Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-25 Thread Scott Keoseyan
I am with you on the Linux approach but for some of my clients I have had good luck with Infoblox appliances as well, especially in enterprise network scenarios, serving both DNS and NTP... Anyone else use these? --Scott On Jun 23, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: On 23/06/2012

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-25 Thread Josh Baird
And guess what the Infoblox appliances run? :) Josh On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Scott Keoseyan sc...@labyrinth.orgwrote: I am with you on the Linux approach but for some of my clients I have had good luck with Infoblox appliances as well, especially in enterprise network scenarios,

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-25 Thread Scott Keoseyan
Lol... yep. But nice friendly gui for those enterprises lacking *nix skillsets. :-) Basically get the same result with a few handy edits to /etc/ntp.conf --Scott On Jun 25, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Josh Baird wrote: And guess what the Infoblox appliances run? :) Josh On Mon, Jun 25, 2012

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-25 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-06-25 10:50 -0400), Josh Baird wrote: And guess what the Infoblox appliances run? :) Earlier poster also wondered why waste money on NTP appliance'. Some of these appliances have hardware timestamping, which will significantly increase accuracy, if your network is low-jitter and

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-25 Thread James Slepicka (c-nsp)
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 11:23 AM To: Josh Baird Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers Or you can ask the it guys to use a windows server... Eg: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816042 On Jun 23, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: It seems like

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-25 Thread Erik Soosalu
the issues. Thanks, Erik -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Saku Ytti Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:24 AM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers On (2012-06-25 10:50 -0400), Josh Baird

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-25 Thread Jared Mauch
-nsp] NTP Servers Or you can ask the it guys to use a windows server... Eg: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816042 On Jun 23, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: It seems like a waste to spend money on NTP appliances, when you can build an enterprise quality system

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-25 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/25/12 7:50 AM, Josh Baird wrote: And guess what the Infoblox appliances run? :) They run with vendor support. =) You can, of course, DIY fancy NTP server solutions: http://www.febo.com/pages/soekris/index.html

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-23 Thread Josh Baird
It seems like a waste to spend money on NTP appliances, when you can build an enterprise quality system using Linux (for free) in a matter of minutes. We run three, and they have supported over 10k devices with zero problems for over 5 years. It's not like ntpd is very resource intensive. Josh

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-23 Thread Andrew Miehs
On 23/06/2012, at 11:14 PM, Josh Baird wrote: It seems like a waste to spend money on NTP appliances, when you can build an enterprise quality system using Linux (for free) in a matter of minutes. We run three, and they have supported over 10k devices with zero problems for over 5 years.

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-23 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 23/06/2012 14:14, Josh Baird wrote: It seems like a waste to spend money on NTP appliances, when you can build an enterprise quality system using Linux (for free) in a matter of minutes. We run three, and they have supported over 10k devices with zero problems for over 5 years. It's not

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-23 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 23/06/2012 06:38, Andrew Miehs wrote: Agreed - If it were only me, I too would run a couple of boxes, but this is an enterprise site. Unfortunately the team here has little unix know how which is why I am looking for appliances. The plan is that all the network infracture and wireless

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-23 Thread alan buxey
Hi, Agreed - but there are also the political issues to consider - server (hosting team) vs. appliance (network team). I work in a network team. and we run servers - DNS, DHCP, NTP, RADIUS, SYSLOG, SNMP - basically all the network related things and bits that ensure a client can use the

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-23 Thread Andrew Miehs
On 24/06/2012, at 12:04 AM, alan buxey wrote: Agreed - but there are also the political issues to consider - server (hosting team) vs. appliance (network team). I work in a network team. and we run servers - DNS, DHCP, NTP, RADIUS, SYSLOG, SNMP - basically all the network related things

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-23 Thread Chuck Church
-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] NTP Servers Hi Guys Perhaps a little off topic - Are any of you using NTP appliances? I am in an enterprise environment. We have also considered using a couple of my 6500s but my gut tells me that is not a good thing (tm). We will be getting a stratum 1 feed

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-23 Thread Peter Lothberg
ability to take a GSM clock source. GSM don't knew what time it is. CDMA does repeat GPS time. -P ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-23 Thread Jared Mauch
Or you can ask the it guys to use a windows server... Eg: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816042 On Jun 23, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: It seems like a waste to spend money on NTP appliances, when you can build an enterprise quality system using Linux (for free) in

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-23 Thread Alan Buxey
Hi, If that was the case then I'd have to provide mgmt the case, costs, best practice etc for things to change ;) alan ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-23 Thread Mack McBride
. Mack - Original Message - From: Nick Hilliard [mailto:n...@foobar.org] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 06:55 AM To: Andrew Miehs and...@2sheds.de Cc: Mack McBride; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers On 23/06/2012 06:38, Andrew Miehs wrote

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-23 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 23/06/2012 22:12, Mack McBride wrote: It doesn't take much know how to run a linux server for ntp. much is a relative thing. If running linux isn't your forte, then debugging peculiar problems with linux is going to look like rocket science. Again, without knowing anything more about this

[c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-22 Thread Andrew Miehs
Hi Guys Perhaps a little off topic - Are any of you using NTP appliances? I am in an enterprise environment. We have also considered using a couple of my 6500s but my gut tells me that is not a good thing (tm). We will be getting a stratum 1 feed from a local datacenter provider - and was

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-22 Thread Mick O'Rourke
Hi Andrew, How many clients will associate? And how critical is it? We run a couple of older/retired 1841 as ntp on IOS 15, stratum 2/3 - they don't do anything else but do a good enough job with a few thousand clients. On Jun 23, 2012 9:17 AM, Andrew Miehs and...@2sheds.de wrote: Hi Guys

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-22 Thread Mack McBride
-Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Miehs Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 5:14 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] NTP Servers Hi Guys Perhaps a little off topic - Are any of you using NTP appliances? I

Re: [c-nsp] NTP Servers

2012-06-22 Thread Andrew Miehs
Sent from a mobile device On 23/06/2012, at 15:05, Mack McBride mack.mcbr...@viawest.com wrote: A good linux server will suffice. 6500s have a pretty wimpy CPU. This is from a linux server with a cheap atom board: Agreed - If it were only me, I too would run a couple of boxes, but this