Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce

2010-01-21 Thread BM
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Steve Loughran ste...@apache.org wrote: SCO sued people who had bought Unix source code licenses and threatened end-users of linux over copyright. No patent lawsuits, just doomed copyright TCs. Yes, and Oracle was the very first company that said Screw you,

Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce

2010-01-20 Thread Udaya Lakshmi
Hi, As an user of hadoop, Is there anything to worry about Google obtaining the patent over mapreduce? Thanks.

Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce

2010-01-20 Thread Ravi
Hi, I too read about that news. I don't think that it will be any problem. However Google didn't invent the model. Thanks. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Udaya Lakshmi udaya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As an user of hadoop, Is there anything to worry about Google obtaining the patent over

Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce

2010-01-20 Thread Edward Capriolo
Interesting situation. I try to compare mapreduce to the camera. Let argue Google is Kodak, Apache is Polaroid, and MapReduce is a Camera. Imagine Kodak invented the camera privately, never sold it to anyone, but produced some document describing what a camera did. Polaroid followed the document

Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce

2010-01-20 Thread Raymond Jennings III
themselves from someone else claiming it as their own and then suing Google. But yes, the patent system clearly has problems as you stated. --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Edward Capriolo edlinuxg...@gmail.com wrote: From: Edward Capriolo edlinuxg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Google has obtained the patent over

Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce

2010-01-20 Thread Edward Capriolo
: From: Edward Capriolo edlinuxg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:09 PM Interesting situation. I try to compare mapreduce to the camera. Let argue Google is Kodak, Apache is Polaroid

Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce

2010-01-20 Thread Ravi
and then suing Google. But yes, the patent system clearly has problems as you stated. --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Edward Capriolo edlinuxg...@gmail.com wrote: From: Edward Capriolo edlinuxg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Date

Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce

2010-01-20 Thread 松柳
system clearly has problems as you stated. --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Edward Capriolo edlinuxg...@gmail.com wrote: From: Edward Capriolo edlinuxg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010

RE: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce

2010-01-20 Thread Bill Habermaas
, 2010 3:04 PM To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce Just want to ask, how about AWS? Many services/programms runing on AWS are based on M/R mechanism. Does this mean, they owners of these softeware may be targeted in law, How about Amazon itself

Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce

2010-01-20 Thread Edward Capriolo
problems as you stated. --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Edward Capriolo edlinuxg...@gmail.com wrote: From: Edward Capriolo edlinuxg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:09 PM Interesting

Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce

2010-01-20 Thread brien colwell
Personally, it seems like they gave away too much information before they had the patent. I'm not a patent lawyer, but I'd expect they submitted the patent application or a provisional before they submitted their academic paper or other public disclosure. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM,

Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce

2010-01-20 Thread Colin Freas
Developers do themselves, their code, and their users a disservice if they lack some understanding of intellectual property law. It can be complicated, but it isn't rocket science. In the United States, Google is protected by the first to

Re: Google has obtained the patent over mapreduce

2010-01-20 Thread Bill Graham
Typically companies will patent their IP as a defensive measure to protect themselves from being sued, as has been pointed out already. Another typical reason is to exercise the patent against companies that present a challenge to their core business. I would bet that unless you're making a