Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
Hello all, It strikes me as odd that the Fedora 21 cloud images are hidden behind the Are you an OpenStack user? link on https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/. It seems as if libvirt users would also like to use the qcow2 images (100% of my sample audience -- consisting of me -- agrees with

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Cole Robinson
On 12/09/2014 11:20 AM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: Hello all, It strikes me as odd that the Fedora 21 cloud images are hidden behind the Are you an OpenStack user? link on https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/. It seems as if libvirt users would also like to use the qcow2 images (100% of

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 11:24:29AM -0500, Cole Robinson wrote: The images expect cloud-init to set the root password, right? So unless it's documented how to work around that, we shouldn't advertise for anything but a cloud environment. I'm not sure I understand your comment...this is the

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Cole Robinson
On 12/09/2014 11:38 AM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 11:24:29AM -0500, Cole Robinson wrote: The images expect cloud-init to set the root password, right? So unless it's documented how to work around that, we shouldn't advertise for anything but a cloud environment. I'm

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Vitaly Kuznetsov
Cole Robinson crobi...@redhat.com writes: On 12/09/2014 11:20 AM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: Hello all, It strikes me as odd that the Fedora 21 cloud images are hidden behind the Are you an OpenStack user? link on https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/. It seems as if libvirt users

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Cole Robinson
On 12/09/2014 11:47 AM, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote: Cole Robinson crobi...@redhat.com writes: On 12/09/2014 11:20 AM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: Hello all, It strikes me as odd that the Fedora 21 cloud images are hidden behind the Are you an OpenStack user? link on

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Yeah - that bothered me too. But I think Atomic is so young and the competitive environment is so fluid right now that I'm willing to do some digging. Now that the release is out there needs to be a focus on *practical* use cases for the cloud products, preferably with solid reference accounts /

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 12/09/2014 10:49 AM, Cole Robinson wrote: Right, but none of the common end user tools like boxes or virt-manager/virt-install (or raw libvirt, or qemu) will do that for you. So something would still need to be documented It's been documented-ish but we do need to be louder about it. It

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014, at 01:05 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: It's been documented-ish but we do need to be louder about it. It would also be awesome if virt-manager handled cloud-init too, the use an ISO to provide cloud-init info is a little clunky. If anyone's curious, I was trying to argue that

Re: Fedora cloud qcow2 images

2014-12-09 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/09/2014 10:49 AM, Cole Robinson wrote: Right, but none of the common end user tools like boxes or virt-manager/virt-install (or raw libvirt, or qemu) will do that for you. So something would still need to be