Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Edward M. Corrado
I disagree about the random registration concept. As long as the time is announced in advance (which was done this year) people should plan accordingly. You didn't need to register the first minute this year. I registered an hour after registration opened and while I was initially on the waiting

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Peter Murray
That is a crazy idea. I don't know about putting the speakers on the hook for two days -- particularly keynote speakers. Still, it would be interesting for a site to flesh this out and propose something along these lines. Peter On Dec 21, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Fleming, Declan wrote: Hi - so

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Jon Stroop
Maybe keynotes happen on the middle day; the one time where the whole group comes together, though it would require a 2x size space... This could also reduce the length to 4.5 days. On 12/22/2011 10:05 AM, Peter Murray wrote: That is a crazy idea. I don't know about putting the speakers on

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Ross Singer
Given the fact that they have to be there twice as long (i.e. twice as expensive), what would be the incentive to present? This, personally, sounds like Presenter Gulag to me. -Ross. On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Peter Murray peter.mur...@lyrasis.org wrote: That is a crazy idea.  I don't

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Edward M. Corrado
I agree it is a crazy idea and I'm not sure if it would work, but I like the out of the box thinking. If the site had one big space that could handle 500 people, you could just have one keynote session that both groups attended., I guess. That does restricts the options for locations, but not as

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
At least Declan acknowledged the idea was nuts from the outset. Yes, it's nuts. Until I see a hosting proposal putting one of these ideas forward, well, I was gonna say something snarky about endless discussion but this is kind of a discussion list and I just added to it. :) Mmmm, this foot

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Brett Bonfield
Seems like a hybrid system might make sense. Reserve spots for presenters and scholarship winners, and decide on both before registration opens. I'm sure it's difficult to coordinate voting for presenters, and I know from having volunteered on the scholarship committee that it would be difficult

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Jay Luker
I agree with Ed: I like that someone is throwing out crazy ideas. I don't particularly like this crazy idea though. If you accept that the downside to multiple tracks is fracturing of the audience/community, then I don't see how holding a 2nd clone of the conference on subsequent days gets around

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Wilfred Drew
Here is another crazy idea; stream the event live for those who can't get registered for the pace to face version and provide a lower registration fee for them. - Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S. Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
Seems a reasonable suggestion to me. The tricky bit will be how to decide who's contributed substantially as a volunteer. Or maybe I'm overthinking it. Otherwise, I like the blend of first-come-first-served, guaranteed slots for folks who put in the time, and a lottery system for those who

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Cary Gordon
This is definitely doable, and potentially effective for a single track conference. I have been doing streaming as a volunteer for eight years and it keeps getting easier. Cary On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Wilfred Drew dr...@tc3.edu wrote: Here is another crazy idea; stream the event live

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Ross Singer
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Fleming, Declan dflem...@ucsd.edu wrote: Hi - my hope is that people would commit to the whole week and use the time during the Session they are not in to do other interesting things - camps that could maybe fit in the talks that didn't get voted in, in depth

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Fleming, Declan
Hi - yep, you're right about that. D -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Ross Singer Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:54 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Michael North
I have followed this discussion with great interest and have only one comment.watch out for the slippery slope. There will be unintended consequences whenever you try to ensure a just registration system, be it by controlling randomness or by qualifying the participants. Where do you

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Corey A Harper
Cary, Good to know about your extensive experience w/ streaming. If you'll be in Seattle, would you be willing to add your name to the Video Committee listing? http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2012_committees_sign-up_page#Video_Committee Having people who actually know what they're doing

Re: [CODE4LIB] Not-so-Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Elizabeth Duell
I haven't entered this conversation mostly because I am not really part of this community. However, at this point, I think I have something to say about the registration process and it's foibles. The land rush registration has been (and I think will be again) a nightmare. I have spent far

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Shaun Ellis
I agree that the discussion should focus on ways of adapting the conference to serve the expanding community without losing the good qualities that come from keeping it small. This is the future, so the community is only going to get bigger. Perhaps coordinating a different regional meetup

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Karen Schneider
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Edward M. Corrado ecorr...@ecorrado.uswrote: I could have done what others did and purposely avoided scheduling meetings around that time and rescheduled the one that was but I didn't. Yes, I have bazillions of other things to do and the registration time

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Karen Schneider
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick cf...@stanford.eduwrote: +1 for Terry's idea of limiting the number of participants each institution can send. I don't know what this number would be, but I think it would help increase diversity, since it might get more people working in

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread John Kirriemuir
On 22 Dec 2011, at 18:20, Reese, Terry wrote: This way, there is no 'main' event. There are just events. Deep. *Nods, enlightened.* John Kirriemuir Agent Librarian http://www.wordshore.com/

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 13:16, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: This fits in well with something I was thinking about earlier.  To me, the best way to solve the problem is to simply have more conferences.  I, personally, would like to do with away with the regional brand and just call

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Peter Noerr
Crazy variation number 3. Have two tracks which are identical, but time shifted by half a day (or some other convenient unit). The presenters talk twice on the same day - in the morning for track A and the afternoon for track B. That way there is no speaker gulag, no time over-run (though,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Daniel Lovins
Actually, my sense from last year's meeting, with significant contingents from Europe and Japan, is that code4lib has become an international conference. On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Michael J. Giarlo leftw...@alumni.rutgers.edu wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 13:16, Ross Singer

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Karen Schneider
Also, is there any interest in a San Francisco Bay Area Code For Libraries Regional Affiliate (code4lib-sfbay for short)? +1 If our bandwidth issues on campus get resolved, we'd offer our site, too. Our Valley Center for Performing Arts has a smaller theater on the lower level that could

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Karen Schneider
And streaming to a satellite meeting, say here in the Bay, area where 10-15-20 people could get together informally gives them a chance to interact amongst themselves, if not the whole group. (OK, that is crazy idea #4 Peter +1. The IRC channel would be a further real-time bond with the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread BWS Johnson
Salvete! I disagree about the random registration concept. As long as the time is announced in advance (which was done this year) people should plan accordingly. You didn't need to register the first minute this year. I registered an hour after registration opened and while I was initially

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Jason Griffey
Seriously, gang...as soon as we get this new library built, I'm all-in for C4L-Chattanooga. I'll provide the venue, just wait until Fall 2013. Jason On Dec 22, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Reese, Terry

Re: [CODE4LIB] My crazed idea about dealing with registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Walter Lewis
On 2011-12-22, at 1:55 PM, Peter Noerr wrote: Crazy variation number 3. Have two tracks which are identical, but time shifted by half a day (or some other convenient unit). The presenters talk twice on the same day - in the morning for track A and the afternoon for track B. That way there

[CODE4LIB] T-shirt contest winner

2011-12-22 Thread Ann Lally
Sean Hannan from Johns Hopkins University is the winner of the Code4Lib 2012 t-shirt design contest! The voting was VERY close, but in the end, Sean pulled ahead and came out the winner. To see the winning design please visit: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/C4l2012_t-shirtcontest

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Peter Noerr
+1 Peter Noerr MuseGlobal -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Schneider Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:11 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations