Stus-List Freya Keel work 35-3

2020-08-27 Thread David Swensen via CnC-List
Fellow listers, I have moved Freya to my backyard and started work on the keel hull joint. She has on the hard for about 4 weeks. I opened up thekeel hull joint and have raised the hull a few inches. The forward bolt is still draining ( and it smells?). The most aft bolt is the one that was leaki

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2020-08-27 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Try Vaseline on the bolt From: CnC-List On Behalf Of David Swensen via CnC-List Sent: August 27, 2020 3:11 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Swensen Subject: Stus-List Freya Keel work 35-3 Fellow listers, I have moved Freya to my backyard and started work on the keel hull joint. She

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2020-08-27 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
d Swensen via CnC-List > > > *Sent:* August 27, 2020 3:11 PM > > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > *Cc:* David Swensen > > > *Subject:* Stus-List Freya Keel work 35-3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > &g

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2020-08-27 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
You should separate the boat from the keel. When I had mine done, there was a huge void around the forward keel bolt. The yard hosed out the hole from underneath, and it smelled really bad. Then they ground the stub and the top of the keel, epoxied the keel back onto the stub and filled the void wi

Re: Stus-List Freya Keel work 35-3

2020-08-27 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Plenty of detail on keel work here- mine and others. https://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/p/c-33-mk-ii-keel-and-mast-step-work.html?m=1 I think any sense epoxy/glass would be fine to replace the wedges. You can also use ‘tack tape’ reversed to protect the bolts. One advantage of this vs wax i

Re: Stus-List Freya Keel work 35-3

2020-08-27 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
I had no voids and I did not separate the hull and keel, but this would have made excavating the filled part much easier, in addition to being able to address the keel to hull joint. I would reassemble prior to adding any compression posts and refilling the keel void of course. Wrap the joint

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2020-08-27 Thread Bruno Lachance via CnC-List
tc. Hope that helps, best of luck. Bruno Lachance Bécassine, 1987 33-2 New-Richmond, Qc De : CnC-List de la part de David Swensen via CnC-List Envoyé : 27 août 2020 14:10 À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc : David Swensen Objet : Stus-List Freya Keel work

Re: Stus-List Freya Keel work 35-3

2020-08-27 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
Don't use epoxy/glass to replace the wedges. There's tremendous pressure on them when the keep bolts are tightened, and they won't hold up. Have them made out of stainless. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 2:31 PM Dave S via CnC-List wrote: > Ple

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2020-08-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Alan, Epoxy and glass is a bit different than G10 (which is technically fiberglass and epoxy.) The rated compression and deflection strength are competitive with any other material. Especially when you get to the 1/2 inch thickness. No? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On T

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2020-08-28 Thread David Swensen via CnC-List
Wow. You guys are awesome. Great info. Dave S, Your blog will be my bible over the next couple of months. I get the impression I should rebed the keel hull joint before addressing the mast step cavity. But I should drill into that cavity to accelerate the draining/ drying first? Each time I raise

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2020-08-28 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
I should be clearer - By epoxy glass I mean a dense layup vs filled putty. That said I don’t know the deflection data For each material etc etc etc but I do know that my 33-2 wedges are not used on all the bolts and where not, the compression bears on the layup via a fender washer. This sugg

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2020-08-28 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Thanks for your kind words and to Bruno for his but that write up and solution is based on the help I received from others on this list (referred to and quoted on the blog) who had addressed the problem before I did. All I did was document that and my own variations on their themes. Credit

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2020-08-28 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
I have heard of one case where concrete was used to fill the void under the mast step On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:55 AM Dave S via CnC-List wrote: > I should be clearer - By epoxy glass I mean a dense layup vs filled > putty. That said I don’t know the deflection data For each material etc > et

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2020-08-28 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
bolted it up and it has been great for over a year. Gary 30-1 From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Dave S via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:55 AM To: Josh Muckley Cc: Dave S ; C&C List Subject: Re: Stus-List Freya Keel work 35-3 I should be clearer - By epoxy glass I mean a d