I wish to help

2002-10-29 Thread Jeffrey Morgan
Title: I wish to help I would like to contribute to the classpath project. I would like to ask the current developers where I can be of the most use.  I have several years of JNI experience and have worked on several open source GUI toolkits.  I know the GTK library stack very well and

Re: I wish to help

2002-10-29 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 13:02, Jeffrey Morgan wrote: > I would like to contribute to the classpath project. Thanks. That would be very nice! We have a little document to help people get up to speed fast. The GNU Classpath Hacker's Guide: http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/doc/hacking.html B

Re: I wish to help

2002-10-29 Thread Brian Jones
Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Chris Gray said that they wanted to relicense it if needed but I > don't know if they are actually going to donate it to the FSF for > inclusion in the GNU Classpath project. Note however that Rudolph is > not a peer based implementation. I'm trying to

Re: I wish to help

2002-10-31 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 01:23, Brian Jones wrote: > Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Chris Gray said that they wanted to relicense it if needed but I > > don't know if they are actually going to donate it to the FSF for > > inclusion in the GNU Classpath project. Note however tha

Re: I wish to help

2002-10-31 Thread Andy Walter
Hi, On Thursday 31 October 2002 12:15, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Has someone actually tried Rudolph with GNU Classpath? Yes, it is running quite well here. But we replaced many native methods (all but 5) by Java code. Since Rudolph uses a proprietary interface, this replacement might be interestin

Re: I wish to help

2002-10-31 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Andy" == Andy Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andy> Not only that but it also doesn't depend on GTK. I think it Andy> would be great to separate the top level graphics stuff from the Andy> low level peer classes by a common, well-defined interface. Andy> I expect that the sooner we agre

Re: I wish to help

2002-10-31 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Mark" == Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mark> Also take into account that Wonka contains only the java.awt, Mark> java.awt.event and java.awt.image packages. We have that and Mark> java.awt.color, java.awt.datatransfer, java.awt.dnd, java.awt.dnd.peer, Mark> java.awt.font, java.

Re: I wish to help

2002-10-31 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 14:32, Andy Walter wrote: > On Thursday 31 October 2002 12:15, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > Has someone actually tried Rudolph with GNU Classpath? > > Yes, it is running quite well here. But we replaced many native methods (all > but 5) by Java code. Since Rudolph uses a pr

Re: I wish to help

2002-10-31 Thread Brian Jones
Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 01:23, Brian Jones wrote: > > Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Chris Gray said that they wanted to relicense it if needed but I > > > don't know if they are actually going to donate it to the FSF for > > > inclus

Re: I wish to help

2002-10-31 Thread Brian Jones
Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think as with any merge, something like this must be done > class-by-class with careful attention paid to preserving the benefits > of both implementations. A merge of the software remains impossible in this manner. If there are useful parts that might

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-03 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 02:08, Brian Jones wrote: > > So I'm pretty much of the opinion that Classpath's AWT just needs a > little TLC from someone dedicated to it for a while to make it > useable. Having JVMs without major threading issues will aid this > development. This is why I would per

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Chris Gray
On 31 Oct 2002, Brian Jones wrote: > So I'm pretty much of the opinion that Classpath's AWT just needs a > little TLC from someone dedicated to it for a while to make it > useable. Having JVMs without major threading issues will aid this > development. This is why I would personally develop the

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Chris Gray
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Andy Walter wrote: > Hi, > > On Thursday 31 October 2002 12:15, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > Has someone actually tried Rudolph with GNU Classpath? > > Yes, it is running quite well here. But we replaced many native methods (all > but 5) by Java code. Since Rudolph uses a propr

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Chris Gray
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Chris Gray wrote: > Although The Boss is now back, I haven't yet cornered him to double-check > this. However I'm sure that to get into our main source tree, code would > need to be assigned to us, or at least released under a licence no more > restrictive than BSD: anything

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Andy Walter
Hi, On Thursday 31 October 2002 22:45, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > [Rudolph + GNU Classpath] > > Nice. Do you use any of the non-rudolph java.awt.* packages/classes? No. Sorry if I got that wrong. We use Classpath, except from AWT and java.lang, and the modified AWT classes from Rudolph. So far, we

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Chris Gray
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Andy Walter wrote: > I am no graphics specialist, so I can't tell. I'll ask our AWT developers > about that. However, I would expect that there are changes necessary in all > three implementations (Rudolph, Classpath, and our modified Rudolph), so > before going into technic

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 10:50, Chris Gray wrote: > > Although The Boss is now back, I haven't yet cornered him to double-check > this. However I'm sure that to get into our main source tree, code would > need to be assigned to us, or at least released under a licence no more > restrictive tha

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 15:20, Andy Walter wrote: > Hi, > > On Thursday 31 October 2002 22:45, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > [Rudolph + GNU Classpath] > > > > Nice. Do you use any of the non-rudolph java.awt.* packages/classes? > > No. Sorry if I got that wrong. We use Classpath, except from AWT

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Brian Jones
Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It is a pity we weren't able to clarify the license enough back in > January when Etienne Gagnon was pushing for this so that we could > accept his contributions. Etienne is a contributing member of GNU Classpath, paperwork and CVS access and everything

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 00:37, Brian Jones wrote: > Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It is a pity we weren't able to clarify the license enough back in > > January when Etienne Gagnon was pushing for this so that we could > > accept his contributions. > > Etienne is a contributi

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Brian Jones
Chris Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It remains a possibility that if Acunia's current AWT is dual licensed > > in the manner Chris described that parts of this work could be > > integrated as an external library to provide optional functionality in > > Classpath's AWT. So inspection of th

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Brian Jones
Andy Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am no graphics specialist, so I can't tell. I'll ask our AWT developers > about that. However, I would expect that there are changes necessary in all > three implementations (Rudolph, Classpath, and our modified Rudolph), so > before going into techni

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Brian Jones
Chris Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Andy Walter wrote: > > > I am no graphics specialist, so I can't tell. I'll ask our AWT > > developers about that. However, I would expect that there are > > changes necessary in all three implementations (Rudolph, > > Classpath, and ou

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Brian Jones
Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "Mark" == Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Mark> Stephen Crawley just fixed the threading issues in Kissme with > Mark> the latest pthread library and I am now again able to run our > Mark> TestAWT program out of the (CVS) box with Kissm

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-04 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Mark" == Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mark> Stephen Crawley just fixed the threading issues in Kissme with Mark> the latest pthread library and I am now again able to run our Mark> TestAWT program out of the (CVS) box with Kissme. (It crashes Mark> whenever you push any of the

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-05 Thread Andy Walter
On Tuesday 05 November 2002 00:56, Brian Jones wrote: > Andy, it does not seem like it will be possible to do a complete merge > as originally hoped. Even so, it should be possible to work with you > to include your necessary pieces that provide greater embedded > functionality. Yes, of course. S

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-05 Thread Andy Walter
On Tuesday 05 November 2002 00:01, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > [Rudolph + GNU Classpath] > > I meant did you try any of the awt sub-packages not found in Rudolph? > e.g. java.awt.color, java.awt.datatransfer, java.awt.dnd, java.awt.font, > java.awt.geom, java.awt.im, java.awt.im.spi, java.awt.image.re

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-05 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 01:15, Tom Tromey wrote: > > "Mark" == Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Mark> Stephen Crawley just fixed the threading issues in Kissme with > Mark> the latest pthread library and I am now again able to run our > Mark> TestAWT program out of the (CVS) bo

Re: I wish to help

2002-11-05 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Mark" == Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mark> But I just tried to get this working again and it isn't that Mark> easy if you don't know what you have to do precisely. Fair enough. I wrote a couple scripts that work for me. They are appended. They are pretty bogus; the `build'