Is Silverblue on the same go-no go schedule as the rest of the versions?
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 2:20 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for the Fedora 30
> Beta Release Readiness meeting. This meeting will be held on Thursday,
> 2018-03-21 at 1
Absolutely, positively get rid of the 32-bit images! Moreover,
institute some kind of measurement program so the good folks who work
their hineys off making and testing this stuff know what people are
actually downloading / instantiating / building on!
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:02 PM, David Gay w
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:05:25AM -0700, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>> 3. I see no need for a separate "cloud hosting" install medium that's
>> any different from Server. A cloud host *is* a ser
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> That sounds like it will have all the problems we currently face with
> Spins. Too many choices, too much burden to produce, too little
> overall benefit for deviation, too niche, too much churn from release
> to release and new tech of the day
1. If it were me, I'd merge Server and Cloud products into one, called
Server, and distribute it as an install DVD
, a netinstall CD and images for the various cloud hosting providers.
Strip as much as you can out of it to get the image sizes down but
keep Anaconda, dnf and repository compatibility
Looks great! The only change I'd recommend is this - change
now it’s available by with just a “yum install elasticsearch” – no,
wait, make that “dnf install elasticsearch”!
to
now just “dnf install elasticsearch” and you’re ready to go!
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> Hi,
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Matt Micene wrote:
> I'm curious about the drive to make the "base cloud image" as small as
> possible and remove things like the Python stack. It could be that I've got
> a terminology issue (which also could be the case) tracking threads.
>
> What's the expected
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Rickard von Essen
wrote:
> I think there is one good (nearly) point and click installer that we could
> use (more): vagrant. Currently there is only boxes for VirtualBox and
> libvirt, maybe it would be possible to provide boxes for VMware, Parallels,
> KVM etc. It
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Kushal Das wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thank you everyone for a great Fedora 22 release. Things are stable now,
> before we can understand we will be in the alpha freeze for Fedora 23.
> So this is a good time to start working on the new features list for Fedora
> 23. 23rd Jun
A diagram of the artifacts (images, RPMs, issues, source repositories,
etc.) and how they interact would be very helpful to those of us who
are mostly users.
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> This is a strawman based on my understanding of current abilities,
> available sof
Right now I have the most recent Atomic host images as
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_Beta_TC8/Cloud-Images/x86_64/Images/
and the latest Docker base image as a *tarball* at
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_TC1/Docker/x86_64/.
1. Will there be newer media by Test Day?
2
+1 for just tmux and +10 for every unneeded package you can take out
of Atomic and out of the Docker base image. ;-)
'nano' instead of 'vim-minimal'?
Of course, I'd love to see the Python run-time disappear from
"minimalist" systems too - you pretty much have to have 'gawk', 'sed'
and one of the
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 03:26:36PM -0700, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>> 1. *Fedora* Atomic host and its release media / disk images / Vagrant boxes
>
> Right.
>
>> 2. Fedora 22 Docker image (which right
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> On 04/14/2015 09:50 AM, Colin Walters wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015, at 09:41 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 08:31:49AM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
Here's what I'd say, lemme know if this sounds sane:
>>>
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Michael P. McGrath wrote:
>> From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky"
>> Seriously, though, my sense after struggling with the existing Atomic
>> documentation is that it is a tool only for a very sophisticated class
>> of developer / ope
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 10:15:35AM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_talking_points
>
> [this reply to cloud sig only]
>
> I added a bit about Vagrant. What else do we have?
>
> And I also added a questi
I just downloaded the beta TC8 cloud netinstall disk
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_Beta_TC8/Cloud/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Cloud-netinst-x86_64-22_Beta_TC8.iso.
It seems to be installing, but by default it appears to be installing
a minimal system rather than a cloud host. Is that the inte
/178
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:53 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> On 04/01/2015 06:29 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>> Did this get published? The paste seems to have vanished.
>
> Yes, a long time ago.
> --
> Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud & Storage Analyst
> j...@re
Did this get published? The paste seems to have vanished.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> On 03/17/2015 10:55 PM, Amit Saha wrote:
>> $ vagrant box add f22atomic
>> Fedora-Cloud-Atomic-Vagrant-22_Alpha-20150305.x86_64.rhevm.ova
>
> Ah, yeah - Jason Brooks pointed that ou
Yeah - that's what I'm looking for. I must have missed an announcement.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 4:42 PM, David Gay wrote:
> - Original Message -----
>> From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky"
>> To: "Fedora Cloud SIG"
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31,
Is there going to be a new Atomic image soon? I've done pretty much
all I can with TC2 - I got everything working except Cockpit, which
doesn't seem to be in the image.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 03:40:07PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> > Oh
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> Oh, of course. The plan being discussed is that development will land
> first in Fedora, on a two-week cycle, and then flow to CentOS. So, if
> you want to engage early, Fedora Atomic is the place — especially if
> you want to be involved i
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> I don't know about Microsoft, but Atomic aims to be a lot more than
> just a "boot to docker" platform, including application orchestration.
Can't I do that with a CentOS Atomic build?
___
cloud
The only use case I have at the moment for Atomic is as a *potential*
replacement for "Boot2Docker" on a Windows 8.1 - 10 Client Hyper-V
host. And there I'm perfectly happy with a CentOS Atomic - all it has
to do is run Docker containers and not have a larger attack surface
than Boot2Docker. ;-) .
I like the proposal - where do we vote? ;-)
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Am in all-day meeting, I may be able to poke my head in but I don't think
> that I will be able to be fully engaged today.
>
> I do have the proposal I promised here:
>
> https://fed
I'm game to learn Sphinx and rST - I'm a heavy Markdown user already
and Eric Holscher's almost persuaded me rST is significantly better.
;-) What time zone are you in? I'm in US Pacific Daylight - UTC - 7
hours.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 2:29 AM, Kushal Das wrote:
> On 18/03/15, Pete Travis wrote:
7;ll update this for
F22.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:54 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> My two cents:
>
> 1. Pandoc is your friend!!! Write rST, Markdown, AsciiDoc, Textile,
> DocBook, LaTeX and a bunch of others and Pandoc translates to HTML,
> epub, various other text marku
My two cents:
1. Pandoc is your friend!!! Write rST, Markdown, AsciiDoc, Textile,
DocBook, LaTeX and a bunch of others and Pandoc translates to HTML,
epub, various other text markups and if you've got the LaTeX tool
chain, PDFs. It will only take me half a day or so to put up a
Dockerfile with the
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> On Thursday, March 19, 2015 08:45:36 AM Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>> On 03/19/2015 12:11 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>> > If you have raw data, I'd be happy to explore it for you - email me
>> > off-list
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Pete Travis wrote:
> Hey cloud team,
>
> I think we need some cloud docs. Fedora has a lot to offer in the cloud
> area, and I'm sure that those engaged in the space are excited that
> Fedora has what they are looking for. The uninitiated, on the other
> hand, a
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:38 PM, David Gay wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> We sort of ran out of time in today's Cloud WG meeting, but I did want to ask:
>
> What are your thoughts on AMI lifetimes? That is to say, how long should EC2
> AMIs exist before they're deleted? A few points to consider:
>
> - A
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:24 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
wrote:
[snip]
> 4. Now type
>
> sudo docker run -it /bin/bash
>
> You should be logged into the container as "root".
>
> So far I've completed steps 1 - 3 tonight. Step 4 is failing. I'l
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Robyn Bergeron
wrote:
> Is that doing something different / using something different than the
> image linked in
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_22_Beta_TC2_Cloud?rd=Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test
>
> ?
>
> (That also lists all the various te
Mar 16, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015, at 03:03 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>>> Are there test scenarios somewhere? I can't figure out how to get a
>>> working image from the Docker tarball.
>>
>> We don't
age.
I'll put up a sample on the znmeb account at Docker Hub once I get
something working.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015, at 03:03 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>> Are there test scenarios somewhere? I can't figure out how to ge
Are there test scenarios somewhere? I can't figure out how to get a
working image from the Docker tarball.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Some testables for y'all:
>
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_Beta_TC2/Cloud-Images/x86_64/Images/
>
> ht
For cloud images I don't have a problem with dnf-only or dnf-plus-yum.
But for a *Docker* image having both dnf and yum or both python2 and
python3 is going to be a nightmare for me - the base images will be
too big.
I'm guessing it's too late in the F22 release cycle for major changes
on the Dock
The Dockerfiles are on Github IIRC - if I fork / pull request for my
PostGIS one, is there a chance it'll get in the release?
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Major Hayden wrote:
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> On 03/11/2015 09:23 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>> I'm CC'ing Scot
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Michael P. McGrath wrote:
> Hey all, I wanted to start a thread about doing more frequent Atomic releases
> in Fedora.
> In particular I'd like to start building a new atomic release every two weeks
> that
> includes the latest version of Docker, Kubernetes, and O
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote:
> Note coreutils is up the top at 14.6MB
> It has a new feature in recent versions to reduce disk usage with:
> ./configure --enable-single-binary
> It might be worth trying out? Caveat is some more shared
> libs for some tools, which associ
Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:32 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:02:34AM -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>>> What's the process? I found grub2 and fedora-logos in my own testing
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:02:34AM -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>> What's the process? I found grub2 and fedora-logos in my own testing
>> but didn't know about firewalld? Does one simply remove things and
; On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 11:36:04PM -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>> I'm starting to build Docker images on the Fedora base and I'm a
>> little concerned about the size of the images. For example, the Debian
>> base is 85.1 MB, the Ubuntu base is 192 MB and the Cen
I'm starting to build Docker images on the Fedora base and I'm a
little concerned about the size of the images. For example, the Debian
base is 85.1 MB, the Ubuntu base is 192 MB and the CentOS base is 224
MB. The Fedora base is 250.2 MB and that's *before* I install any
application code.
Is there
OpenShift Origin 3 will be stable by then, right?
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> On 12/12/2014 03:15 AM, Kushal Das wrote:
>> It is time again to start discussion on the new features we want to
>> work for Fedora 22 release. The release schedule can be found at [1].
>>
>
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>
> On 12/09/2014 10:49 AM, Cole Robinson wrote:
> >
> > Right, but none of the common end user tools like boxes or
> > virt-manager/virt-install (or raw libvirt, or qemu) will do that for
> > you. So something would still need to be documente
Yeah - that bothered me too. But I think Atomic is so young and the
competitive environment is so fluid right now that I'm willing to do some
digging. Now that the release is out there needs to be a focus on
*practical* use cases for the cloud products, preferably with solid
"reference accounts" /
Just at first glance, I think you need to make crystal clear what the
three "sub-products" in Fedora Cloud are and who they are for:
1. Base - a cloud server - you're running a Fedora 21 server in the cloud
2. Docker image - Fedora 21 to run inside a Docker container / host -
you're building conta
I'd like a bit more on Atomic, but given how early in the project it
is, just a "here's something cool to play with" is probably OK. ;-)
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Is there anything we're missing here?
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F21_Final_release_a
Yeah - there are also some Docker security issues that are supposedly
fixed in 1.3.2!
https://coreos.com/blog/docker-1-3-2-security-update/
I don't have the details handy but IIRC there was one vulnerability in
all Docker versions and another in both 1.3.0 and 1.3.1.
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:48
I've used Boot2Docker - it's "point, click and ship Docker hosting" for
Windows or MacOS X and it bundles the open-source piece of VirtualBox to
get that done. I haven't used it on a Mac but on Windows you download an
installer and run it. It installs VirtualBox, Windows MSYS Git and the
Boot2Docke
I rebooted a VM running Atomic and lost bash history, but I was unaware
that reboots were supposed to *preserve* bash history! I thought that was
expected behavior - a violent end to a process wouldn't necessarily allow
its buffers to be flushed.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Kushal Das wrote
You'd need to reformat them to vmdk with 'qemu-img convert' first, I think.
I got the Koji image to work on Windows 8.1 Client Hyper-V by using
'qemu-img convert' to convert it from qcow2 to vhdx.
On a related note, is there a plan to build "boot2atomic"? Like
Boot2Docker, only Atomic instead of c
Great - is there a *technical* (meaning non-policy) reason why Fedora's
version of open-vm-tools doesn't support mounting host files in the guest?
VMware does such a terrible job at tracking changes in the kernel source
that I've given up on using it. And why is open-vm-tools installed by
default o
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:
> Hello,
> It's time to start packaging OpenShift Origin into Fedora 17 and 18.
Fedora 17 is still scheduled for release next Tuesday, right? So when
you say, "packaging OpenShift Origin for Fedora 17", you mean
"providing a repository with Open
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