Re: Where is 2.1?

2003-02-16 Thread David Crossley
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > I am probably an idiot, so bare with me > > If I check out > cvs co xml-cocoon2 > > I THINK I get ver 2.1, since there is cocoon_2_0_3 branch. > > Is that so? The head is the latest stuff and older revisions are branched? That is correct. By default you will get H

Re: Bug 16580; compiling xsp with classpath

2003-02-16 Thread Christopher Oliver
OK. I get it. The old version of Xalan that comes with the JDK incorrectly throws that exception when processing one of Cocoon's stylesheets. By placing a new version of Xalan in Tomcat's endorsed directory (http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/guide/standards) the newer version of Xalan is loade

Where is 2.1?

2003-02-16 Thread Niclas Hedhman
I am probably an idiot, so bare with me If I check out cvs co xml-cocoon2 I THINK I get ver 2.1, since there is cocoon_2_0_3 branch. Is that so? The head is the latest stuff and older revisions are branched? Niclas - T

Re: extending XMLForms for different kinds of models...opinions?

2003-02-16 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sunday 16 February 2003 03:49, Christopher Oliver wrote: > Just wondering, why isn't the "average cocoon user" reluctant to write > complex xpath or xslt code as well as Java? People, there is NO "average Cocoon user". Please refer to the SoC diagram at http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/introductio

Re: Bug 16580; compiling xsp with classpath

2003-02-16 Thread Christopher Oliver
OK. Here you go. EmbeddedJavaCompiler is an implementation of LanguageCompiler that doesn't depend on CLASSPATH but instead uses the thread context class loader to load dependent classes. I've attached a working version (minimally tested) . I've also attached a new version of JavaLanguage.java

AW: [ot] exploring logs with swing gui

2003-02-16 Thread Marco Rolappe
hi bernhard, I've also been looking for something like this, but haven't found anything appropriate. first thought about writing some special LogTarget, but didn't have the time and motivation then. I'd definitely be interested in your adoption. among other things I find it very useful to dynamic

Re: Bug 16580; compiling xsp with classpath

2003-02-16 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Not exactly, but the JDK 1.4 comes with older versions of Xalan, Xerces and so on and there seem to be some incompatibilities. And normally JDK classes are loaded first => the well-known endorsed problem. Joerg Christopher Oliver wrote: Yes, adding xsltc-X.jar to common/endorsed fixed that

Re: extending XMLForms for different kinds of models...opinions?

2003-02-16 Thread Ugo Cei
Jakob Praher wrote: In my experience, using a simple Bean Object as the form model and then using this model to fill in a DataObject is the better approach than direct binding the data object to the form, as you can't always do a 1:1 mapping between all the fields. This is a good point. In my ap

Re: Bug 16580; compiling xsp with classpath

2003-02-16 Thread Christopher Oliver
Yes, adding xsltc-X.jar to common/endorsed fixed that problem. But what exactly caused it in the first place? Can someone explain? Regards, Chris Ugo Cei wrote: Christopher Oliver wrote: Sylvain, Can you explain the connection between Xalan.jar, the endorsed directory, and the error me

Re: Bug 16580; compiling xsp with classpath

2003-02-16 Thread Ugo Cei
Christopher Oliver wrote: Sylvain, Can you explain the connection between Xalan.jar, the endorsed directory, and the error message below? Unfortunately, I already tried copying xalan-2.4.1.jar, xercesImpl-2.1.0.jar and xml-apis.jar into %TOMCAT_HOME%/lib/endorsed but still got the same error.

[ot] exploring logs with swing gui

2003-02-16 Thread Bernhard Huber
hi, team being tired of exploring logs with less, and tail, i started adopting CHAINSAW delived with log4j for the org.apache.log package you might want to have a look at the snapshots http://cvs.apache.org/~huber/logswing-1.gif http://cvs.apache.org/~huber/logswing-2.gif it's just a quick hack, pe

Re: Bug 16580; compiling xsp with classpath

2003-02-16 Thread Christopher Oliver
Sylvain, Can you explain the connection between Xalan.jar, the endorsed directory, and the error message below? Unfortunately, I already tried copying xalan-2.4.1.jar, xercesImpl-2.1.0.jar and xml-apis.jar into %TOMCAT_HOME%/lib/endorsed but still got the same error. Regards, Chris Sylvain W

Re: cocoon usability

2003-02-16 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Christopher Oliver wrote: Just wondering, why isn't the "average cocoon user" reluctant to write complex xpath or xslt code as well as Java? This is a damn good question. I think Cocoon is starting to suffer from 'over-RAD-ness', meaning that people love the fact t

Re: Bug 16580; compiling xsp with classpath

2003-02-16 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Christopher Oliver wrote: Actually I am in the process of trying to do this but got immediately stopped by the below when I first tried to run cocoon (built from today's cvs), Anyone care to help? Regards, Chris ERROR (2003-02-16) 13:12.15:159 [access] (/cocoon/documents/index.html) Th

Cocoon Project Report

2003-02-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
As requested by the chairman, I send in a report of the activities performed by the Cocoon Project so far. - o - The Cocoon Project is slowly starting up. We are in the progress of establishing the voting rules (taken from Avalon) so that we can start the PMC.

Re: Bug 16580; compiling xsp with classpath

2003-02-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Christopher Oliver wrote: Actually I am in the process of trying to do this but got immediately stopped by the below when I first tried to run cocoon (built from today's cvs), Anyone care to help? Regards, Chris ERROR (2003-02-16) 13:12.15:159 [access] (/cocoon/documents/index.html) Thr

Re: Bug 16580; compiling xsp with classpath

2003-02-16 Thread Christopher Oliver
Actually I am in the process of trying to do this but got immediately stopped by the below when I first tried to run cocoon (built from today's cvs), Anyone care to help? Regards, Chris ERROR (2003-02-16) 13:12.15:159 [access] (/cocoon/documents/index.html) Thread-10/CocoonServlet: Probl

cocoon usability

2003-02-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Christopher Oliver wrote: Just wondering, why isn't the "average cocoon user" reluctant to write complex xpath or xslt code as well as Java? This is a damn good question. I think Cocoon is starting to suffer from 'over-RAD-ness', meaning that people love the fact that they can have something t

Re: ClassLoaderManager and its secret life as a static

2003-02-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Peter Royal wrote: On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 03:08 PM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: The only usage of the "singleton" piece of it is in JavaLanguage, which takes a parameter named 'class-loader' and will use that as a class name to instantiate an object that implements ClassLoaderManager. T

Re: Bug 16580; compiling xsp with classpath

2003-02-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there As I cannot submit stuff in bugzilla on nagoya, You just need to create an account, that's it. I'll just add a little comment here: The "patch" to pizza I've made works fine, with the limitation that it cannot use star-imports "im

Re: sample web-app too complex?

2003-02-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Michael Melhem wrote: With the current complexity of the webapp Im afraid that perhaps a lot of new users might not be able to see the "forrest for the trees". Does anyone else see value in this? I do. It's planned for the improved build system I'm working on. Expect it soon. -- Stefano Maz

[ot] tell them, brother!

2003-02-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
[sorry for those who've seen this already] One of Microsoft managers leaves and writes this: http://www.synthesist.net/writing/onleavingms.html Best quote is the very end: > Stop looking over your shoulder and invent something! Amen! -- Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL

cvs commit: xml-cocoon2/lib/endorsed xsltc-20030211.jar xsltc.jar

2003-02-16 Thread michaelm
michaelm2003/02/11 06:23:04 Modified:lib jars.xml Added: lib/endorsed xsltc-20030211.jar Removed: lib/endorsed xsltc.jar Log: Updated to latest xsltc jar so that BCEL/xsltc threading issues are resolved as discussed in the avalon-dev and cocoon-dev mailing list

Re: extending XMLForms for different kinds of models...opinions?

2003-02-16 Thread Jakob Praher
hi all, Am Son, 2003-02-16 um 10.32 schrieb Ugo Cei: > ivelin wrote: > > Ugo, can you can share experience with Hibernate vs. Jakarta OJB, Cayenne > > or another Open Source O/R tool. > > > > There is a reasonably objective comparison here > > http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?ObjectRelationalToolCompa

Re: extending XMLForms for different kinds of models...opinions?

2003-02-16 Thread Ugo Cei
ivelin wrote: Ugo, can you can share experience with Hibernate vs. Jakarta OJB, Cayenne or another Open Source O/R tool. There is a reasonably objective comparison here http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?ObjectRelationalToolComparison but I would like to hear more from a usability, flexibility and perfo