RE: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-14 Thread David Crossley
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I just fixed some bugs in the catalog resolving code; as far as I can tell everything is working fine. If you experience problems, just let me know. Most bits seem to be working again, e.g. main Cocoon

Re: Minimal JDK Version for 2.1

2003-03-14 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Torsten Curdt wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: We discussed this topic several times, so I think we can come to a conclusion now. Currently, we have JDK 1.2 as a minimal requirement for 2.1, but afaik the avalon framework requires JDK 1.3 anyway and the poll started recently showed, that most are

RE: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-14 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
David Crossley wrote: Now, there is something wrong with this approach. We can easily change (which should be the 'correct' solution) that a path starting with / is treated as an absolute path. So if you want to load from the context directory, you have to specify WEB-INF/.. instead of

(In)Dependence on servlet - (Re: [RT] Flow as a block)

2003-03-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Carsten Ziegeler wrote, On 14/03/2003 8.23: Upayavira wrote_ Do we have hard dependencies on servlet ? AFAIK we have some for those components that can't live without it (e.g. JSPGenerator), but are there others ? Try running the CLI without a reference to servlet-XXX.jar. It fails whilst

RE: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-14 Thread David Crossley
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: snip/ Ok, done (I hope) - I changed the implementation and the cocoon.xconf. How can we test it to ensure that it works correctly? The main way is via the samples/catalog/ (top Samples page = Catalog Entity Resolver) Try the first sample to ensure that default config

Re: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-14 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: The flow stuff is an optional component, which means I can use it or not. Cocoon started as a web publishing framework and as flow is not directly a core component for web publishing but for web applications, I really would like to see flow as an own block that I can either

Re: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 14/03/2003 10.31: ... First of all, there is a major architectural difference between moving the portal-framework into a block and moving flow into a block. Why? because the first is 'on top' of cocoon, the second is 'in cocoon'. Nicely worded. I agree. Now, I

RE: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-14 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: snip/ Ok, done (I hope) - I changed the implementation and the cocoon.xconf. How can we test it to ensure that it works correctly? The main way is via the samples/catalog/ (top Samples page = Catalog Entity Resolver) Try the first sample

What is this?

2003-03-14 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi: I currently downloaded the lastest CVS from cocoon-2.1. I am using Tomcat 4.1.18. After a sucessfull compile of the sources. I noted the following: 1-If I install the cocoon.war into Tomcat, after this I shutdown it using ./shutdown.sh Please note that I already can see the working

Cocoon webapp does not exit cleanly

2003-03-14 Thread Santiago Gala
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Hi: I currently downloaded the lastest CVS from cocoon-2.1. I am using Tomcat 4.1.18. After a sucessfull compile of the sources. I noted the following: 1-If I install the cocoon.war into Tomcat, after this I shutdown it using ./shutdown.sh Please note that I already can

RE: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-14 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
I just did a fix for absolute paths on windows. All your tests work for me on w2k. Carsten

RE: (In)Dependence on servlet - (Re: [RT] Flow as a block)

2003-03-14 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Well, the fact is that some parts reference the CocoonServlet, and the StreamGenerator is usable only on Servlets! Ok, this has already been discussed, so I think we should get to a conclusion here. Proposal: 1) move all environments in separate

Re: (In)Dependence on servlet - (Re: [RT] Flow as a block)

2003-03-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Just a couple of corrections. Carsten Ziegeler wrote, On 14/03/2003 14.13: ... Ok, we should consider adding libs to an environment directory as well, so the servlet.jar could become part of the servlet environment. +1 ... Shouldn't this be added to the Request? The StreamGenerator does not

RE: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-14 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: These RT propose two things: 1) move out flow as a block 2) make the sitemap syntax pluggable Yes, but I see 1) as a need and would be happy about 2). - people use cocoon in a non-servlet environment and would like to see all servlet hooks removed Yes.

Re: What is this?

2003-03-14 Thread Jeff Turner
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 05:09:16AM -0600, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Hi: I currently downloaded the lastest CVS from cocoon-2.1. I am using Tomcat 4.1.18. After a sucessfull compile of the sources. I noted the following: 1-If I install the cocoon.war into Tomcat, after this I shutdown it

Re: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-14 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: - people don't like/use actions and would like to see support for it removed No, like Nicola said, these are usual sitemap components. I don't use actions nor like them so they are not 'usual' for me as much as flow is not 'usual' for you if you don't like nor use it.

[GUMP] Build Failure - Cocoon

2003-03-14 Thread Gump
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Re: Java PetStore sample

2003-03-14 Thread leo leonid
On Donnerstag, März 13, 2003, at 09:28 Uhr, Christopher Oliver wrote: I've made a first cut at implementing the Java PetStore example application using Cocoon. I started by converting the Ibatis PetStore (https://sourceforge.net/projects/ibatisjpetstore) I deployed it just now, using

Re: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-14 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 14/03/2003 10.31: ... First of all, there is a major architectural difference between moving the portal-framework into a block and moving flow into a block. Why? because the first is 'on top' of cocoon, the second is 'in cocoon'. Nicely

Re: (In)Dependence on servlet - (Re: [RT] Flow as a block)

2003-03-14 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote, On 14/03/2003 8.23: Upayavira wrote_ Do we have hard dependencies on servlet ? AFAIK we have some for those components that can't live without it (e.g. JSPGenerator), but are there others ? Try running the CLI without a reference to

RE: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-14 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: But: during the last two years, from time to time I had the need to extend the sitemap syntax, because that would have made some things much more easier. As it was not possible, we used some other methods like actions etc. Having a solid contracts doesn't mean we

Re: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 14/03/2003 14.49: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: ... - people don't like/use actions and would like to see support for it removed ? I regard actions on par with all other Cocoon Sitemap Components. I, for one, don't. We know, we know ;-P They are part of our basic

Re: Java PetStore sample

2003-03-14 Thread Christopher Oliver
leo leonid wrote: I never used velocity templates so far. In order to get your snapshot running (so far I get a ConfigurationException: Type 'flow_velocity' is not defined) I wanted to have a look at the velocity-cocoon samples. Unfortunately the are not available in the latest 2.1 CVS build.

Re: Java PetStore sample

2003-03-14 Thread leo leonid
On Freitag, März 14, 2003, at 03:24 Uhr, Christopher Oliver wrote: leo leonid wrote: I never used velocity templates so far. In order to get your snapshot running (so far I get a ConfigurationException: Type 'flow_velocity' is not defined) I wanted to have a look at the velocity-cocoon

Re: Finishing Deprecation Package

2003-03-14 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 09:03 AM, David Crossley wrote: The main way is via the samples/catalog/ (top Samples page = Catalog Entity Resolver) Try the first sample to ensure that default config is okay. No, I get : An error occurredorg.apache.cocoon.ProcessingExceptionUnable to get

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 18003] New: - JSPReader JSPGenerator

2003-03-14 Thread bugzilla
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RE: (In)Dependence on servlet

2003-03-14 Thread Upayavira
On 14 Mar 2003 at 10:54, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: ./src/modules/flow ./src/modules/servlet-environment ./src/modules/cli-environment ./src/modules/bean-environment ./src/modules/instrumentation ./src/deprecated -- move it here for consistency Minor point, but seeing as the cli uses the

Re: What is this?

2003-03-14 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi Jeff! Thanks for the answer. I was going crazy with this. Also I was trying the new 4.1.21 BETA for development purpose when the problrm starts. This is why I changed all back and trying to resolve this issue. Well, I looks like I have not Good luck when did the change. :-D Best Regards,

XSP Exception

2003-03-14 Thread Jeremy Quinn
Hi All, Any idea why XSPs are throwing this? : 17:21:40.007 WARN!! Error for /samples/xsp/simple java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError: corrupted file parser2.rsc at org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.parser.Parser.clinit(Parser.java:364 ) at

Discussion of Flow Issues

2003-03-14 Thread Christopher Oliver
Here's a summary of some of the recent issues with the Flow for discussion: 1) Storing the flow context object and continuation in environment attributes: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=104673257019781w=2 This seems easy to fix. But I personally don't understand the

[GUMP] Good news and bad

2003-03-14 Thread Berin Loritsch
First the good news: Avalon is no longer the problem preventing GUMP builds. As Avalon has been going through its growing pains in its infancy, we have been taking some serious strides toward stability and simplifying our code base. As part of that effort, we are releasing all the Avalon

Re: Java PetStore sample

2003-03-14 Thread Christopher Oliver
leo leonid wrote: Eventually, I'd like to add this to the flow samples, but in the meantime if anyone is interested in helping, let me know and I'll check it into the scratchpad. (Unfortunately the scratchpad samples are still broken though). Please do. A sample like this would be sufficient

xml.apache.org cvs details wrong

2003-03-14 Thread Andrew Savory
Hi, Not sure quite where to send this, but I'm sure someone on this list can deal with it ;-) http://xml.apache.org/cvs.html is referring to the old xml-cocoon and xml-cocoon2 repositories. Andrew. -- Andrew SavoryEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Managing Director

Re: [GUMP] Good news and bad

2003-03-14 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Berin Loritsch wrote: First the good news: Avalon is no longer the problem preventing GUMP builds. As Avalon has been going through its growing pains in its infancy, we have been taking some serious strides toward stability and simplifying our code base. As part of that effort, we are releasing

Re: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-14 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: But: during the last two years, from time to time I had the need to extend the sitemap syntax, because that would have made some things much more easier. As it was not possible, we used some other methods like actions etc. Having a solid contracts

Re: [GUMP] Good news and bad

2003-03-14 Thread Berin Loritsch
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote: First the good news: Avalon is no longer the problem preventing GUMP builds. As Avalon has been going through its growing pains in its infancy, we have been taking some serious strides toward stability and simplifying our code base. As part of that

Re: more xmlforms + schematron, why ?

2003-03-14 Thread Christopher Oliver
It may not help you at the moment because its still under development, but with the current XMLForm integration with the Cocoon flow layer, you can also do validation in JavaScript, meaning you have regular expressions, String operations, etc, the full power of JavaScript and Java, if you need

Re: (In)Dependence on servlet

2003-03-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Upayavira wrote, On 14/03/2003 18.19: On 14 Mar 2003 at 10:54, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: ./src/modules/flow ./src/modules/servlet-environment ./src/modules/cli-environment ./src/modules/bean-environment ./src/modules/instrumentation ./src/deprecated -- move it here for consistency Minor

Re: (In)Dependence on servlet

2003-03-14 Thread Upayavira
Minor point, but seeing as the cli uses the bean, surely the CLI environment should be replaced with a 'more generic' bean-environment, rather than there being one of each. Well, actually the CLI has an additional jar needed, the CLI jar (soon switch as Avalon is doing to commons-cli).

Re: (In)Dependence on servlet

2003-03-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Upayavira wrote, On 14/03/2003 22.50: Well, actually the CLI has an additional jar needed, the CLI jar (soon switch as Avalon is doing to commons-cli). Let me know when we're ready to do so, and I'll happily send in a patch to move to the commons-cli. Even now. the sooner tha better :-) --

[Patch] cocoon.bat issues

2003-03-14 Thread Jeff Ramsdale
With recent updates of Cocoon 2.1-dev from CVS I haven't been able to get the embedded Jetty to start up (Windows ME, j2sdk1.4.0). Turning echo on I discovered 2 endless loops in cocoon.bat. Initially there were duplicate gotPort and gotWebapp labels; I changed the duplicate names. I then

exclusion of certain blocks from build is busted

2003-03-14 Thread David Crossley
About 4 days ago the build was changed to differently handle the way blocks are excluded. Now it looks like those properties are ignored. Today one of the blocks is broken. I tried to get around it as usual by un-commenting the line in local.blocks.properties to no avail. Would people please

Flows with Jelly as backend?

2003-03-14 Thread Andreas Hochsteger
Hi everybody! I wonder if anybody ever looked at jelly: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/jelly/ I found a hint to it in the Wyona/Lenya users mailing list. It consists of an XML syntax and a tool wich interprets the XML documents and it seems to be similar to the way ant works. Would

[heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please

2003-03-14 Thread Steven Noels
Folks, while briefly checking the Wiki, I was confronted with some apparent abuse: people uploading attachments which don't have much to do with Cocoon (possibly just making benefit of the bandwidth we are sponsoring), people playing around on certain non-Sandbox pages, even to the extreme of

Re: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please

2003-03-14 Thread Andrew Savory
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Steven Noels wrote: while briefly checking the Wiki, I was confronted with some apparent abuse Your thoughts, please: what kind of policy would you come up with, or are willing to live up to? Maybe raise the bar slightly so it's less easy to make initial edits - add

[ANN/OT] xreporter 1.1 release - Avalon/Cocoon-based web databasereporting

2003-03-14 Thread Steven Noels
Hi all, we've just released the 1.1 version of xReporter, our open source Avalon/Cocoon-based database reporting framework, available from http://xreporter.cocoondev.org/ xReporter consists of 2 main components: * an Avalon Phoenix-based query server, which is configured through XML-based