On 21/09/2012, at 2:19 PM, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote:
surely it's not just me?
Far from it. I ended up adding a preference to turn it off, following
complaints.
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On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:03 PM, Shane Stanley sstan...@myriad-com.com.au wrote:
On 21/09/2012, at 2:19 PM, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote:
surely it's not just me?
Far from it. I ended up adding a preference to turn it off, following
complaints.
My gut tells me you should remove
On 9/21/12 8:12 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote:
Now that Apple has added prompt-to-revert support for autosaved documents,
This makes my brain hurt...
Yes, I hate it too.
Markus
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On 21/09/2012, at 4:12 PM, Kyle Sluder k...@ksluder.com wrote:
My gut tells me you should remove that preference and direct your users to
Mountain Lion's General System Preferences instead.
That doesn't help with Lion users, but I take your point about what's likely to
happen. I'd prefer
On Sep 21, 2012, at 6:19 AM, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote:
This might sound esoteric, but this is proving to be really, really common.
It's not just me - our users are complaining for exactly the same reason -
they make a change which they don't expect to stick because they
I think if you have really good undo support people find autosave less of an
annoyance. Most people took advantage of the save-before-experimenting method
because several apps had bad or nonexistent undo support so saving was the only
way to reliably go back.
On Sep 21, 2012, at 10:05 AM,
We had a problem recently in that I was telling my team members to duplicate a
PNG file be doing a save as and turning the alpha channel off. They were in
Lion and you couldn't Save As out of Preview and name a file a new name and
turn off the alpha channel.
In the time it took him to try and
On 22/09/2012, at 2:05 AM, Uli Kusterer witness.of.teacht...@gmx.net wrote:
I run into it as well. But less and less. It's the same as the reversal of
the scroll wheel direction: It's hard to undo more than a decade of rote
memorization. But it's possible It's an aspect of having to
On 21 Sep 2012, at 4:24 pm, Michael Vannorsdel mikev...@gmail.com wrote:
I think if you have really good undo support people find autosave less of an
annoyance.
I think if you have really good first aid service then people find repeatedly
tripping down the stairs less of an annoyance.
b
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On Sep 21, 2012, at 6:20 PM, Ben Kennedy b...@zygoat.ca wrote:
On 21 Sep 2012, at 4:24 pm, Michael Vannorsdel mikev...@gmail.com wrote:
I think if you have really good undo support people find autosave less of an
annoyance.
I think if you have really good first aid service then people
I'm mostly saying is it's something we have to cope with and find ways to make
it work for special cases since it's hard to get Apple to let go of mechanics
they created to try and make life easier for users (it can be argued whether or
not this is true). I've tried the duplicating a backup in
I just want to point out a simple use-case that I'm frequently running into,
and it makes me really hate autosave-in-place.
I save a file that indicates some state I have earmarked for later
investigation, or to send to someone.
While I'm preparing some accompanying documentation, say an email
On Sep 20, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote:
Honestly, this really stinks. I'm finding it hard to believe that Apple in
their wisdom feel this is actually easier to use than the old way of doing
things. I'd be interested to hear others' thoughts on this, surely it's
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