dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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Discussion in the meeting today and votes in the ticket means we are approving
jberkus' proposal. the [mailing
list](https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/atomic.lists.fedoraproject.org/)
has been created and the irc channel
dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> Sorry if I'm missing context from the IRC #fedora-cloud convo, but isn't the
> proper place for those discussions in #fedora-releng? Is it worth having a
> separate channel just for FAH releng? If that's really the case, then
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@jlebon that was suggested, but @dustymabe really wanted a separate channel,
and nobody argued against it.
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> discussions and troubleshooting Fedora build pipeline/releng (bodhi, punji,
> etc.) for Atomic will be on the new channel #fedora-atomic. Content
> discussions which start there will get re-directed to #atomic.
Sorry if I'm missing
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+1 to jberkus' proposal.
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+1 to jberkus' proposal. :thumbsup:
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+1 to the @jberkus proposal
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+1 to jberkus' proposal.
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dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> Revised proposal based on discussion on #fedora-cloud:
known as jberkus' proposal
+1 to jberkus' proposal
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jberkus added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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Revised proposal based on discussion on #fedora-cloud:
Mailing Lists:
* ato...@lists.fedoraproject.org gets created. This list is for all automated
messages and cc'd on announcements. It is not a discussion list; discussions
on
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I'll also point out that https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/download/ already
directs people to ato...@pa.io and #atomic. This isn't something I changed;
it's how it was before I started working on Fedora Atomic.
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So for the last month, we have only two threads which were NOT automated
messages (and in the meantime, over 100 automated messages). One was Stef's
CI/CD question (which arguably should have been a Pagure issue, and could just
as
jasonbrooks added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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The atomic-specific bits of each atomic host are very close. The questions
relating to each, including things like enabling gpg sig verification or
mirroring ostree content, generally apply to both centos and fedora atomic. You
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@mattdm well, the contributors use email, so we need *something* for them to
use.
Or do we? I'm going to do an examination of traffic on cloud@. I'm willing to
bet that I'll find out that 90% of the traffic is automated
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So, thinking back to "These folks generally prefer not to use "antiquated"
media like email and IRC at all", maybe the answer is _not a mailing list at
all_? I've been thinking of spinning up Discourse instance in OpenShift (either
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Given the level of traffic on atomic@, those could be combined, frankly. And I
think it would get questions on atomic@ answered faster.
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dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> ... but what if their question is actually about rpm-ostree, or the Atomic
> CLI, once we get the details? Then we have to shunt them to another list.
> This is a bad experience for people new to the community. do you follow?
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... but what if their question is actually about rpm-ostree, or the Atomic CLI,
once we get the details? Then we have to shunt them to another list. This is
a bad experience for people new to the community. do you follow?
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dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> "if a new participant/user/fedora packager wants to start a discussion about
> Fedora Atomic, where do we direct them?"
since you asked that specific question, I would say `ato...@lists.fp.o`.
If you had asked a different
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@dustymabe, @mattdm
One question is, "if a new participant/user/fedora packager wants to start a
discussion about Fedora Atomic, where do we direct them?" If we can answer
that, we can decide what to do with the mailing lists.
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dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> I am opposed to both having a new list and especially to having a new IRC
> channel.
> Let me explain the main reason for my opposition, followed by some detail on
> IRC vs. ML.
> A lot of the container audience is new
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I don't think we want to direct all Fedora-related Atomic development
discussion to projectatomic.io -- I don't think that's very discoverable for
people in the Fedora community and will lead to confusion about 1) Fedora
Atomic Host
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I am opposed to both having a new list and especially to having a new IRC
channel.
Let me explain the main reason for my opposition, followed by some detail on
IRC vs. ML.
A lot of the container audience is new developers and
sinnykumari added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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+1 . A common place to discuss anything related to Fedora Atomic
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maxamillion added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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I'm +1 to this
Also note, that I created `ato...@lists.fedoraproject.org` months ago and
discussed it at one of the meetings but we never really moved over. It's there,
it's just "inactive" because there's been zero email to it
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+1
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+1
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Makes sense, +1
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+1
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> To clarify, does atomic @lists.fedoraproject.org actually exist now, or
> would that be a new list request? I can't find it on
> lists.fedoraproject.org, so I'm assuming the latter.
>
> it exists now but I would prefer
dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> There was a discussion before about moving Cloud Base under Server; that
> makes some sense to me. Then we could cleanly close the cloud@ list and
> really in general stop talking about Cloud, which reduces confusion.
>
dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
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> To clarify, does atomic @lists.fedoraproject.org actually exist now, or
> would that be a new list request? I can't find it on
> lists.fedoraproject.org, so I'm assuming the latter.
it exists now but I would prefer people not
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To clarify, does atomic @lists.fedoraproject.org actually exist now, or would
that be a new list request? I can't find it on lists.fedoraproject.org, so I'm
assuming the latter.
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