l, or distributed with a (copyright) licence which
is a contract. At that point no generalisations like above can be made
without actually looking and interpreting that contract.
I'm going to trust the FSF on this one, and not a Sun engineer which implies
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parts we had to debug a lot to get it to work.
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xample.
When the processing-power becomes available (developer.classpath.org is
probably best) we intend to move this there and put online the results in
various easy to parse ways.
See also this thread (on the mauve mailinglist)
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/mauve-discuss/2005-q1/msg00020.html
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On Thursday 25 March 2004 19:44, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> Writing tests and documentation is fine. And really appreciated!
...
> If you would like to help with testing then please check out the Mauve
> project which we use for much of our testing purpose
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I think that there are 2 distinct user groups for the 'mauve' tool. One is
the JVM developers which need to use the lowest common dominator in Java
implementations. So it runs on a minimal Java implementation.
The other group is where I find myself
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> > > > Here, `cal' is a local variable and YEAR is a static field in
> > > > Calendar. This is valid code, but I find it somewhat confusing;
> the > > > stuff before "." is evaluated for side eff
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> Tom Tromey wrote:
> >>>From http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/jcp/beta1/index.html#java.lang:
> >>>"In this release, the sharing between String and StringBuffer has
> >>> been eliminated."
> >>>
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> Tom Tromey wrote:
> I also wonder if the following implementation would be more efficient.
> In the common case, StringBuffer/StringBuilder is used for appends, and
> then converted to a String jus
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I'd really like to see my stuff committed, or commented on if just
committing is unacceptable.
Are there any people actually maintaining mauve? Nobody commented on the
fixed needed for the website either.
In short who is the core maintainer for mau
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Thats a hack; its dirty and its non-intuitive. I'd advice against that.
What about having a source formatter that checks this? A make check seems
like a good candidate to report warnings like these.
On Friday 09 April 2004 15:49, Eric Blake wrote:
>
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CVS is your friend; just type a cvs diff..
something like:
cvs diff -D "08 apr 2004" -D "09 apr 2004" | less
in the root.
On Saturday 10 April 2004 14:40, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 22:36, Michael Koch wrote:
> > With
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> > > I'd really like to see my stuff committed, or commented on if just
> > > committing is unacceptable.
...
> I was intending to do it at the start of this week, sorry.
Its next week now; so yo
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> Hi Sascha,
>
> Yes, I know :) I couldn't decide whether it was a good idea to
> slavishly follow Sun's options or not. The -X (as you're obviously
> aware) means "non-standard options", and inclu
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> Thomas> The opinion that everything should look as much the same as
> Thomas> possible seems a bit naive (to me personally) in that I doubt
> Thomas> any JVM could ever approach 100% compatibility wit
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Just FYI: the Java standard is to use 'src'.
Using a source dir in Eclipse (I have been told) is pretty darn hard, it
expects 'src' instead.
Mauve also has it as their 'standard expected dir'.
On Thursday 22 April 2004 13:52, Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
>
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> Thomas Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Just FYI: the Java standard is to use 'src'.
> > Using a source dir in Eclipse (I have been told) is pretty darn har
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I personally don't use eclipse; but I've been told the new versions don't
support the old config files.
Next to that; should there not be an ant file (build.xml)? That makes
importing a breeze and is a lot more standard (i.e. not eclipse minded)
I s
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> So applying this logic, there should be no VMFile class because the
> native methods of File.java are all implementable in a "normal"
> Classpath-supplied shared library and are not VM-specific.
J
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Stumbling upon a post[1] where the first thing the poster says is " I do
English not well so please don't laugh at me." made me think that javadoc
translations are something that would be a VERY good idea.
Anyone here that knows of such efforts? Is
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> Should one aim at reproducing the Sun implementation, or at being
> a 'correct' one?
It is my understanding that we implement the spec; so bugs in Suns code are
not relevant information for us.
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> Jeff> (What about Mauve? Much of Eclipse's usefulness for us comes from
> Jeff> interactively running the test suite so we get a very quick
> Jeff> edit/compile/test/debug cycle. But eclipse only
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> The Hacker's Guide would appear to be just that:
>
> http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/docs/hacking.html
[...]
> If there are issues not covered here, you should
> raise them on the list so
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Since you asked :)
On Monday 24 May 2004 20:30, Andrew John Hughes wrote:
> If there are issues not covered here, you should
> raise them on the list so they can be added.
What is missing is a guide or download that makes it possible for JAVA
prog
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> Given the
> length of time that the Free Java projects have now been active, it
> amazes me that so little consideration is given to alternate VMs and
> compilers by the Java community, espec
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> > Another problem I noticed -- as soon
> > as a toolkit is instantiated, the code doesn't exit anymore,
> > presumably because some thread is hanging on -- even something as
> > simple as ge
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> > since I still can't apt-get it, its not on my radar. (I'm wondering
> > how many distro's ship kaffe.)
>
> Kaffe is in Debian stable and unstable
Hmm, I use testing..
> So, Ant simulates
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> > footnote; I compiled Mauve some weeks ago only to find out that on
> > suns-javac it did not compile. The problem was an
> > illegal-code-construct. This tells me that jikes still is not
> > mature
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> AFAIK, Java apps. should die when all non-daemon
>
> > threads have stopped (i.e. the GC can still be running, as its a
> > daemon).
>
> Right, but we can't make all default threads daemons, or
l as an absolute
path.
so the relative paths come out correctly:
foo/bar.java -> file:///home/zander/foo/bar.java
foo/../foo/bar.java -> file:///home/zander/foo/bar.java
To continue the little code example:
> if(!path.startsWith("/"))
> path = "/" + path;
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> Hello,
>
> Jeroen Frijters wrote:
> > "file:/c:/foo.txt"
>
> That should be "file:///c:/foo.txt" (see RFC1738), shouldn't it?
Yes, notice the 3 slashes; since the host part in the
file:///
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> > Also, does anyone have any idea as to why Mauve only seems to test
> > java.io and java.net when I run make check? Using ant, I can get it
> > to compile all the tests but it segfaults in
> >
inside the synchronized
block, but if I do that then the frame is properly displayed, but never
returns. Putting a System.exit(); before the "try {" line made me sure it
really never returns.
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to do with threading..
A better solution would be have the complete implementation of append() and
toString() in a synchronized block on a lock object.
So:
private final Object lock = new Object();
public String toString() {
synchronized(lock) { /* do stuff here */ }
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On Friday 17 December 2004 15:09, Jeroen Frijters wrote:
> Thomas Zander wrote:
> > Interresting concept;
> > several bugs:
> > 1) doing an aquire can return a null; meaning the toString()
> > can cause nullpointer exceptions.
>
> Only if you use it co
y 'random' synchornized block should make it fail? I
find that odd.. Can people try on other jvms then the jamvm 1.21? This
does not look like a java-level bug to me. (But I could be completely
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we therefore have a deadlock.
>
> It is clearly not a bug in JamVM. Perhaps the tree lock should be
> released on calling the child paint method (taking into account
> possible changes to the component list on return)? I am undecided as
> to whether the testcase itself is correct.
ully correct, and will (probably) run correctly on Suns JVM,
but fails on another.
Lets call the former a broken, and the latter a failing test, please :)
Mauve is not suppost to hold _any_ broken tests, right?
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misunderstand the conversation here? Or is this a much easier way to
go?
I'm willing to put up a jar somewhere (can I scp it to a red-hat server?)
since I seem to be one of the few who has Suns JVM(s) and ant installed :)
jar: http://members.home.nl/zander/alltests.jar (1mb)
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> lets write a test-runner that automatically creates one jar file (I just
> finished doing so, its 1Mb) with all tests from java.* and javax.* and
> then places that on a server, with the test-run-results from a couple of
> S
I know; the mauve testsuite is meant to be a general-all-jvm-tests
suite. Currently I skip the BinaryCompatibility test, it failed to get it
compiling some time ago.
The rest is compiled in one go on Suns-JVM1.5 and takes a whopping 46
seconds :-) I don't think the compile would be any ea
On Thursday 30 December 2004 08:58, you wrote:
> Thomas Zander wrote:
> > This brings the running of mauve back to one 'java -jar' and
> > then just following instructions. (that 'java' is just an
> > example; it should work on any JVM)
> > here
I'm not native English; but I'm pretty sure that its 'a portable look and
feel' and not 'an portable...'.
See attachment.
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===
RCS file: /cvsroot/c
ncvs". It
> should work. The real info on the webpage are missing currently, if
> they were ever there.
See FAQ item 3.5
I do suggest a link/addition to the cvs page, yes :)
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ering directory
`/home/zander/sources/java/classpath/native/jni/gtk-peer'
make[3]: *** No rule to make target `gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GdkFontMetrics.c',
needed by `gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GdkFontMetrics.lo'. Stop.
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On Saturday 12 February 2005 20:05, Thomas Zander wrote:
> Making all in gtk-peer
> make[3]: Entering directory
> `/home/zander/sources/java/classpath/native/jni/gtk-peer' make[3]: *** No
> rule to make target `gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GdkFontMetr
.
Ehm; talking about good defaults, this should be on for anyone using CVS!
Please make sure that feature is always on when I call autogen without any
extra arguments making the _dis_abling of this option the responsibility of
the person who creates the distribution tarballs..
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Ehm; thinking about good defaults, this should be on for anyone using CVS!
Please make sure that feature is always on when I call autogen without any
extra arguments making the _dis_abling of this option the responsibility of
the person who creates the distribution tarballs..
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ooked good.
Updating to -D "13 feb 2005" and the above problems appeared.
I'm using cairo rendering.
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Any idea when this will work again?
If I submitted too many bugreports and you want some time, you could just
say so! :P
On Sunday 13 February 2005 13:43, Thomas Zander wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I updated cvs classpath yesterday and swing painting is quite broken.
> No font is painted
ton of a
> JDialog has no effect?
isShowing() ?
isDisplayable()?
Note that you need a SecurityManager that forbids exit if you want to test
the EXIT_ON_CLOSE. Not worth it IMO.
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For example; even a replacement Graphics object
http://www.jibble.org/epsgraphics/
to write eps files extends Graphics2D...
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cases where people are blindly casting.
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Ehm..
0.14 again? [1]
Perhaps you should update the download page more often?
http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/downloads/downloads.html
Cheers!
1) http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/classpath/2005-02/msg00109.html
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gt; getting worked up about.
Stephen; the fact that you can choose this removal to take place should
tell you something about what Etienne is writing these emails for.
Since, without respect, there can be no cooperation.
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> On Fri, 2005-18-03 at 09:56 +0100, Thomas Zander wrote:
> > I asked mark if he could make sure the announcements were made in such a
> > way
> > that newbees could get started right away. The
test cases
+Example programs for GNU Classpath
+Documentation fixes
+Help programs (e.g. japitools) and scripts
+
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ide, should the link on www.classpath.org be changed to
> point to the new bug tracker?
Hmm.
what about an update on the 'progress' of merging the bugtrackers
for the people that only read this list? :-)
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report that the output
> doesn't look good with IE6 on Windows - see this link (includes
> screenshot):
>
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1174036&group_id
>=15494&atid=365494
So it looks great in all browsers that correctly support css2,
on in X11 anyway?)
My mpeg player uses a fullscreen framebuffer to write faster. Then again
it can show the thing in a window as well; so its not really full screen..
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contributed on.
A simple configure extention to print a 'please download jess, this subdir
will not not be build' or similar should be enough. It certainly works for
the projects I have seen.
Any idea how big KDE would be if dependent libraries were to be included?
Just unmain
wards a full merge.
In that case; I'd like to publicly add my support to this import. :-)
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o fix them again
later today. :}
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do an cvs update on the build.xml in mauve and try again:
JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/j2sdk1.5.0 ant jars
Oh; don't forget an ant clean first, naturally.
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removal of the method (not constructor)
public void EditorContainer() on class:
javax.swing.tree.DefaultTreeCellEditor.EditorContainer
Changes like that are basically win-win situations for all java users.
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a good idea to get them in the loop
so they can test and debug.
What about writing an invitation email to such projects?
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be supported, but there
are people out there (mostly companies) that do it. So, now you know :)
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d when I give
them that nothing is done with most of them.
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On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 10:43:33AM +0200, Sven de Marothy wrote:
> Thomas Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 1 June 2005 05:56, Sven de Marothy wrote:
> > > I'd like to clean it up a bit and close all bugs and patches prior to
> > > Jan 1, 200
ould we do?
I'd suggest protected for the same reason we don't implement the com.sun.*
classes; they are not in the official API.
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> Thanks for your time,
> Matt Van Gundy
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ther layer (png writing). So tests don't break if png writing fails.
I'd love to see such a huge Java2D coverage automated testsuite.
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les already; I was under
the impression that classpath does not have that.
The most obvious example of such a use is to move autogen and friends to
such a module and let others share that module.
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Mark: Feel free to msg me on IRC on the cvs stuff needed for this.
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t;We" (the VM devs) just need to know which
> patches we should apply :-)
Let me point to the option to create a stable-branch again, this kind of
work is exactly what they are meant for.
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d to the classpath at a later time?
Then again, we probably also don't store URL of already loaded RBs to
check if the file was updated so we can reload.
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On Thursday 7 July 2005 18:29, you wrote:
> Thomas Zander wrote:
> >Won't that break things when new (more specialised) resource bundles
> > are added to the classpath at a later time?
> >Then again, we probably also don
rcecode of my tool (GPL) can be downloaded using the excellent darcs:
darcs get --partial http://members.home.nl/zander/worldwide
Oh; for the paranoia gnome people (who obviously read this in the
archives, since they are not on this list), go ahead and make one with
the gnome database, its fre
gzilla sites
which don't have this problem, so it surely is a gcc.gnu.org problem.
I'm sure you will agree that not having a horizontal slider will make
bugzilla a lot more usable as you can actually read the text.
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In a former job we just copied the encoder/decoder methods to our company
lib. Its not a whole lot of code, so I think many will have taken that
route.
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ts for software written in the java
> programming language.
Why don't they just follow the jpackage 'convention' like all the other
distro's?
I know that thats what SuSE uses.
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ementation is inconsistent with the docs, they are likely
to change the docs.
Therefor I suggest to experiment with the layout until you are sure about
how it works and reimplement that in mauve/classpath with the proper docs
explaining how things _actually_ work.
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> Todays cvs of classpath builds just fine, but I was presented with an
> error on a make install.
Oh, sorry for mailing so fast, it actually did not compile fully, there
just was no error message.
See also; http://gcc.gnu.org/bu
URL will be included
> into the Vendor Tag List, together with our VMCID.
I suggest to create some short URL and put a redirect page there to the
'current' documentation location. So you can move from wiki to whatever
and only change the redirect php.
Something like www.clas
gestion; annotating something that is not there...
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ny config options for that?
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ee-NX server, you will most probably get a very decent framerate
out it. I have seen it work on very low bandwidth situations (thing full
screen x forwarding over a 56kb modem in full speed).
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I.e. top's data should be taken with a landslide of salt.
I could naturally say that the RES ram is lower for router :)
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stem.out.println(textfield.getDocument().getClass().getName())
Maybe add some debug code to the doc's
public void insertString() method.
Hope that helps.
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1.4 API.
So, which is it? 95 or 96% ?
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d news is that classpath still is GPL+ which means you can fix the
bugs in your local copies (and do with it whatever you want) whereas in
Suns version that certainly is never going to be possible.
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ng to
> end up trying to throw the same AccessControlException and failing to
> access line.separator again, ad infinitum (until you run out of
> stack).
I'd say that the toString should never throw that exception (the spec does
not do that either).
So either catch it in th
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