE-G1, this seems surprising. Does anyone know what the plans are to actually utilize these? ___ cisco-nsp