Re: Stus-List Insurance issues

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Wow. Does that include racing? -Original Message- From: Leslie Paal via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:02 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Leslie Paal Subject: Re: Stus-List Insurance issues well, my boat is only 32 feet, and been insured with Allstate without any

Re: Stus-List Insurance issues

2018-02-07 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List
well, my boat is only 32 feet, and been insured with Allstate without any questions. I did not have any claim so far (10+ years) and my last premium was $180 (about) with good coverage (inc. full value, extras, spill, 3rd party, etc.) Leslie Phoenix C 1983

Re: Stus-List Sail Changeover for 29 mk1

2018-02-07 Thread Ted Drossos via CnC-List
When I raced my 29-2 I would change from a 155% to either a 125% or 135% when sustained apparent wind was 20 knots or greater. There was a 29-1 in our fleet who had to shorten sail sooner than us. I sold my boat and have two racing headsails available if anyone is interested . They are 100% and

Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Michael Cotton via CnC-List
Very well put! On Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 7:05:29 PM EST, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote: Thanks for clarifying things, Bill – and sorry for apparently causing exasperation. Time to beat the dead horse: For those who understand what’s going on, it

Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Thanks for clarifying things, Bill – and sorry for apparently causing exasperation. Time to beat the dead horse: For those who understand what’s going on, it is not that complicated. For those who do not, it is both complicated and confusing. For example, your interpretation of the first

Re: Stus-List Sail Changeover for 29 Mk1

2018-02-07 Thread Francois Rivard via CnC-List
Hi Jim, Sounds like a great plan. I'm looking forward to hearing your comments about the new sail. Have fun with the projects! -Francois 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, GA On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Jim Giffing wrote: > Thanks for the comments all!!! > > At

Re: Stus-List Sail Changeover for 29 Mk1

2018-02-07 Thread Jim Giffing via CnC-List
Thanks for the comments all!!! At minimum I am sure to have my wife crew with me - she is a willing and experienced crew. Sadly both my boys are living in Michigan now so neither of them nor their sig others are around

Re: Stus-List Sail Changeover for 29 Mk1

2018-02-07 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Francois, Thanks for a very thorough response. I learn from your observations, always. We need to get together for a double handed race n the Chesapeake. Jim, younger crew are harder and harder to find. My all-time best crew of 2012 went to college and graduated and one is a sales rep

Stus-List Sail Changeover for 29 Mk1

2018-02-07 Thread Francois Rivard via CnC-List
I sail a 34+, not a 29 but here's what I was told by my sail maker who was the guy beat in the phrf cruiser class for many years on the lake. For what it's worth: For racing in light wind conditions (10 and under) , especially beer can racing the 150 - 155 gennies are gold, you get great power

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Two years ago I used a fancy Allwood product (I’ll get the name) based on a write-in comment that appeared in Practical Sailor. I followed the instructions, including application of a primer coat, and everything looked great. This past spring, after a particularly cold winter, I noticed that

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-07 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
My outside teak is natural weathered right now. Teak oil was a complete waste of time on exterior wood and the 2-part “cleaner” does WAY more damage than just leaving it alone. Joe Della Barba DCSI 410-966-7255 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-07 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I used teak oil on the toe rails of my previous boat. I religiously oiled them every few months. After a few months, they looked like crap. On Touche' I use Cetol. Five coats Cetol Marine followed by three coats Cetol Gloss. Then a coat of Cetol gloss twice a year. Over ten years in the

Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I meant to add that you’re a good one – definitely a compliment. From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 12:03 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation I’m not

Re: Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-07 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
I had a pretty good test of that in the past year. Last offseason I replaced Grenadine’s exterior cabintop teak handrails with new ones fabricated by my buddy Jerrod Milton. I finished the new ones (and the teak piece under the traveler) with five coats of Cetol Marine Natural Teak followed

Stus-List Sail Changeover for 29 Mk1

2018-02-07 Thread Jim Giffing via CnC-List
David: Sailing on the Chesapeake... lots of 10Kt and below days during the season. Also getting this hopefully for potential club racing. For casual sailing I will use an older 130 or a plain jib. And with a foil and dual halyards, change over is really not so bad... but then I am getting older

Stus-List Exterior Teak

2018-02-07 Thread Brien Sadler via CnC-List
My exterior teak is starting to show signs of wear and it's time to refinish it. It looks as though it has been varnished in the past but was wondering if anyone has just used teak oil on their exterior wood. Looking for recommendations. Brien Sadler S/V TAZ C 35-3

Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
It's a compliment, wear it proudly! Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River: Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List To:

Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Fairly good analysis, Matthew As a 30 year regulatory professional, terminology is critical. Documented and registered are two entirely different concepts. USCG "documentation" is a very formal thing. It is analogous to placing the mortgage for your house with a clerk of court. All liens,

Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
This is true in all 50 states because it is a FEDERAL law. What the sentence means is that the boat must not display state registration numbers if it is documented. That is what they mean by "identified". This is not to say that states cannot require you to register the boat. They just cannot

Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
I’m not sure if that’s a compliment or not… :^) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sea%20lawyer — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Feb 7, 2018, at

Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Good catch, Fred. But my boat is identified as both State registered and Federally documented. I have State registered decals port and starboard and no numbers on the bow (State requirement), and the name of the boat and hailing port in 4 inch letters on the transom (federal requirement). If

Re: Stus-List Sail Changeover for 29 Mk1

2018-02-07 Thread David via CnC-List
Do you really need a 155%? Think of prevailing wind speeds, use, crew and PIA factor (changing headsails is not always fun)... David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) From: CnC-List on behalf of Jim Giffing via CnC-List

Stus-List Sail Changeover for 29 Mk1

2018-02-07 Thread Jim Giffing via CnC-List
Hi 29’ers I am in the process of buying new 155 genny as the one the boat (mark 1) when I bought it was trash and truly not useable. So really I have no experience with it. The sailmaker is asking me when do I change over... at what windspeed? Given the tenderness of the boat I was thinking 10

Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Matthew — as the BoatUS article is talking about graphics, I read the line in question below (“vessel may only be identified…”) to mean that the vessel should adhere to either state labeling standards if NOT documented, or federal labeling standards if it IS documented. So you should NOT have

Re: Stus-List insurance

2018-02-07 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
OK so after this very enlightening thread, I decided to do a bit of shopping around. I got a quote from the Gowrie Group (underwritten by New Hampshire Insurance Company) with a premium of $403. But it had a sail & spar exclusion, which can only be removed by getting a professional inspection

Re: Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I reviewed the first two bullet points from the BoatUS recital, and at least in PA they are not (or may not) be correct: a.. Vessels may only be identified as either a State Registered Vessel or a Federally Documented Vessel - NOT BOTH. Not true in PA. There is a difference between

Re: Stus-List in the water Head Maintenance question

2018-02-07 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
When I swapped out a seacock in the water I swam under the boat and shoved a wooden plug in. Might be cold this time of year! Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:11 AM To:

Re: Stus-List Emergency tiller for the CnC 35 mk2

2018-02-07 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Pro Tip: Get it made longer than the stock one C gave out and put a hinge in it. I found my tiller was about a foot short and half a foot low of where it would be most comfortable to use. I haven't used it in ages, but before the autopilot was installed I would sail with the tiller in the rain

Re: Stus-List in the water Head Maintenance question

2018-02-07 Thread Daniel Cormier via CnC-List
Thanks- I have one just in case Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 7, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List > wrote: > > Its always good to have a wooden plug available in case the seacock does not > close all the way. Learned that the hard way! > >> On Wed, Feb 7,

Re: Stus-List in the water Head Maintenance question

2018-02-07 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Its always good to have a wooden plug available in case the seacock does not close all the way. Learned that the hard way! On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Daniel Cormier via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I should also mention that my discharge hose has a vented loop that > appears

Re: Stus-List in the water Head Maintenance question

2018-02-07 Thread Daniel Cormier via CnC-List
Ok, that's what I was thinking... I do have a loop. Thanks :) Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 7, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List > wrote: > > Dan, > > There should be a loop in the discharge hose that goes above the water line. > If you have the loop there

Re: Stus-List in the water Head Maintenance question

2018-02-07 Thread Daniel Cormier via CnC-List
I should also mention that my discharge hose has a vented loop that appears to be above the waterline... also, there is a valve to discharge to my holding tank, but it's currently set to discharge out (I have 2 heads) - I'm more concerned with how the toilet reacts to having the sea water

Re: Stus-List in the water Head Maintenance question

2018-02-07 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Dan, There should be a loop in the discharge hose that goes above the water line. If you have the loop there is nothing to worry about. Joel On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:45 AM, Daniel Cormier via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hey everyone, so want to replace some worn plumbing coming

Stus-List in the water Head Maintenance question

2018-02-07 Thread Daniel Cormier via CnC-List
Hey everyone, so want to replace some worn plumbing coming from the seacock that leads to my marine head. Normally to do head maintenance you have to close both the r/w intake and discharge sea cocks but in my case the discharge sea cock is seized open... (will deal with it when boat is hauled

Stus-List Recent discussion regarding Federal v. State Boat Documentation

2018-02-07 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hello All, Given the discussion that came up the other day regarding boat documentation, you may want to see the link below posted by Boat U.S. Boat Documentation Requirements - BoatUS Graphics | | | | || | | | | | Boat Documentation Requirements - BoatUS Graphics

Re: Stus-List Emergency tiller for the CnC 35 mk2

2018-02-07 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
You could also try South Shore Yachts: http://southshoreyachts.com/ From: Jeremy Johnston via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 6:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeremy Johnston Subject: Stus-List Emergency tiller for the CnC 35 mk2 Good evening everyone, I'm new to email

Re: Stus-List Emergency tiller for the CnC 35 mk2

2018-02-07 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
Jeremy, You've got it right about the emergency tiller, it has a square end fitting, split on one side with a bolt to clamp it on the stock, and an aluminum tiller. A shop should be able to fab one for you. I would suspect the 35-2 has the same size rudder stock as my 35-1 but to be sure