Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Russ & Melody
What do you mean by "old"? My boat machine is a Thinkpad T-42 and travels in a Pelican case. It was the carbon fibre gear to land on the race boat :) Interesting, the second piece of carbon fibre gear to come onto the race boat was the skipper's knee brace! Cheers, Russ Swe

Re: Stus-List Mystic Seaport Rendezvous

2012-09-21 Thread paul . fountain
Wisj we were there!  Sent from my Samsung Galaxy TabEdd Schillay wrote:Listers, Can't say enough how amazing it is to be here in Mystic CT sharing a pier with so many C&C's and meeting all the wonderful people. Looking forward even more to tomorrow spending time with them and meeting Rob Ba

Stus-List Mystic Seaport Rendezvous

2012-09-21 Thread Edd Schillay
Listers, Can't say enough how amazing it is to be here in Mystic CT sharing a pier with so many C&C's and meeting all the wonderful people. Looking forward even more to tomorrow spending time with them and meeting Rob Ball. Just don't mention to the boat in front of us Phasers are locked.

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Leslie Paal
You can get serial-port to USB converters, about 15-20$.  They work just fine, I used them to connect older instrumentation to laptops in the DSN.  There are even USB to parallel port converters too Leslie. Phoenix, 1983 C&C32 Alamitos Bay CA. From: Freder

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe
GLL (GPS lat/lon) is common to 1.5 and 2.0. You might get it to work. I was having issues with not enough voltage on the NMEA line to drive my computer, VHF, and two APRS units, so I bought one of these https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=8630 and have had no problems since then. About $150

Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Alex Giannelia
Now that summer is over and I am still getting stuff finished to be able to launch, I'll be happy when I can be on a boat with NO ACCESS TO AND FROM THE DIGITAL UNIVERSE and feel the wind blow through my hair and the waves lift my butt. Back to the basics I say My .02 worth, have a good we

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Prime Interest
I have a serial-to-USB adapter which I've used for some basic testing . I have a DB9 female side which I have alligator clips wired on the pins to attach to the NMEA wires of interest. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?keywords=seri al+usb You can use a basic te

Re: Stus-List 2012 World Farr 40

2012-09-21 Thread Walt Dickie
We went out and joined the small spectator fleet yesterday. Sailing along the edges of the course, we saw westerly winds between 6 and 23 kts with oscillating shifts in the 20 degree range and the occasional 45 degree shift as a big gust came through from the south. The big waves from the winds

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe
I keep old IBM ThinkPads around for boat duty ;) Joe Della Barba From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:52 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0 Really,

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Frederick G Street
Really, when was the last time anyone saw a new laptop with a serial port? :^) Although I am a dyed-in-the-wool Mac guy, I keep an ancient HP/Compaq Windows XP machine around just because it has a real serial port on it... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe
I use hyperterminal. FYI if you have 7: http://brianshowto.com/?p=35 Joe Della Barba From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Bill Coleman
A laptop, yes, but what would program would the show anything in? Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:17 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: S

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Usually the voltage being too LOW is the issue or bad ground continuity. Have you tried a laptop? Use the serial port and read the data directly to see what you have got. You can also get NMEA emulators to inject "fake" data into the system. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-li

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Bill Coleman
This looks like good stuff. I will be stopping off at Radio Shack this evening. I had searched through there, but I never found that particular post, good find. Whoops, no, I searched cruisers forums, not sailnet. The NMEA voltage bounces as high, I think, (bad memory) 6 or 7 V, and everyone I

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Bill Coleman
I hear ya! And I would pitch it were it not for 2 things, 1, the exotic custom Binnacle / Plotter case of SS with hand holds, and 2, the incredible agony of running those wires through tiny tubes and cramped spaces. Especially this part. Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 From

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Steve Thomas
Sometimes a simple pull up resistor makes a difference too. Used to be pretty common on high speed busses. I can't seem to locate the link right now, but I recall an article that said one was necessary to get the GX2100 to interface with certain brands of equipment. Wouldn't be surprising given t

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Usually you can use single-ended. My GPS, AIS unit, VHF and APRS gear all use single-ended data connections. The computer is supposed to be differential but seems to read the + and ground signal just fine. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-l

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Steve Thomas
Seems there is an electrical difference between 0183 1.xx and 0183 2.xx and later versions. The 1.xx versions are single ended, signal and ground, while the 2.xx and later have differential + and - signal wires and should have a separate ground/shield. Funny thing is that the GX2150 does not hav

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Frederick G Street
True -- but it works... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Sep 21, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Joel Aronson wrote: > I'm amazed that we are talking about 30 year old technology! This is stuff > from the dial-up era!

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Joel Aronson
I'm amazed that we are talking about 30 year old technology! This is stuff from the dial-up era! I can hear modems screeching as I read this thread! Joel On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Bill Coleman wrote: > Holy information overload, batman! > > ** ** > > Bill Coleman > > C&C 39 [

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Frederick G Street
Bill take a look at this PDF, starting with page 9: http://www.actisense.com/Downloads/TechTalk/NMEA%200183/The%20NMEA%200183%20Information%20Sheet.pdf This might help. In my experience, sometimes there are issues with what gets labeled "input" vs. "output", as well as data + and – or ground; b

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe
I have 4 right now. If they are *true* NMEA listeners with opto-isolators on the input they should be basically no load at all. Not all mine are, so I had issues with one GPS not being able to drive them all. The GPS 17 from Garmin has no problem with them :) Joe Della Barba From: cnc-list-bou

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Bill Coleman
Holy information overload, batman! Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 11:19 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Bill Coleman
Hello Steve, This tech was pretty sharp, he was not reading from the manual - it is a 2003, so I believe him when he says it is 1.5 There also is no mention at all of versions, let alone Baud rates, , he said it was 4800, period. The only thing I can adjust in the setup is turning sentences on an

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Frederick G Street
Well, maybe not as many listeners as you want; typically, NMEA says you can use up to three, and that's a pretty safe limit in my experience. Getting GPS data from the RL80CRC shouldn't be an issue at 4800 baud; but the AIS info from the radio WILL NOT be recognized by the RL80CRC; I'm not sure

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe
http://gpsd.berlios.de/NMEA.txt FYI Joe Della Barba From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 11:17 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0 Also make sure all th

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Also make sure all the speed/parity settings match. If memory serves, the standard is 4800 8N1 no flow control. Remember - only ONE talker on the line and as many listeners as you want. Joe Della Barba From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Steve

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Steve Thomas
Bill, I think that the Raymarine techie may have mis-read page 8-30 of the RL80CRC manual. It refers to a 1.5 metre NMEA cable, not NMEA version 1.5. "The 1.5 m NMEA OUT cable has a ferrite clamp attached to ensure EMC conformance." Anyway, take a look at the sentences available in append

Stus-List 2012 World Farr 40

2012-09-21 Thread Helen Abbott
For those interested, there are some great 3 and 4 minute videos on the Farr 40 class web site from this past week in Chicago...local boat, Flash Gordon 6 won. Spinnaker exploding, great skyline shots, etc..no end for end jibes on these machines. http://regattanews.com/gallery.aspx?eid=207

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Prime Interest
If your older chartplotter was able to support AIS sentences ( !AIVDM: ) a multiplexer could remediate the baudrate for you but now you would have to be careful as not to lose input data. In my cruising ground of Lake Ontario, with the few number of AIS targets, it would keep up with only minor occ

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0- multiplexer

2012-09-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe
AN USB device designed to connect to a HOST (i.e a computer) cannot connect to another device ALSO expecting to be connected to a host - like a GPS. Joe Della Barba From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Prime Interest Sent: Friday, September 21

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0- multiplexer

2012-09-21 Thread Prime Interest
An interesting thought - the mux would usually expect the USB to be connected to a computer with drivers and software but maybe this would work. I assume that power is not supplied out of the multiplexer as it is normally expected to be connected to a computer . additionally power to the multiplexe

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Bill Coleman
Agreed, my understanding is that I need at least 2.0 to provide that sentence. The techie from Raymarine told me that My Chartplotter was NMEA 1.5 and the radio would not read anything below 2.0, thus the problem. I can buy a separate antenna from Standard to solve that problem, but I already hav

Re: Stus-List final spinnaker questions

2012-09-21 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Joel 15-20. Same numbers here for tommorrow. Multi purpose numbers too. 15-20 knots of wind AND 15-20 mm of rain A wonderful day Mike Nut Case -Original Message- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Thursday, Sept

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0 - interfacing NMEA users

2012-09-21 Thread Dennis C.
I have the GX2150 interfaced to a Standard Horizon CP190i on Touche'.  Interface was straightforward.  GPS data appears on VHF.  AIS targets appear on GPS.Friend of mine just interfaced an Icom AIS receiver with a Garmin chartplotter.  It wasn't straightforward.  I think he had to delete or redesig

Stus-List Radar radome position

2012-09-21 Thread Blair Clark
In regardss to mounting radar radome positions after having done an extensive refit and mounting my Garmin radome on the mast with a self levelling mount I would advise to use a back stay or aft pole mounted position. Why, When sailing offshore I now appreciate the need to keep clean and clear

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe
It isn't the version - it is the sentences. http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/nmea.htm#nmea You need the GPS to output a sentence the radio can read. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK 1 www.dellabarba.com CRYC From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Ver.1.5 to 3.0

2012-09-21 Thread Steve Thomas
I have been seriously considering getting one of those radios myself. The GX2150 documentation suggests that you should be able to configure it get GPS data from an NMEA 0183 source into the radio without a converter, if that is all you are trying to do. If you are planning to use an external di

Re: Stus-List chartplotter/radar

2012-09-21 Thread Chuck S
Danny, I don't have radar, but have researched the project for my boat. Here's a few thoughts I have: Boatshows offer free training to read the radar screen, and I would recommend you check out several brands before choosing. Radar displays can be very confusing as the blip from a boat, a buoy