Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-30 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-30 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
transmission housing, because it is aluminium(?) and the plug is steel). He probably gave up after only 50 min. Marek From: Jim Watts via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 21:16 To: 1 CnC List Cc: Jim Watts Subject: Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change My Kanzaki gearbox has a drain

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-30 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change Try this one instead. I hate the internet. http://i.imgur.com/BaiDYxU.jpg Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Lee via CnC-List
-Original Message- From: Jim Watts via CnC-List To: 1 CnC List Cc: Jim Watts Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2016 9:18 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change Try this one instead. I hate the internet. http://i.imgur.com/BaiDYxU.jpg Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
Try this one instead. I hate the internet. http://i.imgur.com/BaiDYxU.jpg Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC > > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
My Kanzaki gearbox has a drain. 3GM30F. I know because it cost me a lot of money to have the tranny pulled just so they could helicoil the drain plug that some prior idiot had stripped and "fixed" with goop. That was a very fortunate morning that I decided to check under the engine before a long pa

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread BillBinaList via CnC-List
The manufacturer says single weight, either 20# or 30#. So, if you are in the Arctic circle, or somewhere so cold that heavier oil affects shifting or slippage, use straight 20#. Elsewhere, use straight 30#. https://www.yanmar.com/media/global/com/product/marinepleasure/sailBoatPropulsion/opera

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread BillBinaList via CnC-List
Multi-viscosity oils may not behave properly in a transmission or other mechanical device that calls for a single weight oil. Gearboxes are not engines. In most cases, in devices calling for a single weight oil, there will be other stipulations such as non-detergent, as well. I sure would not "

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
ay, November 29, 2016 2:06 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Joel Aronson *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change Mike, I think it means either straight 20 or 30 weight. Joel On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Thanks

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Persuasion37 via CnC-List
f Joel >> Aronson via CnC-List >> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 2:06 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: Joel Aronson >> >> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change >> >> >> Mike, I think it means either strai

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
hten us? > > > > Mike > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel > Aronson via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2016 2:06 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Joel Aronson > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Kanzak

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:36 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change > > > > Check the correct oil. It can be ATF or motor oil. Usually, there is a > (reddish) label on top or the side o

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
edzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change Check the correct oil. It can be ATF or motor oil. Usually, there is a (reddish) label on top or the side of the transmission. Also, check how much you sucked out. It is very easy to overfill. Mine (Hurth 50) takes .7 l of ATF. Marek

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
re > > > > I am assuming SAE 20/30 means 10W30? > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Marek > Dziedzic via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:36 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change Check the correct oil. It can be ATF or motor oil. Usually, there is a (reddish) label on top or the side of the transmission. Also, check how much you sucked out. It is very easy to overfill. Mine (Hurth

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
: Persuasion37 via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 09:24 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Persuasion37 Subject: Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change That's the way I do it. Check for correct fluid type. Mine takes ATF. - .7 litres. A little less because it's hard to vac

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Martin Kane via CnC-List
Regarding filling the transmission, the Yanmar manual states" Check the clutch case level without screwing in the cap" Martin C&C 29-2 Recalculating ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribut

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread robert via CnC-List
Mike: Same set up as mine.no drain plug in the engine (Yanmar 2GMF) and no drain plug in the Kanzaki transmission. I use a Pella suction pump to remove the oil from both..down the dipstick hole.changed the oil in my Kanzaki this Fall.it uses the same motor oil as the engine,

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Persuasion37 via CnC-List
That's the way I do it. Check for correct fluid type. Mine takes ATF. - .7 litres. A little less because it's hard to vacuum all of the fluid out. Mike PERSUASION C&C 37 K/CB Long Sault > On Nov 29, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List > wrote: > > HI > > Persistence has Yanmar 3GM3

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List
Maryann Legacy III 1982 C&C 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 8:31 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change HI Persistence

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Yes. I suck out both my oil and tranny fluid. Regardless of whether or not there is a drain, I've never looked since I wouldn't really be able to make use of it anyway. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 29, 2016 7:32 AM, "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" wrote: > HI > > > > P

Stus-List Kanzaki transmission oil change

2016-11-29 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
HI Persistence has Yanmar 3GM30F with Kanzaki KM3P transmission. The filler and dipstick cap is accessible on the top and I think there is a drain plug on the side somewhere that is far less accessible. My current thoughts are that I should be able to drain the transmission oil from the fille

Stus-List kanzaki transmission

2016-10-08 Thread robert via CnC-List
Also have a kanzaki which uses motor oil.same as Natefill to line only with plug fully threaded all the way down. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax,N.S. On 2016-10-07 7:43 PM, Nate Personal via CnC-List wrote: For my kanzaki fill to line only, threaded all the way in Nate Sent fro

Re: Stus-List kanzaki transmission

2016-10-07 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Subject: Stus-List kanzaki transmission So I need to ask a rookie question – I’m replacing the tranny oil and the dipstick has one line on it. Do I refill only up to that line? Can I go over? Is the plug for the dipstick threaded all the way down for reading level? I dug through the service

Re: Stus-List kanzaki transmission

2016-10-07 Thread Persuasion37 via CnC-List
To the line screwed down. My manual states .7 litres. Mike PERSUASION C&C 37 K/CB Long Sault > On Oct 7, 2016, at 6:22 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List > wrote: > > So I need to ask a rookie question – I’m replacing the tranny oil and the > dipstick has one line on it. Do I refill only up

Re: Stus-List kanzaki transmission

2016-10-07 Thread David Platt via CnC-List
I was told overfilling the Kansaki transmission was a bad thing by my mechanic this summer. On 2016-10-07 06:43 PM, Nate Personal via CnC-List wrote: For my kanzaki fill to line only, threaded all the way in Nate Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2016, at 17:22, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List mai

Re: Stus-List kanzaki transmission

2016-10-07 Thread Nate Personal via CnC-List
For my kanzaki fill to line only, threaded all the way in Nate Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2016, at 17:22, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List > wrote: > > So I need to ask a rookie question – I’m replacing the tranny oil and the > dipstick has one line on it. Do I refill only up to that line?

Stus-List kanzaki transmission

2016-10-07 Thread Pete Shelquist via CnC-List
So I need to ask a rookie question – I’m replacing the tranny oil and the dipstick has one line on it. Do I refill only up to that line? Can I go over? Is the plug for the dipstick threaded all the way down for reading level? I dug through the service manual and have found nothing on this.

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse

2016-06-10 Thread Dave via CnC-List
09 Jun 2016 19:01:13 -0700 From: Russ & Melody To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Hi Dave, For most marine gearboxes the output flange b

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse

2016-06-09 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hi Dave, For most marine gearboxes the output flange bearing is a thrust bearing. There to take up the shaft thrust fore and aft. Try to move that output flange forward or back, it will seem like it's stuck fast. discalimer about some nimrod not attempting this while engine is running>

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse

2016-06-09 Thread Dave Syer via CnC-List
e rotates in fwd and neutral, not in reverse. Dave Message: 3 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 07:43:40 -0400 From: Gary Russell To: "C&C List" Subject: Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing?

2016-06-09 Thread Garry Cross via CnC-List
, the drag should be reduced somewhat as opposed to having it not spin. Regards. Garry Cross 1974 CC35-II CBYC, Toronto. -- Forwarded message -- From: Joel Aronson To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Cc: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:17:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Stus-List Kanzaki

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing?

2016-06-09 Thread Aliant via CnC-List
Our Westerbeke manual recommends transmission in the neutral position, but goes on to say that leaving it in the forward position will not damage the engine. Wayne Anstey Resilience 1974 C&C 30 mk1 Sent from my iPad > On Jun 9, 2016, at 10:18 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List > wrote: >

Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing?

2016-06-09 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
+ 1 on reverse while sailing specifically for folding or feathering props. If you leave it in neutral or forward it will freewheel and keep it from folding. I don't know exactly why it still freewheels in forward but I do know it does. As for fixed props, Yanmar is very specific: Adviso

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing?

2016-06-09 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
, rapid clutch wear, and premature > transmission rebuild. > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary > Russell via CnC-List > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:49 AM > *To:* C&C List > *Cc:* Gary Russell > *Subject:* Re:

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing? Confusion reigns...

2016-06-08 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
t > To: cnc-list > Cc: Rick Brass > Sent: Wed, Jun 8, 2016 1:10 pm > Subject: Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while > sailing? > > The point is that the engine and any gears in the transmission are not > turning, but the prop shaft will be rotating

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing? Confusion reigns...

2016-06-08 Thread Richard N. Bush via CnC-List
-- From: Rick Brass via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: Rick Brass Sent: Wed, Jun 8, 2016 1:10 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing? The point is that the engine and any gears in the transmission are not turning, but the prop shaft will be rotating in th

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing?

2016-06-08 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
: C&C List Cc: Gary Russell Subject: Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing? How can a transmission in reverse (gears not turning) cause wear? I'm dumb-founded. Gary S/V Kaylarah ~~~_/)~~ On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Joel Aronso

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing?

2016-06-08 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
How can a transmission in reverse (gears not turning) cause wear? I'm dumb-founded. Gary S/V Kaylarah ~~~_/)~~ On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Advisory Number: MSA08-003: > > DATE February 8, 2008 Dealers and OEMs > TO: All M

Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing?

2016-06-08 Thread robert via CnC-List
Seems to be two opinions on this.one is 'neutral' and the other is in 'reverse'. If mine is in 'neutral' the fixed two blade prop spins and I can hear it..obviously the spinning of the prop causes the gears in the transmission to spin. Since these gears are immersed in oil, there sho

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing?

2016-06-08 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Advisory Number: MSA08-003: DATE February 8, 2008 Dealers and OEMs TO: All Marine Distributors SUBJECT: Gear in Neutral While Sailing All MODELS: All Sailboat Engines We continue to get questions regarding the correct gear position while sailing with the engine OFF. This advisory is issued as a

Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing?

2016-06-08 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Can anybody verify this? We have a Kanzaki KM3P transmission on our Yanmar 3GM30F. We always have in reverse while sailing. It would be very good to know if this is a roblem! Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul Baker via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June

Re: Stus-List Kanzaki Transmission in forward or reverse while sailing?

2016-06-08 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Yes, I found the bulletin several years ago. Joel On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Can anybody verify this? > > > > We have a Kanzaki KM3P transmission on our Yanmar 3GM30F. We always have > in reverse while sailing. > > > > It would be