[Cloud] Re: [Cloud-announce] Updated WMCS terms of use

2023-06-07 Thread Maciej Jaros
AntiCompositeNumber (2023-06-06 01:01): In case it was unclear: I do not intentionally store usernames. The Toolforge infrastructure, in its default configuration, stores usernames. To my knowledge storing IP addresses and URLs (typical access logs) is fine, because it is required by some

[Cloud] Re: [Cloud-announce] Updated WMCS terms of use

2023-06-05 Thread AntiCompositeNumber
In case it was unclear: I do not intentionally store usernames. The Toolforge infrastructure, in its default configuration, stores usernames. Toolforge also does not provide tools to easily clean up logs. This is not an individual developer problem. AntiCompositeNumber (he/him) On Mon, Jun 5,

[Cloud] Re: [Cloud-announce] Updated WMCS terms of use

2023-06-05 Thread Maciej Jaros
AntiCompositeNumber (2023-05-27 05:29): I am disappointed that these Terms went into effect immediately, without any chance for review or comment by the community. This is counter to how Wikimedia processes should run, and flies in the face of the values of the Wikimedia movement. I am

[Cloud] Re: [Cloud-announce] Updated WMCS terms of use

2023-06-02 Thread AntiCompositeNumber
I'm sorry, but that response is unacceptable. The resources of volunteer developers are also limited. Enacting an unclear policy without recent consultation with the groups affected places an unreasonable burden on the volunteers WMCS exists to serve. AntiCompositeNumber (he/him) On Fri, Jun 2,

[Cloud] Re: [Cloud-announce] Updated WMCS terms of use

2023-06-02 Thread Andrew Bogott
Xover, ACN, and others, I’m sorry for my slow response – much of the WMCS staff was off for some of this week. In 2016 there was an initial public consultation about new terms of use[0]. The fact that we only now have a document to show for it should give you an idea of how difficult this

[Cloud] Re: [Cloud-announce] Updated WMCS terms of use

2023-05-27 Thread xover
I agree with ACN's points, especially the lack of community review and discussion. For example, in section 4.1 on prohibited uses it refers to "Do not break the law", but fails to specify which law, so as written it applies to all laws anywhere enacted by a competent legislative body.

[Cloud] Re: [Cloud-announce] Updated WMCS terms of use

2023-05-26 Thread AntiCompositeNumber
I am disappointed that these Terms went into effect immediately, without any chance for review or comment by the community. This is counter to how Wikimedia processes should run, and flies in the face of the values of the Wikimedia movement. I am concerned about some of the provisions of these