Re: Future of Cocoa

2019-11-21 Thread Matthew Kozak via Cocoa-dev
Wow. Debate (even heated) about Cocoa-dev (broadly) is one thing, but the personal attacks, and attack on the list itself to the point of rage quitting, are all unnecessary. Before sending messages, please look in the mirror and say them out loud to an actual human face and then think about it

Re: other developer lists

2019-11-14 Thread Matthew Kozak via Cocoa-dev
Another reason why there's really no harm -if not some truly topical good- in this kind of thread (even w/ some critiques/defenses) bubbling up here now and again... Thanks, all, -Matt > On Nov 14, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Jens Alfke via Cocoa-dev > wrote: > > Maybe another list for meta or

Re: Thoughts on Objective-C++

2019-11-14 Thread Matthew Kozak via Cocoa-dev
Last year or so, there was much discussion about Apple shutting down many of their lists (some did go away, but this one persists). An external solution was found, by some of those list members, although they have been extremely quiet in the last year+. Here's a message from Steve Mills (is

Re: Cocoa-dev Digest, Vol 16, Issue 144

2019-11-14 Thread Matthew Kozak via Cocoa-dev
As a mostly silent member for years and years, I agree when the list goes off on a complaint tangent (and when it is flagged by moderators, which is rare but sometimes necessary), but I have found this Turtle Creek thread quite useful and agree with many points, particularly these later ones.

Re: Thoughts on Cocoa

2019-10-03 Thread Matthew Kozak via Cocoa-dev
Well, actually: http://www.eat-more-burgers.com/blog/drugstore-burger (couldn't resist). Maybe more like going to a drug's manufacturing plant to complain about your PBM (pharmacy benefits manager), but yeah.  -Matt From: Cocoa-dev on behalf of Dragan Milić