Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-10-01 Thread Brian Morrison
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:17:56 +0100 (BST) G.W. Haywood wrote: > In a 'PS' footnote in my original post I merely asked another poster > to be considerate to me, and not to include my email address in the > body of his message. I've now changed my reply template to accommodate you, I will add that I

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-25 Thread Joel Esler
On Sep 25, 2012, at 6:17 AM, G.W. Haywood wrote: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012, Al Varnell wrote: > >> ... my understanding of what he's asking now is that the list >> server remove any addresses that their client includes. > > For the sake of clarity, I did not ask that. I also did not ask for > policy

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-25 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Tue, 25 Sep 2012, Al Varnell wrote: ... my understanding of what he's asking now is that the list server remove any addresses that their client includes. For the sake of clarity, I did not ask that. I also did not ask for policy changes at Sourcefire, nor did I ask anyone to for

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-24 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi-- On Sep 24, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Al Varnell wrote: [ ... ] > I agree that trying to force people to do so would be a loosing battle and > not worth the effort. I subscribe to many lists and must say that this is > the first time I've read such a request. But my understanding of what he's > ask

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-24 Thread Al Varnell
On 9/24/12 8:41 AM, "Joel Esler" wrote: > On Sep 24, 2012, at 7:23 AM, G.W. Haywood wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: >> >>> Maybe you are talking about something I'm not aware of. >> >> This is standard mailing list etiquette going back, I guess, almost a >>

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-24 Thread Joel Esler
On Sep 24, 2012, at 7:23 AM, G.W. Haywood wrote: > Hi there, > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: > >> Maybe you are talking about something I'm not aware of. > > This is standard mailing list etiquette going back, I guess, almost a > couple of decades and I'm both surprised and disappoi

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-24 Thread G.W. Haywood
B0;261;0cHi there, On Mon, 24 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: My point being that we have a bug open on it, we're working on it, so continuing trying to argue the point is pointless. ... Ah, yes, I think we are at crossed purposes here. I'm not trying to convince you to act on the enhancement r

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-24 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Mon, 24 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: Maybe you are talking about something I'm not aware of. This is standard mailing list etiquette going back, I guess, almost a couple of decades and I'm both surprised and disappointed to have to go over it here. But by the pure fact that you

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-23 Thread Benny Pedersen
Joel Esler skrev den 23-09-2012 17:59: So maybe we are confused about what you are talking about, or perhaps you are. is default reply template in Apple Mail to blame ? just becurse its common it not the same as its common good idear dont post my email with Apple Mail respect that i dont do

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-23 Thread Joel Esler
On Sep 22, 2012, at 9:50 AM, G.W. Haywood wrote: > Mr. Esler's assertion that this is a pedantic argument, given his > position, bothers me a little. My point being that we have a bug open on it, we're working on it, so continuing trying to argue the point is pointless. We're already working o

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-23 Thread Joel Esler
On Sep 23, 2012, at 6:47 AM, G.W. Haywood wrote: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012, Brian Morrison wrote: > >> On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:50:10 +0100 (BST) G.W. Haywood wrote: >> >>> PS Please don't mail somebody's email address to the whole world. >> >> It's in the list headers, it's already been made public.

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-23 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hello again, On Sun, 23 Sep 2012, Brian Morrison wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:50:10 +0100 (BST) G.W. Haywood wrote: PS Please don't mail somebody's email address to the whole world. It's in the list headers, it's already been made public... Flame wars aren't going to get us anywhere. I

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-22 Thread Brian Morrison
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:02:40 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: > if you post your own i will reply with it non hidded Be my guest, my email address has been public for many years without problems. -- Brian Morrison "I am not young enough to know everything"

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-22 Thread Benny Pedersen
Brian Morrison skrev den 2012-09-22 16:52: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:50:10 +0100 (BST) "G.W. Haywood" wrote: PS Please don't mail somebody's email address to the whole world. It's in the list headers, it's already been made public on the list and in the archives. bots dont read headers, so i

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-22 Thread Brian Morrison
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:50:10 +0100 (BST) "G.W. Haywood" wrote: > PS Please don't mail somebody's email address to the whole world. It's in the list headers, it's already been made public on the list and in the archives. -- Brian Morrison "I am not young enough to know everyth

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-22 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hello again, On Sat, 22 Sep 2012, Brian Morrison wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:31:59 +0100 (BST) "G.W. Haywood" wrote: If a compiler is not there it is *impossible* for it to do anything, and that statement does not rely on your opinion. It isn't Ken Thompson's opinion, it isn't necessary f

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-21 Thread Joel Esler
As pedantic as this argument is, I understand both sides of the argument. We have a bug in the system now, and we'll start triaging what it would take to make that happen. Thanks. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Brian Morrison wrote: > On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:31:59 +0100 (BST) > "G.W. Haywood

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-21 Thread Brian Morrison
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:31:59 +0100 (BST) "G.W. Haywood" wrote: > If a compiler is not there it is *impossible* for it to do anything, > and that statement does not rely on your opinion. It isn't Ken Thompson's opinion, it isn't necessary for a compiler to exist for malicious acts to be possible.

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-21 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Fri, 21 Sep 2012, Benny Pedersen wrote: Den 2012-09-20 12:42, G.W. Haywood skrev: option which disables the bytecode interpreter. ... it can be disabled in freshclam.conf No, that disables loading bytecode. The interpreter is still there. so this is a problem ? Yes. witho

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
Den 2012-09-20 12:42, G.W. Haywood skrev: option which disables the bytecode interpreter. ... it can be disabled in freshclam.conf No, that disables loading bytecode. The interpreter is still there. so this is a problem ? without signatures it does nothing imho ___

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-20 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Benny Pedersen wrote: Den 2012-09-19 13:21, G.W. Haywood skrev: option which disables the bytecode interpreter. ... it can be disabled in freshclam.conf No, that disables loading bytecode. The interpreter is still there. -- 73, Ged. __

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-20 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: On Sep 19, 2012, at 7:21 AM, G.W. Haywood wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: ... I'm unhappy with the bytecode interpreter ... Okay, have you opened a feature request bug in our bugzilla tracking system so we can get it tagged for

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-19 Thread Joel Esler
On Sep 19, 2012, at 7:21 AM, G.W. Haywood wrote: > Hi there, > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: > >> In order for us to get some accurate statistics about what you all >> are seeing out there, in the field, we need as many people as >> possible to "opt-in" to some statistics gathering fe

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
Den 2012-09-19 13:21, G.W. Haywood skrev: I'd be happy to get up to date and let you have some *interesting* statistics if you could just see your way to including a compile-time option which disables the bytecode interpreter. Mr. Skoll and I asked about this over two years ago: it can be d

[clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-19 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: In order for us to get some accurate statistics about what you all are seeing out there, in the field, we need as many people as possible to "opt-in" to some statistics gathering features that we have built into the code base. I'd be happy to o