Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-15 Thread P J P
Hello, Today in another conversation[1], I received this feedback about Fedora cloud images. Not sure if there is bug open for this, if not, do I file one? [1] https://pjps.wordpress.com/2015/12/15/fad-singapore-2015/ +-- On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Deepak C Shetty wrote --+ | ... | How about having

Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-15 Thread Jonathan Lebon
Hi all, > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Local_Test_Cloud Interesting tool. Hadn't seen it before. I've also been working on a similar feature for the Atomic image (although it should work just fine for the Base images as well if we want). Basically, it adds a new boot menu item labeled

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 08:41:30AM +, P J P wrote: > Today in another conversation[1], I received this feedback about > Fedora cloud images. Not sure if there is bug open for this, > if not, do I file one? Hey, thanks for passing on the feedback. We basically have two answers for this. First,

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-15 Thread P J P
Hello Matthew, > On Tuesday, 15 December 2015 6:09 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Hey, thanks for passing on the feedback. We basically have two answers > for this. First, you can use Vagrant, and the provided Vagrant images. > They're basically made for this case. Or, second, you can use the > "te

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 08:41:30AM +, P J P wrote: >> Today in another conversation[1], I received this feedback about >> Fedora cloud images. Not sure if there is bug open for this, >> if not, do I file one? > > Hey, thanks for passing

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 08:36:51AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > for this. First, you can use Vagrant, and the provided Vagrant images. > > They're basically made for this case. Or, second, you can use the > > "testcloud" tool to launch the local > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Local_Test

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-15 Thread Deepak Shetty
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 08:41:30AM +, P J P wrote: > > Today in another conversation[1], I received this feedback about > > Fedora cloud images. Not sure if there is bug open for this, > > if not, do I file one? > > Hey, thanks for pass

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-15 Thread Deepak Shetty
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 08:36:51AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > for this. First, you can use Vagrant, and the provided Vagrant images. > > > They're basically made for this case. Or, second, you can use the > > > "testcloud" tool to launc

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-15 Thread Deepak Shetty
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Deepak Shetty wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 08:36:51AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> > > for this. First, you can use Vagrant, and the provided Vagrant images. >> > > They're basically made for t

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-15 Thread P J P
On Wednesday, 16 December 2015 10:03 AM, Deepak Shetty wrote: >Why not provide a image that has root or non-root user with std. passwd ? >whats the problem with that ? Default root password could become a security risk. Rarely people change such settings. It'd depend on the implementation, but ju

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-15 Thread Deepak Shetty
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM, P J P wrote: > On Wednesday, 16 December 2015 10:03 AM, Deepak Shetty wrote: > >Why not provide a image that has root or non-root user with std. passwd ? > >whats the problem with that ? > > > Default root password could become a security risk. Rarely people chan

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-15 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Deepak Shetty wrote: > Also since cloud image is the most downloaded one, how about > providing a .iso file with pre-loaded user/passwd, so that people > willing to use cloud-image in non-cloud env (local, virt-mgr etc) can use > the iso file as the cloud-init dat

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 09:59:54AM +0530, Deepak Shetty wrote: > Vagrant is fine, but there are instances where one needs to be as > close to reality than the abstraction / layering added by Vagrant. I > would want to use it directly either using the qemu cmd line or > virsh/virt-* tools which is m

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:03:46AM +0530, Deepak Shetty wrote: > Why not provide a image that has root or non-root user with std. passwd ? > whats the problem with that ? Security team told us in no uncertain terms to not to. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader __

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:59:41AM -0500, Jonathan Lebon wrote: > I've also been working on a similar feature for the Atomic > image (although it should work just fine for the Base images > as well if we want). Basically, it adds a new boot menu item > labeled "Developer Mode" (working title ;) ).

Re: Fedora cloud image feedback

2015-12-16 Thread Tim Flink
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 09:59:54 +0530 Deepak Shetty wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 08:41:30AM +, P J P wrote: > > > Today in another conversation[1], I received this feedback about > > > Fedora cloud images. Not sure if there is