Re: Core Data: Determine if managed object is deleted

2011-10-23 Thread David Riggle
I don't know if all those tests are necessary. I did show the method to a Core Data engineer at WWDC one year and he thought it looked OK. Those are good points about -prepareForDeletion. I was just experimenting for the heck of it. I guess if it ain't broke I shouldn't fix it. :) On Oct 22,

Re: Core Data: Determine if managed object is deleted

2011-10-21 Thread Steve Steinitz
Hi Jerry, On 21 Oct 11, at 2:53pm, cocoa-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote: In other words, they should have named that method -isDeletedForSure, to indicate that the NO result is not reliable. Funny. Anyhow, today I fixed a problem by using this instead BOOL isDeleted ; isDeleted =

Re: Core Data: Determine if managed object is deleted

2011-10-21 Thread David Riggle
This is what I have used for years with good success: - (BOOL)retainedObjectHasBeenDeleted { // if object has been deleted, then it no longer exists if ([self isDeleted]) return YES; // otherwise, see if object with this ID exists in the database

Re: Core Data: Determine if managed object is deleted

2011-10-21 Thread Dave Fernandes
On 2011-10-21, at 11:57 AM, David Riggle wrote: I'm currently experimenting with the following to see if it's as safe and perhaps faster: - (void)prepareForDeletion { // track object deletion for faster testing below NSString *objIDStr = [[[self objectID] URIRepresentation]

Re: Core Data: Determine if managed object is deleted

2011-10-21 Thread Jerry Krinock
On 2011 Oct 21, at 08:57, David Riggle wrote: - (BOOL)retainedObjectHasBeenDeleted { // if object has been deleted, then it no longer exists if ([self isDeleted]) return YES; // otherwise, see if object with this ID exists in the database

Core Data: Determine if managed object is deleted

2011-10-20 Thread Jerry Krinock
When I need to know whether or not a managed object is deleted, often I fall into the trap of trying -[NSManagedObject isDeleted], forgetting that its documentation states … … It may return NO at other times, particularly after the object has been deleted. … In other words, they should have

Re: Core Data: Determine if managed object is deleted

2011-10-20 Thread Gideon King
Ooh, I had never noticed that - I just assumed that the method did what you would think. That may be the cause of an issue in my code. Thanks for the heads up. I would tend to try to avoid processPendingChanges if possible since it appears to be a rather expensive operation. Regards Gideon

Re: Core Data: Determine if managed object is deleted

2011-10-20 Thread Quincey Morris
On Oct 20, 2011, at 15:37 , Jerry Krinock wrote: When I need to know whether or not a managed object is deleted, often I fall into the trap of trying -[NSManagedObject isDeleted], forgetting that its documentation states … … It may return NO at other times, particularly after the object