Re: Can I safely put that Clojure will Primarily remain a JVM language in the future as it is now?

2012-11-24 Thread Leon Adler
Will that change? If yes, to what? Parrot? Or CLR? On Nov 25, 3:45 am, Michael Klishin wrote: > 2012/11/25 Leon Adler > > > By official, I meant, the most 'in development' version, with most of > > the community following... > > That is JVM Clojure today. > -- > MK > > http://github.com/michaelk

Re: Can I safely put that Clojure will Primarily remain a JVM language in the future as it is now?

2012-11-24 Thread Leon Adler
By official, I meant, the most 'in development' version, with most of the community following... Will that change in the case of the JVM version? On Nov 25, 3:17 am, Michael Klishin wrote: > 2012/11/25 Leon Adler > > > So, JVM will officially remain the primary platform for further future > > de

Re: Can I safely put that Clojure will Primarily remain a JVM language in the future as it is now?

2012-11-24 Thread Leon Adler
So, JVM will officially remain the primary platform for further future developments on and of the language? Michael Klishin wrote: > 2012/11/25 Leon Adler > > > Here I am talking about the version of the future which will be > > developed and used and supported by Rich Hickey et al. Will that not

Re: [ANN] sublime-lispindent, clojure indenting for sublime text 2

2012-11-24 Thread Anthony Grimes
I just took a shot at it. I put it in Pristine Packages as described, but it disappears when I restart ST2 and try to use it. Also, will this work with the built in 'reindent' command? If not, will it work with vintage mode (you can reindent blocks with =ab from Vim)? I really wish the Clojure

Re: Can I safely put that Clojure will Primarily remain a JVM language in the future as it is now?

2012-11-24 Thread Leon Adler
You are probably talking about Clojure in Clojure? Right ? Here I am talking about the version of the future which will be developed and used and supported by Rich Hickey et al. Will that not remain on top of the JVM?? On Nov 24, 9:01 pm, David Nolen wrote: > I'm talking about a community suppor

Re: Can I safely put that Clojure will Primarily remain a JVM language in the future as it is now?

2012-11-24 Thread Leon Adler
This post was not meant for any queries on the release schedules of the various Clojure versions, but for a curious question -- "*Will Clojure (take all the upcomming versions back-to-back) remain to be known as the JVM language anytime in the future?*". You can say, that this question arises f

Re: Closure Accordion Widget

2012-11-24 Thread J Elaych
On Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:14:43 PM UTC-8, Jonathan Fischer Friberg wrote: > > > For example: > closure integrates perfectly with the closure compiler while jquery does > not. > jquery has great documentation while closure does not. > And so on. :) > I see what you're saying. Jquery has

clojurescript: ex-info and ex-data

2012-11-24 Thread Dave Sann
Is there a plan to add these? It seems like a step towards more generic exception handling between clj and cljs code. Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts

Re: Clojure expression benchmarks

2012-11-24 Thread Hugo Duncan
Andy Fingerhut writes: > I've just published some results of measuring the run time of many Clojure > expressions on 5 different JVMs and over a dozen different Clojure versions > at the link below. > > > http://jafingerhut.github.com/clojure-benchmarks-results/Clojure-expression-benchmark

Re: Closure Accordion Widget

2012-11-24 Thread Jonathan Fischer Friberg
I don't think there's a consensus. You will have to weigh the pros/cons and choose what fits you best. For example: closure integrates perfectly with the closure compiler while jquery does not. jquery has great documentation while closure does not. And so on. :) Jonathan On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at

Re: Can I safely put that Clojure will Primarily remain a JVM language in the future as it is now?

2012-11-24 Thread David Nolen
I'm talking about a community supported set of tools to support bootstrapping a Clojure compiler for whatever target you happen to care about. On Saturday, November 24, 2012, Laurent PETIT wrote: > Are you talking about the compiler, or the runtime ? > > What does "Clojure sans JVM" mean for thos

Re: Can I safely put that Clojure will Primarily remain a JVM language in the future as it is now?

2012-11-24 Thread Laurent PETIT
Are you talking about the compiler, or the runtime ? What does "Clojure sans JVM" mean for those targetting the JVM without that being an "implementation detail" ? :-) 2012/11/25 David Nolen : > Nope. > > > On Saturday, November 24, 2012, Laurent PETIT wrote: >> >> You probably meant "towards Clo

Re: Subsequent deliver to promise doesn't seem to throw exception ?

2012-11-24 Thread Frank Siebenlist
Thanks Andy, Why do I have the feeling that you know all those tickets by head ;-) … but I should have searched JIRA first before posting. -FS. On Nov 24, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Andy Fingerhut wrote: > The comments on this ticket should answer your questions: > >http://dev.clojure.org/jira/

Re: Can I safely put that Clojure will Primarily remain a JVM language in the future as it is now?

2012-11-24 Thread David Nolen
Nope. On Saturday, November 24, 2012, Laurent PETIT wrote: > You probably meant "towards ClojureScript sans JVM" ;-) > > 2012/11/25 David Nolen >: > > ClojureScript dev is actively working towards Clojure sans JVM. > > > > > > On Saturday, November 24, 2012, Leon Adler wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> >

Re: Can I safely put that Clojure will Primarily remain a JVM language in the future as it is now?

2012-11-24 Thread Laurent PETIT
You probably meant "towards ClojureScript sans JVM" ;-) 2012/11/25 David Nolen : > ClojureScript dev is actively working towards Clojure sans JVM. > > > On Saturday, November 24, 2012, Leon Adler wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> JVM is known to be a robust, reliable and optimised platform for >> development

Re: Can I safely put that Clojure will Primarily remain a JVM language in the future as it is now?

2012-11-24 Thread David Nolen
ClojureScript dev is actively working towards Clojure sans JVM. On Saturday, November 24, 2012, Leon Adler wrote: > Hi, > > JVM is known to be a robust, reliable and optimised platform for > development and deployment. Rich Hicky's decision to develop Clojure on the > JVM is fantastic, and it's d

Clojure expression benchmarks

2012-11-24 Thread Andy Fingerhut
I've just published some results of measuring the run time of many Clojure expressions on 5 different JVMs and over a dozen different Clojure versions at the link below. http://jafingerhut.github.com/clojure-benchmarks-results/Clojure-expression-benchmarks.html You can click on the "hardwar

Re: Subsequent deliver to promise doesn't seem to throw exception ?

2012-11-24 Thread Andy Fingerhut
The comments on this ticket should answer your questions: http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-1038 Andy On Nov 24, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Frank Siebenlist wrote: > I'm confused by the "promised" behaviour of the documentation of deliver: > > --- > > user=> (doc deliver) > --

Re: Anyone using Sublime Text 2 + SumblimeREPL with Windows?

2012-11-24 Thread adrians
Here's where things are - https://github.com/wuub/SublimeREPL/issues/48 On Thursday, November 22, 2012 5:56:30 PM UTC-5, JvJ wrote: > > Hi, I've started using Sublime as well, and I'm having the same problem. > Any progress? > > On Wednesday, 19 September 2012 03:27:01 UTC-4, cp16net wrote: >> >

Subsequent deliver to promise doesn't seem to throw exception ?

2012-11-24 Thread Frank Siebenlist
I'm confused by the "promised" behaviour of the documentation of deliver: --- user=> (doc deliver) - clojure.core/deliver ([promise val]) Alpha - subject to change. Delivers the supplied value to the promise, releasing any pending derefs. A subsequent call to deliver

Re: import blah.*

2012-11-24 Thread Herwig Hochleitner
I'm not convinced about allowing wildcard imports. Same reason that we discourage use without :only for. About discoverability: I'd take a look at the autocompletion code for swank-clojure, lein repl, et. al. Maybe there is a contrib in there? About your static/dynamic remark: In static langs the

Re: Can I safely put that Clojure will Primarily remain a JVM language in the future as it is now?

2012-11-24 Thread Andy Fingerhut
Such questions make one wonder "Why are you asking?" For example, if it is simply curiosity, then I would answer that Clojure's primary platform has been the JVM since before it was released 5 years ago, and there are no signs I have seen that the developers who add features to and fix bugs in

Re: import blah.*

2012-11-24 Thread vemv
While coarse-grained imports are pretty obviously a suboptimal practice, I believe the lack of some this possibility (in at least some form) hinders exploratory programming / API discoverability. Would it be feasible to add an :as directive to 'import? An use case: ; --- state of the editor at

Re: Closure Accordion Widget

2012-11-24 Thread J Elaych
So I guess that means using jayq. Is that the new consensus on using clojurescript for guis? I see lots of discussion on closure vs jquery in clojurescript but it is hard to tell what is going to be the standard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cl

Can I safely put that Clojure will Primarily remain a JVM language in the future as it is now?

2012-11-24 Thread Leon Adler
Hi, JVM is known to be a robust, reliable and optimised platform for development and deployment. Rich Hicky's decision to develop Clojure on the JVM is fantastic, and it's delightfull to see it grow on the JVM as its primary platform. Yeah, as a matter of fact JVM is the primary platform fo