Re: Anyone care to defend/comment some points in this presentation

2009-09-18 Thread Michael Wood
2009/9/17 z5h bolusm...@gmail.com: Specifically some problems encountered in Clojure's STM and bytecode generation. http://www.azulsystems.com/events/javaone_2009/session/2009_J1_JVMLang.pdf (Slide's 8 and 20-21) I suppose you mean slide 9 rather than 8: Clojure - “almost close” * Good:

Re: Anyone care to defend/comment some points in this presentation

2009-09-18 Thread Roberto Mannai
Also the slide 21 should worth an answer: a benchmark of STM with more CPU gives Performance died – choked in the STM On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Michael Wood esiot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/17 z5h bolusm...@gmail.com: Specifically some problems encountered in Clojure's STM and

Re: Anyone care to defend/comment some points in this presentation

2009-09-18 Thread Mark Volkmann
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:22 PM, John Harrop jharrop...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Mark Volkmann r.mark.volkm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:43 PM, z5h bolusm...@gmail.com wrote: Specifically some problems encountered in Clojure's STM and bytecode

Re: Anyone care to defend/comment some points in this presentation

2009-09-18 Thread David Nolen
Click answers that himself: Clojure usage failure. The particular scenario he is demonstrating is known and has been brought up before. Also it's probably only reproduceable when you have a truly large number of cores (like a 600 way Azul box). In anycase Rich Hickey does not advise against locks

Re: Anyone care to defend/comment some points in this presentation

2009-09-18 Thread John Harrop
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Mark Volkmann r.mark.volkm...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:22 PM, John Harrop jharrop...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Mark Volkmann r.mark.volkm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:43 PM, z5h

Anyone care to defend/comment some points in this presentation

2009-09-17 Thread z5h
Specifically some problems encountered in Clojure's STM and bytecode generation. http://www.azulsystems.com/events/javaone_2009/session/2009_J1_JVMLang.pdf (Slide's 8 and 20-21) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: Anyone care to defend/comment some points in this presentation

2009-09-17 Thread Mark Volkmann
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:43 PM, z5h bolusm...@gmail.com wrote: Specifically some problems encountered in Clojure's STM and bytecode generation. http://www.azulsystems.com/events/javaone_2009/session/2009_J1_JVMLang.pdf (Slide's 8 and 20-21) Slide 20 - Should say Nothing mutable by default