Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-16 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Ivelin Ivanov wrote: > >>Reinhard, >> >>We are looking for someone to step up and show us how these two can work >>together in a nice way. >> >>Interested? > > > I am. > > IMNSHO, the flowmap should totally replace actions and deprecate them. > > I've looked at XMLF

Re: progress report on XSLTC]]

2002-06-16 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Gianugo, I wanted to play with it this weekend, but it seems that the jar is not in your home dir any more. It is not in CVS either. Where do I get it ? Ivelin Gianugo Rabellino wrote: > Ivelin Ivanov wrote: > >> Excelent! >> >> I want to try it NOW ! >> >> For all the folks that were

Re: [RT] Flowmaps

2002-06-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Thank you eversomuch! Thats very helpful. I'm going to take some time and digest it all and then I'll provide any thoughts. Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: >Last time I wrote an RT about these things, the flowmap wasn't >implemented. Today it's working, but there are things that I would like >to cha

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-16 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Thanks for your thouts. I would like to see an example at least as complex as the XMLForm demo before I can comment. The example needs to 1) Be able to handle most UI widgets, including checkboxes 2) Allow 2 way navigation 3) Make decisions about the next page based on: a) validity of the i

Re: We need a detailed comparison with Struts

2002-06-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >Now: am I happy with HEAD? no, I'm not. I don't think we are even close >to be that kick-ass framework that we all want it to become. Why? mostly >because of Actions. > >I want to kill the concept of actions. > > +1 >I'll show in detail how I plan to do this in a later email. > > > -

[RT] Flowmaps

2002-06-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Last time I wrote an RT about these things, the flowmap wasn't implemented. Today it's working, but there are things that I would like to change. This RT is to start a discussion that will hopefully lead to a coherent and community-driven design on what the flowmap engine will look like. First o

Re: XInclude Transformer vs CInlude Transformer

2002-06-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Michael Wechner wrote: > > For example, suppose you have something like this > > > > > > http://www.w3.org/xinclude/2000"; src="blah.inc"/> > > http://apache.org/cocoon/include"; src="blah.inc"/> > > > > > > > the first tag should *not* be processed by Cocoon, even by an > > 'including'

Re: Actions and XMLForm

2002-06-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
"Andrew C. Oliver" wrote: > > Hi, > > I've been working on XMLForm stuff and overall it's nice. just. > > ActionsI don't really like them. They smell. Bingo! > Okay, actually I > think they might have their place if say > your form handling was really really really complex, but th

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Daniel Fagerström wrote: [skip lots of great stuff] > I strongly sugests that we should _not_ make general use of > continuations available in the flowmap language as there is no need for > it for what flowmaps are intended to do: describing multipage flow in > webapps. Daniel, thanks for your

Re: We need a detailed comparison with Struts

2002-06-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
TREGAN Fabien wrote: > > >I can only hope such architectural decisions are not solely made based > >on documentation or 'white papers', but also on evaluating design and > >codebase. > > I wish it were :) Please, allow me to kick in since this is a very important discussion for all those people

Re: Planning the releases

2002-06-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Sylvain Wallez wrote: +1 for 2.0.3 as soon as possible. I don't have issues with that. > >> And if we are already talking about releases, what do we have to do > >> for 2.1? It seems that many things are nearly finished, so we can > >> start to think of a beta phase. I would propose the 15th of

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Ivelin Ivanov wrote: > > Reinhard, > > We are looking for someone to step up and show us how these two can work > together in a nice way. > > Interested? I am. IMNSHO, the flowmap should totally replace actions and deprecate them. I've looked at XMLForms and I must say it looks extremely unf

What is Cocoon?

2002-06-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
"Andrew C. Oliver" wrote: > > > Just what IS Cocoon? > > > >This one will be solved when Cocoon Blocks are available and every > >installation can be customized depending on the needs and 3rd party stuff > >can be provided as blocks and not with the core. > > No. It will be mitigated, but not so

Re: JNDI in cocoon (related to ClassLoader issues)

2002-06-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Sylvain Wallez wrote: > This is now fixed, but this problem is very likely to resurface with > Cocoon blocks : if a block comes with its own jars, Cocoon will have to > create a classloader for them and set it as the context classloader so > that block-defined classes can be loaded correctly by A

Re: [GUMP] Build Failure - xml-cocoon2

2002-06-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
I'm kind bugged by all these 'build failures' in Cocoon and I don't think they are all our faults. Sam, I don't know if you are still in charge of updating the GUMP stuff, but since the mail comes from your name, I'll use you as a gateway. Sam Ruby wrote: > > ---

RE: getting NPEs from HEAD

2002-06-16 Thread maciejka
On 14 Jun 2002 at 11:26, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > On 13 Jun 2002 at 19:03, Jeremy Quinn wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > Has the caching still got a few problems? > > > I have been getting these a bit: > ... > > > java.lang.NullPointerException

Re: run.sh/command line issues

2002-06-16 Thread Stephan Michels
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Diana Shannon wrote: > I am working on a How-To for the command line. To get started, I had to > deal with a few issues described below. > > First of all, I just committed a patch for run.sh which now reflects the > revised lib directory structure of 2.03 and HEAD. (Note th

Re: Samples Refactoring: Documentation Structure

2002-06-16 Thread David Crossley
Someone said: > > I'd like also to propose some requirements/wishes to samples > > organization. > > They should: > > - have a subsitemap where all the used (specific to the sample) > > components are declared > > - provide a default access URI (like: /samples/i18n/, /samples/jsp/) > > - provide '

cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/src/documentation/xdocs/plan samples.xml book.xml index.xml release.xml

2002-06-16 Thread crossley
crossley2002/06/16 01:40:49 Modified:.changes.xml todo.xml src/documentation/xdocs/plan book.xml index.xml release.xml Added: src/documentation/xdocs/plan samples.xml Log: Encourage people to help with the refactoring of Cocoon samples. Provide a "re

Re: XMLForm & Control of flow

2002-06-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
That'd be nice; howver, the description I've gotten of flowmap do not excite me or seem to achive the objective I've outlined. That being said there are no docs really on flowmap, and I'm kinda dull--so not my bag man. Admittedly, my understanding of it is incomplete and probably will be for

cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/concepts catalog.xml

2002-06-16 Thread crossley
crossley2002/06/16 00:29:31 Modified:src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/concepts Tag: cocoon_2_0_3_branch catalog.xml Log: Fix pathnames for xconf instructions. Revision ChangesPath No revision No revision

cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/concepts catalog.xml

2002-06-16 Thread crossley
crossley2002/06/16 00:29:19 Modified:src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/concepts catalog.xml Log: Fix pathnames for xconf instructions. Revision ChangesPath 1.4 +4 -4 xml-cocoon2/src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/concepts/catalog.xml Index: catalog.xml ==

cvs commit: xml-cocoon2 changes.xml

2002-06-16 Thread crossley
crossley2002/06/16 00:27:02 Modified:.changes.xml Log: Add entry for entity resolver samples. Revision ChangesPath 1.189 +7 -2 xml-cocoon2/changes.xml Index: changes.xml === RCS fil

cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/src/webapp/docs/samples/catalog article.xml sdocbook2body.xsl style.xsl test.xml testovr.xml

2002-06-16 Thread crossley
crossley2002/06/16 00:21:25 Removed: src/webapp/docs/samples/catalog article.xml sdocbook2body.xsl style.xsl test.xml testovr.xml Log: The catalog sample has moved to webapp/samples/misc/catalog/ --