Re: Clojure Web Framework, what I want to add

2009-03-17 Thread Jeffrey Straszheim
I hadn't heard of Grizzly before. Thanks for the pointer (er..., reference, or whatever we're calling them these days). On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Hubert Iwaniuk wrote: > Hi Jeffrey, > I was recently thinking of adding support for > https://grizzly.dev.java.net/ in > http://github.com/wea

Re: Clojure Web Framework, what I want to add

2009-03-17 Thread Hubert Iwaniuk
Hi Jeffrey, I was recently thinking of adding support for https://grizzly.dev.java.net/ in http://github.com/weavejester/compojure/tree/master. Just need some time to get my head around compojure. Cheers, Hubert. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jeffrey Straszheim < straszheimjeff...@gmail.com

Re: Clojure Web Framework, what I want to add

2009-03-17 Thread James Reeves
On Mar 16, 11:17 pm, BerlinBrown wrote: > After many years (decade) of web development, here are the things that > I want in a framework, mostly based in clojure: > > What do you think and what you add.  This is ambitious and just a > "ideas" of what I would add.  What would you want from your id

Re: Clojure Web Framework, what I want to add

2009-03-16 Thread Berlin Brown
On Mar 16, 10:42 pm, Shawn Hoover wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Stuart Sierra > wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 7:17 pm, BerlinBrown wrote: > > > After many years (decade) of web development, here are the things that > > > I want in a framework, mostly based in clojure: > > > > Wha

Re: Clojure Web Framework, what I want to add

2009-03-16 Thread Shawn Hoover
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Stuart Sierra wrote: > > On Mar 16, 7:17 pm, BerlinBrown wrote: > > After many years (decade) of web development, here are the things that > > I want in a framework, mostly based in clojure: > > > > What do you think and what you add. This is ambitious and just a

Re: Clojure Web Framework, what I want to add

2009-03-16 Thread Stuart Sierra
On Mar 16, 7:17 pm, BerlinBrown wrote: > After many years (decade) of web development, here are the things that > I want in a framework, mostly based in clojure: > > What do you think and what you add.  This is ambitious and just a > "ideas" of what I would add.  What would you want from your ide

Re: Clojure Web Framework, what I want to add

2009-03-16 Thread David Nolen
I'm mostly a front-end UI person with crazy amounts of JS experience so most of my input will be from that stand point. 1. I agree with Sean on this one. No need to bring in middleware that can't be expressed in 10X-20X less code in pure Clojure. 2. The framework should allow for any backend (even

Re: Clojure Web Framework, what I want to add

2009-03-16 Thread Sean
Okay, if you have to work with something rpe-existing that makes more sense. My main point is that if I were started from scratch, I'd do it different. On Mar 16, 8:12 pm, Berlin Brown wrote: > On Mar 16, 7:52 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim > wrote: > > > I'd love to see something built around very-hi

Re: Clojure Web Framework, what I want to add

2009-03-16 Thread Berlin Brown
On Mar 16, 7:52 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim wrote: > I'd love to see something built around very-high scalability, using NIO and > thread pools and such. > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Sean wrote: > > > I'm not sure if some of the design inputs make sense, specifically > > Spring and Hibernat

Re: Clojure Web Framework, what I want to add

2009-03-16 Thread Jeffrey Straszheim
I'd love to see something built around very-high scalability, using NIO and thread pools and such. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Sean wrote: > > I'm not sure if some of the design inputs make sense, specifically > Spring and Hibernate. > > Point 1 - I've found the strength of Spring to be mak

Re: Clojure Web Framework, what I want to add

2009-03-16 Thread Sean
I'm not sure if some of the design inputs make sense, specifically Spring and Hibernate. Point 1 - I've found the strength of Spring to be making up for the weaknesses of Java. Once you have first class functions, macros, and multi-methods (to name a few), Spring doesn't bring much to the table

Re: Clojure Web Framework, what I want to add

2009-03-16 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
Personally, I've been noodling about what a Tapestry/Clojure hybrid might look like. I'd advise that you take a peek at Lift, a functional web framework built on Scala. I have some ideas about what a component based framework would look like in a function world (note: this would be leaving JSPs

Clojure Web Framework, what I want to add

2009-03-16 Thread BerlinBrown
After many years (decade) of web development, here are the things that I want in a framework, mostly based in clojure: What do you think and what you add. This is ambitious and just a "ideas" of what I would add. What would you want from your ideal framework? 1. Based on Spring Framework for m