Dear Rob et al.,
By "rose brass" I assume you mean the brass made by Malcolm Rose. I'm
not sure which one you mean, as he appears to have two types: Red brass
(a 90/10 mix of copper and something else, probably mostly zinc) and
"English brass" (a 70/30 mix of ditto).
I do not car
On 21/06/2011 16:03, Claudia Finke wrote:
[1]http://www.finke-family.de/images/Cister.jpeg
Hello everyone, I am new here - my name is Claudia and I'm from
Germany.
I now have the above citter, which is a handmade instrument only used
for the recording of an album. Does anyone
It would be really interesting to hear someone play some of the pieces!!
Stuart
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That's great!
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From: Andrew Hartig cittern2...@theaterofmusic.com
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:43:56 -0800
To: cittern@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [CITTERN] Otley MS - on-line
Dear all,
I am proud to announce that I heard from John H. Robinson today that he
On 18/10/2010 23:05, stelios christodoulou wrote:
I visited this museum in the summer. They have an english guitar by Longman&
Broderip (mentioned in the norwegian language info) that looked very much like
the one in this link:
http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/MUSEUM/ZISTER/0628.htm . The in
You have a very nice sounding cetra, Stuart.
I suppose you remember that Ford cautions about getting a well-fretted
instrument - the Hintz I used
to have had a very flat 7th fret, certainly not something from any
temperament that I've ever heard.
Eventually, I had it it redone.
It's not perio
:
ro...@cetrapublishing.com wrote:
I can suggest two things to look at to resolve intonation issues. First,
have a look at the nut. Do the strings lay in the grooves properly?
It could be that the top of the nut is
curved or that the grooves are not cut properly, so that some or all
of the st
ro...@cetrapublishing.com wrote:
I can suggest two things to look at to resolve intonation issues. First,
have a look at the nut. Do the
strings lay in the grooves properly? It could be that the top of the nut is
curved or that the grooves are
not cut properly, so that some or all of the string
ro...@cetrapublishing.com wrote:
Nice to hear someone else playing Ritter! I think his music is
interesting, but I also think you're short changing Schumann and
Straube. There is actually quite a bit of writing
that accompanies itself even if, on paper, it doesn't appear so. Have
a play thr
> From: Stuart Walsh
>
> Monica Hall has just sent a message to the lute list about the RAM, Robert
> Spencer collection. There are some cittern and English guitar related
> items:
> And
> some illustrations, new to me,
> anyway:
> http://www.ram.ac.uk/emuweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?ir
Read and weep...
Ed Margerum
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Forwarded from the Seventeenth
Sure. Bremner's 'Instructions' has a drawing of a guittar, curiously
with only three double strings and three single basses. Geminiani also
has this image, but his guittar work was also published by Bremner. By
the way, Bremner's son, also called Robert, studied guittar with
Geminian
Also of note for Renaissance cittern-philes is something Doc Rossi
already posted on the cittern Ning site: The Nanki library's copy of
Robinson's New Citharen Lessons is available on-line and contains
unique manuscript additions, probably from the mid-1620s.
[1]http://nanki-ml.dmc.k
David van Ooijen wrote:
Surfacing on this list once in a while: questions about the Nanki
Music Library in Japan. Now they have put some of their books on line:
http://note.dmc.keio.ac.jp/music-library/nanki/
I don't see the mss available yet, but 500 printed works should keep
us happy for a whil
James Tyler wrote:
Hi Stuart,
Highly interesting info about Bland, Marella and Ritter. I looked out my photocopy of the Ritter
"Lessons" which was taken from the late Bob Spencer's Collection. It is a later edition
published by Longman & Broderip (ca. 1770). No mention on the title page of Rit
Hey Stuart,
I had my 7-course guittar built after reading Bland's book years ago.
There is a 7-course Preston in Paris. I use Ritter's tuning for some pieced
as well - it does make a few fingerings a little more logical. Don't forget
that Oswald suggests tuning in G as well, suggesting that the
Hi Stuart,
Highly interesting info about Bland, Marella and Ritter. I looked out my
photocopy of the Ritter "Lessons" which was taken from the late Bob Spencer's
Collection. It is a later edition published by Longman & Broderip (ca. 1770).
No mention on the title page of Ritter's tuning instruc
Damien Delgrossi wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260480812480&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:FR:1123
Envoyé de mon iPhone
How much did it sell for, Damien?
The photos were quite dark and it was hard to see details. It looked
like a nice instrument but was it a made from
Stuart Walsh wrote:
Thomas Thackray (of Skeldergate, York) - 'linen weaver and musician'
(!) published music for the guittar in the 1760s and 1770s. There are
records of him playing with other musicians as far back as 1733 (in
the Assembly Rooms in York) but no record of what instrument he pl
Damien Delgrossi wrote:
Oups, I wanted to watch it again and youtube said : "the use deleted
the video"...
Damien
Thanks for your comments. It really was a bit rough - even for me!
(Especially the first tune, the second was OK enough). I'm uploading a
"Lesson" by Thomas Thackray at the momen
Oups, I wanted to watch it again and youtube said : "the use deleted the
video"...
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From: "Stuart Walsh"
To: "cittern list"
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:11 AM
Subject: [CITTERN] Thomas Thackray
A little bit is known about Thomas Thackray and his life a
Hello Stuart,
Beautiful music. that is the first time I listen Thackray's music and I like
it very much. Congratulations for the interpretation, you're really a great
guittar player!
Thanks again,
Damien
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From: "Stuart Walsh"
To: "cittern list"
Sent: Tuesday
ength
around 70cm
M
--- On Tue, 1/9/09, Stuart Walsh wrote:
From: Stuart Walsh
Subject: [CITTERN] Re: Did Telemann play the cittern?
To: frnor...@online.no
Cc: cittern@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 11:20 PM
Frank Nordberg wrote:
>
Frank Nordberg wrote:
A connection between Telemann and the mandora is news to me though.
Martyn?
Stuart
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Stuart Walsh wrote:
I suppose a cittern is more likely than a scheitolt-type instrument?
Yes and that's why I mentioned the article doesn't credit any source. If
the word "Zither" is used in some source contemporary with or only
slightly later than Telemann himself, it will definitely mean a
Frank Nordberg wrote:
I just stumbled across the Telemann biography at HOASM:
http://www.hoasm.org/XIA/XIATelemann.html
It says:
..
"by the age of 10 he had teamed to play the violin, the flute, the
zither, and keyboard instruments."
..
No sources are quoted.
Does anybody know anything about
Thanks for all the nice comments. I enjoyed playing it again. It really
is the ugliest, most beat-up guittar I've ever seen, but it does sound
magnificent. The whole body rings with sound. Not difficult to be
inspired by it.
Rob --
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Bravo! You're a great 18th Century wire-strung guittar player! andy
r
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Rob MacKillop
<[1]luteplay...@googlemail.com> wrote:
I've just uploaded my first 'guittar', English Guitar,
18th-century
cittern, cetra video!
<[1][2]htt
I've just uploaded my first 'guittar', English Guitar, 18th-century
cittern, cetra video!
<[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW-KR3yRNjU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2E
youtube%2Ecom%2Fuser%2FBalcarresGuy&feature=player_profilepage>
The poor instrument had lain unplayed for a few y
On 24 Aug 2009 18:08, Doc Rossi wrote:
> I hope this means you'll continue to play the guittar more often.
I've no idea. No plans for it. Mainly playing the banjo these
days...hanging out at the ning minstrelbanjo site and the ning
classic-banjo site. I enjoyed playing it again thou
Rob MacKillop wrote:
I've just uploaded my first 'guittar', English Guitar, 18th-century
cittern, cetra video!
<[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW-KR3yRNjU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2E
youtube%2Ecom%2Fuser%2FBalcarresGuy&feature=player_profilepage>
The poor instrument had lain
As we say in my country : Era Ora!!! :-)
Congratulations and thanks for sharing it!
Damien
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From: "Rob MacKillop"
To: "Cittern"
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:40 PM
Subject: [CITTERN] guittar video
I've just uploaded my first 'guittar', English Guitar, 18
Great playing as always, Rob. I hope this means you'll continue to
play the guittar more often.
Doc
On Aug 24, 2009, at 6:40 PM, Rob MacKillop wrote:
I've just uploaded my first 'guittar', English Guitar, 18th-century
cittern, cetra video!
<[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW-KR3yR
Andrew Rutherford wrote:
Here's the quote from Hintz, from the Public Advertiser, Mar 17, 1766:
"that he has, after many Years Study and Application in endeavouring
to bring this favourite Instrument the Guittar (being the first
Inventor) still to a greater perfection in regard to tuning and
Here's the quote from Hintz, from the Public Advertiser, Mar 17, 1766:
"that he has, after many Years Study and Application in endeavouring to
bring this favourite Instrument the Guittar (being the first Inventor)
still to a greater perfection in regard to tuning and keeping the same
Andrew Rutherford wrote:
Re the cittern and the Moravians, Lanie Graf published something in a
recent Moravian Archives journal all about citterns, Moravians and
Frederick Hintz, the furniture maker turned guittar maker. You can
find the relevent (sp?) info on her ning page.
By th
Bravo!
I agree about the "order of difficulty" business. That came from
somebody's doctoral thesis that briefly mentioned this MS...
andy r
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Stuart Walsh <[1]s.wa...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
I'm assuming that the sentence in the intro to Moravia
ing - how do we know about
this?
I looked on the modern church's website but couldn't find a link.
Martyn
)--- On Tue, 18/8/09, Andrew Rutherford <[2]lutewo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
From: Andrew Rutherford <[3]lutewo...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CIT
I'm assuming that the sentence in the intro to Moravian Choralbuch, here:
http://www.cittern.theaterofmusic.com/musicfiles/index.html
"The manuscript and its music may not be reproduced or published without
the consent of the Moravian Archives" refers to the music notation, not
attempts - pun
/8/09, Andrew Rutherford wrote:
From: Andrew Rutherford
Subject: Re: [CITTERN] Re: Moravian Choralbuch [rights]
To: "Martyn Hodgson"
Date: Tuesday, 18 August, 2009, 2:09 AM
Dear folks,
Could be for mandora, the MS doesn't specify the instrument, but the
M
n't find a link.
Martyn
)--- On Tue, 18/8/09, Andrew Rutherford wrote:
From: Andrew Rutherford
Subject: Re: [CITTERN] Re: Moravian Choralbuch [rights]
To: "Martyn Hodgson"
Date: Tuesday, 18 August, 2009, 2:09 AM
Dear folks,
Could be for mandora, the MS
Stuart Walsh wrote:
> I'm not joined up to this ning thing
I can undrstand that. I too prefer the maillist. ;-)
> - and so I'm in the position of
> anyone searching the Internet for information on citterns - the
> information is hidden. Is the instrument in the ning photo (and,
> presumably in
Frank Nordberg wrote:
I have kept the post where Andrew R. first brught up the Moravian ms.
He said:
> There is a book of "chorales" in tablature from c.1750 in the Moravian
> Archives in Bethlehem PA, that may be for cittern.
In other words, he wasn't at that time absolutely sure what instrume
Stuart Walsh wrote:
> I haven't seen many mandora tablatures but I agree that this Moravian
> tablature looks very similar. Couldn't that be just the tablature
> style of the time and place - whatever the instrument?
Probably. I can't see any reason why tablature notation style would
differ bet
is a facsimile of one page of the tablature on page 6.
*http://tinyurl.com/mbf5ex
*
--- On Sun, 16/8/09, Andrew Hartig
wrote:
From: Andrew Hartig
Subject: [CITTERN] Re: Moravian Choralbuch [rights]
To: cittern@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Sunday, 16 August, 2009, 7:
ning from the 1790s. And there is a
facsimile of one page of the tablature on page 6.
*http://tinyurl.com/mbf5ex
*
--- On Sun, 16/8/09, Andrew Hartig
wrote:
From: Andrew Hartig
Subject: [CITTERN] Re: Moravian Choralbuch [rights]
To: cittern@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Sunday
/8/09, Andrew Hartig
wrote:
From: Andrew Hartig
Subject: [CITTERN] Re: Moravian Choralbuch [rights]
To: cittern@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Sunday, 16 August, 2009, 7:51 PM
I will need to check with Lanie Graf about the rights for
performance.
I think it may be
Andrew Hartig"
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:42 PM
Subject: [CITTERN] Re: Moravian Choralbuch
Stuart Walsh wrote:
Andrew Hartig wrote:
Dear all,
Some time back Andy Rutherford had told us about a manuscript book
(BMB4) in the Moravian Arch
Andrew Hartig wrote:
Dear all,
Some time back Andy Rutherford had told us about a manuscript book
(BMB4) in the Moravian Archives of Bethlehem, PA (USA) for 6-course
cittern, tuned GCEgbe. Andy managed to get over there to take some
photos, and after quite a few emails with the folks at the M
"Andrew Hartig"
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:42 PM
Subject: [CITTERN] Re: Moravian Choralbuch
Stuart Walsh wrote:
Andrew Hartig wrote:
Dear all,
Some time back Andy Rutherford had told us about a manuscript book
(BMB4) in the Moravian Archives of Bethlehem, PA (USA) for 6
Stuart Walsh wrote:
Andrew Hartig wrote:
Dear all,
Some time back Andy Rutherford had told us about a manuscript book
(BMB4) in the Moravian Archives of Bethlehem, PA (USA) for 6-course
cittern, tuned GCEgbe. Andy managed to get over there to take some
photos, and after quite a few emails wi
Andrew Hartig wrote:
Dear all,
Some time back Andy Rutherford had told us about a manuscript book
(BMB4) in the Moravian Archives of Bethlehem, PA (USA) for 6-course
cittern, tuned GCEgbe. Andy managed to get over there to take some
photos, and after quite a few emails with the folks at the M
Andrew Rutherford wrote:
>I'm trying to find out how much music there is for citterns in this
> tuning.
There doesn't seem to be much known music for Hamburger Cittrinchen in
any tuning.
James Tyler mentioned on the ning group that he's working on compiling
lists of music for various c
Andrew Rutherford wrote:
Dear Cittern Bunch,
A while back I put up a notice about a tablature "Choralbuch" in the
Moravian archives in Bethlehem, PA. It's for an instrument tuned
nominally GCEgbe.
I'm trying to find out how much music there is for citterns in this
tuning. Al
Seems to have an odd bridge, but it is difficult to see it clearly. Is
it original?
No I don't think it's original, and it's quite high so it would be
difficult to play with the little finger planted on the soundboard. But
I can't play that way, anyway.
Seriously, Stuart, it really sound
It's a simple instrument with a repertoire mainly for amateurs - but
it's definitely an instrument with 'issues'. To me, it seems to
combine two opposites: a mechanical instrument like a music box
...and a badly behaved set of bagpipes.
Classic Eeyore commentary. Cheer up,
Nice work, Stuart - I especially enjoyed the Noferi.
Doc
On Jul 27, 2009, at 12:27 AM, Stuart Walsh wrote:
Some attempts at some pieces:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yquqU2Towi0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwcF8u-LqR0&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWiSoQTKk0o&feat
Could this mean something like - 'play well together' or 'play
harmoniously' ?
On Nov 29, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Damien Delgrossi wrote:
fà un bon' accordu
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Hello Peter,
This postcard shows the famous cretan duet Lira-Bulgari or Lira-Laouto,
still popular today. But I agree that the shape of the plucked instrument is
a cittern shape. I don't know if this picture wants to show a cittern, I
don't think so.
But it makes me thinking to a corsican prov
To my knowledge, The Dartmouth list does not support attachments... The
Ning site is a good place for them, and I am always willing and happy to
post them via my cittern site if needed.
-A:
>
>
> Hi Damien,
>
> I hope this works. I attach a photo of a postcard sent me some ten
> years ago from
Hi Damien,
I hope this works. I attach a photo of a postcard sent me some ten
years ago from Crete by Patrick Delaval. It seems to be evidence that
citterns were at least still a folk-memory, even if not still in use.
Best wishes,
Peter
On 28 Nov 2008, at 20:13, Damien Delgrossi wrote:
> De
Hi Damien,
there is a considerable body of literature from venetian Crete, especially
theatre plays but also poems. Most of it got printed in Venice back in the 17th
century and there are modern editions around as these texts are still
appreciated. I can't remember of the top off my head of any
Thanks Frank and Stuart for all the info on Bellman, Storm, etc.
On Nov 16, 2008, at 6:46 AM, Frank Nordberg wrote:
Now it's getting really messy. The sixth course in the tuning
charts are
not slashed which is how the *seventh* course are notated in the
fretting examples on the same page. Th
(did Rob mentions this instrument sometime?)
I don't think so...which doesn't mean I didn't...can't remember what I
had for breakfast this morning...getting old...
Rob (I think)
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Frank Nordberg wrote:
I got a reply from Britta Peterson at the Stockholm Stadmuseum. The
reason why she was unable to answer right away turned out to be that
the musueum don't actually own the cittern. They have it for a long
time from another museum (the Swedish Historical Museum) and was
Stuart Walsh wrote:
> A very interesting thread. Just expressing a few doubts here!
Indeed. Hope everybody agrees, cause this may go on for a while. ;-)
> It would be really interesting to see some scans of the chorales form
> the Moravian Archives.
Me too. That would be really helpful.
> Mayb
A very interesting thread. Just expressing a few doubts here!
The Moravian Archives in Betlehem, PA. They have a c. 1750 book with
chorales in tablature for that tuning and also a lute-cittern from the
same time period. Andrew Rutherford posted a message about it on this
group about a month
Stuart Walsh wrote:
Just to be absolutely clear about this connection - what was it that
linked the GCEGBE tuning with this lute-bellied cittern? (I've literally
lost the thread on this one!)
The Moravian Archives in Betlehem, PA. They have a c. 1750 book with
chorales in tablature for that
Frank Nordberg wrote:
Starting yet another thread on this topic... ;-)
I've had a closer look at Bellman's cittern and also re-read Michel's
article on the Hamburger citrinchen and here is what I've found so far:
1. Tuning
The "Moravian" GCEGBE tuning Andrew Rutherford asked about, is
mentio
Mjos & Larson wrote:
>> Secondly, you guys are a tough audience!
>
> My apologies for that comment -- I must have been feeling vulnerable
> the day I wrote it.
No need to apologise to me.
If anything I should apologise to you. I got Fichte's triad
(thesis+antithesis=synthesis) so well drumm
Secondly, you guys are a tough audience! !
My apologies for that comment -- I must have been feeling vulnerable
the day I wrote it.
I have appreciated the feedback, ideas, debate, and suggestions made
both on- and off-list.
-- Rocky
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Thanks for posting the sound file, Stuart. Nicely played!
I thought the first section has some similarities to Van Eyck's "Wat
zalmen op den avond doen".
Ruth van Braak Griffioen list a number of cognates, including German
versions (Was wölln wir auf den Abend thun). Lute versions in German
Frank,
First of all, thank you for sharing the Ms pages and writing posting
the background information on instruments and suggestiion that the
Ms. could be viewed as part of the "Danish" or "German" tradition.
Secondly, you guys are a tough audience! !
I started this post a few days ago so
Stuart Walsh wrote:
I wonder if the instrument was some kind of metal-strung waldzither or a
gut-strung something like this:
It's hard to say for sure but the latter seems marginally more likely.
Frank Nordberg
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Stuart Walsh wrote:
I've been hunting through 19^th-century Scottish newspapers, and
found
the following interesting snippet:
LONDON TUESDAY, MAY 15, 1849
The Prussian Minister and Madame Bunsen entertained last Friday at
dinner the Duchess of Sutherland, the Duke and Duchess
I've been hunting through 19^th-century Scottish newspapers, and found
the following interesting snippet:
LONDON TUESDAY, MAY 15, 1849
The Prussian Minister and Madame Bunsen entertained last Friday at
dinner the Duchess of Sutherland, the Duke and Duchess of Argyle, the
Mar
Stuart Walsh wrote:
> Frank, it did appear on the vihuela list.
Good. Apparently neither your original post nor my reply appeared on the
cittern list though, so I suppose everybody here are a bit confused what
it's all about right now. ;-)
Quick summary: After I mentioned the Storm ms. here
final attempt to send
Frank Nordberg wrote:
(Rocky and Stuart: I don't suppose this message will appear on the
vihuela list since I'm not s***ed to it. If so, could one of you
forward it to the list? - If you think it's interesting enough that is.)
Frank, it did appear on the vihuela
Hello,
I don't find any video featuring cittern music.
Damien
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Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:54 PM
Subject: [CITTERN] Further from Ferries ...
Another three videos up of Gordon Ferries inc
Many thanks Stuart,
I had already searched the BL catalogue but thank you. I do have the score and
I can of course make my own arrangement for the 'English' guitar but wanted to
see the contemporary arrangement which was published and, I believe, extant if
not catalogued, to compare with Fiske
Martyn Hodgson wrote:
Could anyone kindly let me have copies of contemporary arrangements (ie c 1772)
for 'English' guitar of music from 'The Brickdust Man' by Charles Dibdin (1745
- 1814). Preferably facsimile but anything welcome!
Martyn Hodgson
A quick glance at the BL's online catal
>> Frank Nordberg wrote:
>
>> Very interesting Frank. I remember you referring to the Peter Bang MS,
>> which turned out to be for a viol rather than a cittern. (By the way, did
>> that MS have a date?)
>
> The Bang manuscript has been dated to 1679 but I don't think anybody
> seriously believes
Stuart Walsh wrote:
Frank Nordberg wrote:
Very interesting Frank. I remember you referring to the Peter Bang MS,
which turned out to be for a viol rather than a cittern. (By the way,
did that MS have a date?)
The Bang manuscript has been dated to 1679 but I don't think anybody
seriously be
Nothing in Kremberg corresponds to this tuning.
On Sep 27, 2008, at 12:40 AM, Andrew Rutherford wrote:
Hello citternophiles,
There is a book of "chorales" in tablature from c.1750 in the Moravian
Archives in Bethlehem PA, that may be for cittern. The tuning is
GCEGBE. Is that right for tha
Frank Nordberg wrote:
Andrew Rutherford wrote:
> The tuning is GCEGBE. Is that right for that time?
It's not *exactly* that tuning but a late 18th C. Norwegian cittern
manuscript, known as the Edvard Storm Ms., gives a tuning with the
same intervals, only one step lower:
f bb d' f' a' d''
A
Andrew Rutherford wrote:
> The tuning is GCEGBE. Is that right for that time?
It's not *exactly* that tuning but a late 18th C. Norwegian cittern
manuscript, known as the Edvard Storm Ms., gives a tuning with the same
intervals, only one step lower:
f bb d' f' a' d''
Although Storm was Norwe
I think the tuning is similar to one of Kremberg's, near the turn of
the century. I have to check. No doubt Martina will have some info.
doc
On Sep 27, 2008, at 12:40 AM, Andrew Rutherford wrote:
Hello citternophiles,
There is a book of "chorales" in tablature from c.1750 in the
Mor
Damien Delgrossi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just found that ont he site of an atique instrument expert-seller.
> http://www.williampetit.com/mandore/mandore.fr.htm
>
> What do you think?
Looks gorgeous.
But a mandola by Gasparo? Wouldn't that be quite a senstion? One that
requires serious verificati
I can't imagine the price. Fully restored by Sinier & De Ridder who are one
the french best masters of luthery and restoration of France. Their
customers are mostly Cité de la Musique in paris (huge instrument
collection) and the Musée Lascaris of nice...
This cittern of François Louis Pique,
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Subject: [CITTERN] Re: pics of 18th century German cittern and French
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Subject: [CITTERN] Re: pics of 18th century German cittern and French
'theorboed arch-cittern'
Hi all,
A corsican luthier abroad in France, Clermond-Ferrand, has restored an
arch-ci
Hi all,
A corsican luthier abroad in France, Clermond-Ferrand, has restored an
arch-cittern made by renault & Chatelain. There are pics of the instrument
before and after the restoration.
I hope you'll enjoy it,
Damien
http://www.casanova-luthier.com/restaurationframeset.htm
- Origina
Thanks Stuart,
I have written to this museum one week ago but they didn't answer...
Your link is great. They have an archcittern for sale and restored. Made by
pique it is very rare! I would be curious to know the (very high I imagine)
price!
Bye
Damien
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Damien Delgrossi wrote:
Hi all,
A french cistre is in the workshop of an old instrument seller called
Rodolphe Delcroix, in Nice, France.
Looks playable but expensive! :-)
http://www.musicantic.eu/instruments-a-cordes-pincees/cistres/cistre-francais-xviii-siecle_788_fr_D.html
Damien
I have it from two sources now - thanks guys.
On Aug 23, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Andrew Hartig wrote:
Yep. Consider it done.
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At 06:13 AM 8/23/2008, Doc Rossi wrote:
Has anyone got a copy of Playford's Greensleeves from Musicks Delight
in tablature or notation they could send me? Even MIDI w
Yep. Consider it done.
-A:
At 06:13 AM 8/23/2008, Doc Rossi wrote:
>Has anyone got a copy of Playford's Greensleeves from Musicks Delight
>in tablature or notation they could send me? Even MIDI would do.
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>Thanks - Doc
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Hi Stuart,
I don't have yet his album, but I don't know if he plays french cistre music
or arrangement of swedish accompagnied by the cistre. Anyway he tunes it
E-A-D-E-A-C-E (not C#), so he uses the french tuning.
He also uses cistre for p^laying Bellman's music.
Regards,
Damien
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Hi all,
New member here, I play classical guitar but came across some english guitar related info and was kindly redirected here by Rob McKillop.
What's the evidence on the english guitar being popular in the Netherlands in
the 1770s and/or being used for song accompaniment?
J.Swarts (
Hi All,
Jakob Lindberg and Anna Emillson have recorded an album featuring a
french cistre built by Deleplanque in 1776.
That's the only one album I know featuring 18th century cistre, and
the sound is BELLISSIMO.
http://www.annaemilsson.com/ENG/duobiografi.html
Enjoy summer,
Damien
Hi Stuart,
That is what I thought, it is probably a mistake of Carpentier about the
english guitar. But I don't understand well the tuning you write, you mean
it is french? The cistre is tuned : E-A-D-E-a-c#-e for a seven course
cistre. I don't know the tuning you write Stuart, but in France L
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