Re: Clojure for large programs, was Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

2011-07-03 Thread Sean Corfield
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Nick Brown wrote: > But not the "lots of developers" part.  As much as I like > Clojure, it has nowhere near the level of developers languages like > Java or Python.  And to be honest, that constraint is much more > convincing for most software managers than the lib

Re: Clojure for large programs, was Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

2011-07-02 Thread Nick Brown
"Many managers, understandably, go with a technology with heavy library support and lots of developers. The common critique that Lisp isn't practical in industry, comes from that position. But Clojure, sitting atop the JVM, doesn't have that problem. " The library part, ok, sure (but if I'm writin

Re: Clojure for large programs, was Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

2011-07-02 Thread Timothy Washington
As for whether Clojure would work in a large corporate environment (or for large software), I think that's more a function of the internal politics of the organization. Many managers, understandably, go with a technology with heavy library support and lots of developers. The common critique that Li

Re: Clojure for large programs, was Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

2011-07-02 Thread James Keats
On Jul 2, 8:33 pm, Mark Engelberg wrote: > On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 12:21 PM, James Keats wrote: > > A very recent quote by Abelson is relevant: > > "One of the things I’m learning here (Google) is the experience of > > working on these enormous programs. I just never experienced that > > before.

Clojure for large programs, was Re: Please stand firm against Steve Yegge's "yes language" push

2011-07-02 Thread Mark Engelberg
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 12:21 PM, James Keats wrote: > A very recent quote by Abelson is relevant: > "One of the things I’m learning here (Google) is the experience of > working on these enormous programs. I just never experienced that > before. Previously a large program to me was a hundred pages