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It's okay. I couldn't get hired as a C programmer for NASA years ago,
and I had already written my own working C compiler! The idiot
interviewer opened some huge C library reference manual to some random
page, and asked me to recite whatever function he had the page opened
to from memory. Of
On Mar 28, 11:19 pm, Luc Prefontaine
wrote:
> The simple answer (your # 1) was already provided by Shantanu.
> Install Eclipse and CCW and you can start simple Clojure projects.
> No immediate dependency issues until you need something from Clojar.
Oh, there have been lots of "simple answers." T
On Mar 28, 11:39 pm, Lee Spector wrote:
> There's some ambiguity here about what kind of libraries we're talking about
> and where they come from.
> I think the poster is asking for a totally transparent way to do the stuff at
> the simple end of the spectrum (e.g. for built-in stuff
Yes, t
On Mar 28, 12:46 pm, Kasim wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am the guy who did ClojureW. I just updated the instruction to get a REPL
> with Jline. Thank you for reporting. I am also working on a "Just Works"
> emacs setup for all platforms and would be happy to hear your opinion. I
> really want to make it as
On Mar 28, 7:51 am, Lee Spector wrote:
> > Dependency management and other garbage are definitely garbage, but I know
> > of no nontrivial programming language that doesn't have its share of it.
> > If you know of any magical environments that eliminate such administrivia,
> > do share.
>
> A
On Mar 27, 11:09 pm, Luc Prefontaine
wrote:
> You cannot expect a tool to "guess" your project dependencies.
> Dependencies are a fact of life and cannot be avoided in any significant
> project.
> It's not "gargage"...
Anything I have to do besides what I should be doing is "garbage," but
I'm we
For newbs, I did not see this anywhere, but just discovered it, and it
is of immense value. In a REPL, you can just (load-file "path/to/
filename") to load the code you typed into an editor.
On Mar 27, 12:24 am, ultranewb wrote:
> NetBeans w/ Enclosure -
> Could get a REPL, cou
On Mar 27, 2:29 pm, Shantanu Kumar wrote:
> I'm curious - did/could you give Eclipse and Counter-ClockWise plugin
> a try?
I did not try Eclipse. I had a bad experience before with it. It
seems to be the worst to deal with as far as all the project and
dependency garbage, and none of that garba
On Mar 27, 6:40 am, Mark Engelberg wrote:
> Make sure the pane with your code is the active pane when you type
> Ctrl-c Ctrl-k. It won't work if the focus is on the REPL.
Nope, it doesn't work, no matter where the focus is.
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On Mar 27, 12:16 am, Preecha P wrote:
> I think you should take a look at clojure box again. You could split
> the windows and have both code/repl open at the same times.
Doesn't work for me. See this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/browse_thread/thread/3c61be467d783415
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On Mar 27, 12:35 am, Mark Engelberg wrote:
> Type some Clojure code into the file you created. Save periodically
> with "Ctrl-x Ctrl-s". When you want to try out your code, type
> "Ctrl-c ctrl-k" and all your code will be evaluated and those
> definitions will now be available for interactive us
NetBeans w/ Enclosure -
Could get a REPL, couldn't figure out how to do anything else. Result
- uninstalled.
IntelliJ w/ La Clojure -
Could get a REPL, couldn't figure out how to do anything else. In
particular, I followed some specific instructions from somewhere
(can't remember where) for how
On Mar 25, 11:05 pm, Shantanu Kumar wrote:
> Are you using Mac, Linux or Windows?
>
> Okay, let me list few things out for you (assuming you are on
> Windows):
Yes, on Windows. Okay, I can give these things a try late tomorrow
and post my results back. Thanks for helping.
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I mean, how is what you are describing any different than what these
asians I am referring to do?
On another note, I have unfortunately decided that I just can't do
Clojure right now. I was never able to get anything to work except
for using the command line to "java -cp" a file that way. No edi
t would be any different to do the same with APL symbols.
In practice, I just don't know enough about the problem, so maybe it
is.
On Mar 25, 12:15 pm, Ken Wesson wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:36 AM, ultranewb wrote:
> > On Mar 25, 8:58 am, Sean Corfield wrote:
> >> My
On Mar 25, 8:58 am, Sean Corfield wrote:
> My final year project at university was to write an APL interpreter
> (in Pascal, back in '83). APL is a fun language. I haven't looked at J
> (yet).
Awesome!
J is APL, but totally "modernized." Everything you would expect in a
functional language (cur
On Mar 24, 10:19 am, Sean Corfield wrote:
> Heh, even as a long-time Java developer (since '97), I'm here because
> I want something _better_ than Java. It's why I learned Groovy in 2008
> (sort of "Java-lite" - fixes most of Java's problems but suffers from
> performance issues compared to Java),
On Mar 24, 7:26 am, Armando Blancas wrote:
> That's quite alright. Nine out of ten people here hate java;
Actually, I didn't know that. I imagined that 9 out of 10 people here
would be java-ites. It's good to know that I'm in good company.
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On Mar 23, 11:23 pm, wschnell wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I started with NetBeans and Enclojure and never used anything else.
> You can just go File/New Project, say this is going to be a Clojure
> project, give it a name. This will be your new active project in the
> projects tree on the le
On Mar 24, 1:11 am, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > Long version: Okay, I'm very new to Clojure. But I'm not a Java
> > programmer (don't want to be).
>
> I don't think you can get very far in Clojure without having to come
> to grips with the Java infrastructure. It ain't Unix.
Well, for me I guess it w
On Mar 23, 10:15 pm, Timothy Baldridge wrote:
> > No I did not, because I didn't go the Eclipse route; rather, I tried
> > NetBeans and Emacs.
>
> That was my experience as well. I have tried many Eclipse based IDEs
> and they all were slow, buggy, and utterly worthless. So I didn't even
> try to
On Mar 23, 9:43 pm, Laurent PETIT wrote:
> Did you follow the presentation of getting started with
> Eclipse+Counterclockwise, where the step by step guide explains how to setup
> your environment, and also how to create a hello world project ?
No I did not, because I didn't go the Eclipse route;
On Mar 23, 9:10 pm, Aaron Cohen wrote:
> Did you search for getting started guides? If so and you didn't find
> these, how can they be made easier to find? If you didn't find them,
> why not? If you found them and they didn't help, why not?
Yes, I had previously found all those guides, and much m
Yes, the issue isn't Clojure at all, it's Java. At any rate, thanks
for feeling my pain.
On Mar 23, 8:59 pm, Timothy Baldridge wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:11 AM, ultranewb wrote:
> > I'll be damned - this worked. Really, there needs to be some
> > promi
27;t even
know what the heck a "jar" file is). And these guides need to be
linked right at the front page of the Clojure site.
Anyway, thanks.
On Mar 23, 7:25 pm, Stefan Sigurdsson wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:50 AM, ultranewb wrote:
> > Short version: How do I just ope
Short version: How do I just open an editor, type in some Clojure
code, save it in a file, and then run it?
Long version: Okay, I'm very new to Clojure. But I'm not a Java
programmer (don't want to be). I'm not used to all this complexity
just to do something simple. What I want to do is the
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