Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-09 Thread Wouter Miltenburg
Hi all, Was subscribed to this mailing list for some time and didn't respond to it that much, but this topic really got my attention. What rubbish... ClamAV always lags behind the commercial vendors in any comparative you wish to mention. The majority of well established vendors will also do

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-07 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Mon, 2014-10-06 at 15:21 +0100, Tim Smith wrote: but call paid prebuildt software always better is not correct, but mostly just marketing What rubbish... ClamAV always lags behind the commercial vendors in any comparative you wish to mention. The majority of well established vendors

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-07 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Mon 06/Oct/2014 15:37:34 +0200 Tim Smith wrote: are you really trying to compare response times from PAID solutions to the free/community maintained ones Of course not, the paid solutions will always be better. Careful betting on that... It's the famous-last-words sort of phrase.

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Joel Esler (jesler)
On Oct 3, 2014, at 5:12 PM, Dennis Peterson denni...@inetnw.com wrote: On 10/3/14 8:10:24AM, Mark Allan wrote: On 3 Oct 2014, at 03:39 pm, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday 03 October 2014 07:19:13 Tim Smith did opine Over the last 24-48 hours, I submitted a number of email

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Ed Christiansen MS
exactly On 10/3/2014 4:54 PM, Leonardo Rodrigues wrote: On 03/10/14 08:19, Tim Smith wrote: All of the commercial vendors I submitted the samples to had analysed and created samples in timeframes ranging from hours to one day. At this rate I'm going to be dumping ClamAV from my systems and

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Joel Esler (jesler)
On Oct 3, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Dennis Peterson denni...@inetnw.com wrote: On 10/3/14 2:11:15PM, Charles Swiger wrote: On Oct 3, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Leonardo Rodrigues leolis...@solutti.com.br wrote: On 03/10/14 08:19, Tim Smith wrote: All of the commercial vendors I submitted the samples to

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Tim Smith
Gene, Perhaps you should consider submitted them in a compressed file format that is NOT proprietary to apple and which carries a per seat license fee? How about ***YOU*** consider the fact that I was merely submitting a RAR file becasue that was the exact file that was received in my email !

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Tim Smith
are you really trying to compare response times from PAID sollutions to the free/community maintened ones Of course not, the paid solutions will always be better. But three days to get some definitions pushed out for a zero-day is a bit on the slow side, you must agree !

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Benny Pedersen
On October 6, 2014 3:37:34 PM Tim Smith randomd...@gmail.com wrote: are you really trying to compare response times from PAID sollutions to the free/community maintened ones ? Of course not, the paid solutions will always be better. Dream on, my commodore 64 is the best 8bit computer ever

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Paul Smith
On 06/10/2014 14:37, Tim Smith wrote: are you really trying to compare response times from PAID sollutions to the free/community maintened ones Of course not, the paid solutions will always be better. But three days to get some definitions pushed out for a zero-day is a bit on the slow

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Shawn Webb
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Tim Smith randomd...@gmail.com wrote: are you really trying to compare response times from PAID sollutions to the free/community maintened ones Of course not, the paid solutions will always be better. But three days to get some definitions pushed out

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Alain Zidouemba
If you think it needs to be quicker, then maybe you could volunteer your time to help with the analysis (I'm not sure how you'd go about this) http://blog.clamav.net/2014/02/introducing-clamav-community-signatures.html - Alain ___ Help us build a

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Tim Smith
but call paid prebuildt software always better is not correct, but mostly just marketing What rubbish... ClamAV always lags behind the commercial vendors in any comparative you wish to mention. The majority of well established vendors will also do a better job of detecting and pushing out

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Joel Esler (jesler)
On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Tim Smith randomd...@gmail.com wrote: but call paid prebuildt software always better is not correct, but mostly just marketing What rubbish... ClamAV always lags behind the commercial vendors in any comparative you wish to mention. The majority of well

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Paul Smith
On 06/10/2014 15:21, Tim Smith wrote: but call paid prebuildt software always better is not correct, but mostly just marketing What rubbish... ClamAV always lags behind the commercial vendors in any comparative you wish to mention. Not if I want to make my own signatures... It also beats

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Webmaster
Le lundi 6 octobre 2014, 10:05:11 Alain Zidouemba a écrit : If you think it needs to be quicker, then maybe you could volunteer your time to help with the analysis (I'm not sure how you'd go about this) Or use this :

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Benny Pedersen
On October 6, 2014 4:21:58 PM Tim Smith randomd...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously, why should I mess around with creating virus signatures, its a waste of my time. Well sayed, this maillist here is not waste of your time, can you pay back now ? ___

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Vincent Fox
On 10/06/2014 08:32 AM, Webmaster wrote: Le lundi 6 octobre 2014, 10:05:11 Alain Zidouemba a écrit : If you think it needs to be quicker, then maybe you could volunteer your time to help with the analysis (I'm not sure how you'd go about this) Or use this :

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Dennis Peterson
On 10/6/14 7:21 AM, Tim Smith wrote: Seriously, why should I mess around with creating virus signatures, its a waste of my time. Because that is the norm for community-supported products and because nobody but you is ultimately responsible for protecting your systems from malware. dp

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-06 Thread Webmaster
Hi, Speaking of SecuriteInfo, is the High Risk label deserved for the spam_marketing signatures? Have used all the others in the Securite list but that one. Yes, spam_marketing.ndb has high level of false positive. Why ? Because it focuses french spam/marketing/private selling/special

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-04 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi Steve, On Sat, 4 Oct 2014, Steve Basford wrote: Slightly off topic, does anyone have a folder full of saved malware zips/rars etc. they have kept over the past xxx months, if so can U contact me off-list... I don't, exactly, but I do keep records and do I look at them. Firstly I'm only

[clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-03 Thread Tim Smith
Hi, Over the last 24-48 hours, I submitted a number of email attachments. RAR files that contained viruses. Running one or two of them through VirusTotal today, I see ClamAV have *STILL* not managed to produce virus definitions for them ! All of the commercial vendors I submitted the samples to

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-03 Thread Joel Esler (jesler)
On Oct 3, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Tim Smith randomd...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Over the last 24-48 hours, I submitted a number of email attachments. RAR files that contained viruses. Running one or two of them through VirusTotal today, I see ClamAV have *STILL* not managed to produce virus

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-03 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues
On 03/10/14 08:19, Tim Smith wrote: All of the commercial vendors I submitted the samples to had analysed and created samples in timeframes ranging from hours to one day. At this rate I'm going to be dumping ClamAV from my systems and subscribing to a service from a commercial vendor .

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-03 Thread Charles Swiger
On Oct 3, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Leonardo Rodrigues leolis...@solutti.com.br wrote: On 03/10/14 08:19, Tim Smith wrote: All of the commercial vendors I submitted the samples to had analysed and created samples in timeframes ranging from hours to one day. At this rate I'm going to be dumping

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-03 Thread Dennis Peterson
On 10/3/14 8:10:24AM, Mark Allan wrote: On 3 Oct 2014, at 03:39 pm, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday 03 October 2014 07:19:13 Tim Smith did opine Over the last 24-48 hours, I submitted a number of email attachments. RAR files that contained viruses. Running one or two of them

Re: [clamav-users] Why are the ClamAV team so slow at creating signatures ?

2014-10-03 Thread Dennis Peterson
On 10/3/14 2:11:15PM, Charles Swiger wrote: On Oct 3, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Leonardo Rodrigues leolis...@solutti.com.br wrote: On 03/10/14 08:19, Tim Smith wrote: All of the commercial vendors I submitted the samples to had analysed and created samples in timeframes ranging from hours to one day.