Re: [logging] commons logging stubs [was Re: [jci] c#]

2005-11-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 21:04 +1300, Simon Kitching wrote: > > Can a new release of CL rule out all the classloading problems > > people had before? > > > What's currently in SVN head will probably fix 90% of the problems, and > is about 99% backwards compatible. I would love to see it released,

Re: [logging] commons logging stubs [was Re: [jci] c#]

2005-11-10 Thread Simon Kitching
On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 21:14 +, robert burrell donkin wrote: > i agree with ceki that the future is static (rather than dynamic) > binding. i prefer bytecode engineering to different compilation. And I agree with both of you - provided one of the static implementations provides much of the cl

Re: [logging] commons logging stubs [was Re: [jci] c#]

2005-11-10 Thread Simon Kitching
On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 12:48 +0100, Torsten Curdt wrote: > > I also talked about removing the commons-logging dependency (which > > seemed to be in agreeance at the time), > > as at least in our environment we don't use it. > > The more I think about this the more I get the opinion we should > al

Re: [jci] c#

2005-11-09 Thread Torsten Curdt
Sorry I forgot that. http://tinyurl.com/cqn75 http://svn.plexus.codehaus.org/trunk/plexus-components/plexus- compiler/plexus-compilers/plexus-compiler-csharp/src/main/java/org/ codehaus/plexus/compiler/csharp/CSharpCompiler.java?rev=2723&view=markup Cool will have a look I was trying to av

Re: [jci] c#

2005-11-09 Thread Mark Proctor
true Brett Porter wrote: That might be nice, but I think both implementations are necessary. Not all of us want to run our Java in IKVM. Mark Proctor wrote: The plexus example uses a command line compiler, would be nice if we could use IKVM and use an embedded c# compiler - for much the same

Re: [jci] c#

2005-11-09 Thread Brett Porter
That might be nice, but I think both implementations are necessary. Not all of us want to run our Java in IKVM. Mark Proctor wrote: The plexus example uses a command line compiler, would be nice if we could use IKVM and use an embedded c# compiler - for much the same reason why its nice to use

Re: [jci] c#

2005-11-09 Thread Mark Proctor
The plexus example uses a command line compiler, would be nice if we could use IKVM and use an embedded c# compiler - for much the same reason why its nice to use Janino or Eclipse JDT over javac. Mark Brett Porter wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: Some time back (and I'm still trying to get around

Re: [jci] c#

2005-11-09 Thread Brett Porter
Torsten Curdt wrote: Some time back (and I'm still trying to get around to it), I talked about merging plexus-compiler with JCI. plexus-compiler has a basic c# interface (as well as eclipse, javac, jikes). For convenience - could you send us a URL to the repository location Sorry I forg

Re: [logging] commons logging stubs [was Re: [jci] c#]

2005-11-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 15:51 +, Mark Proctor wrote: > We've been discussing the logging issue over in the Drools world. We > have decided not to fight against this, at some point or other as we > grow our capabilities and depend more on third party libraries we are > going to find a tool that

Re: [logging] commons logging stubs [was Re: [jci] c#]

2005-11-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 12:48 +0100, Torsten Curdt wrote: > > I also talked about removing the commons-logging dependency (which > > seemed to be in agreeance at the time), > > as at least in our environment we don't use it. > > The more I think about this the more I get the opinion we should > al

Re: [logging] commons logging stubs [was Re: [jci] c#]

2005-11-09 Thread Mark Proctor
We've been discussing the logging issue over in the Drools world. We have decided not to fight against this, at some point or other as we grow our capabilities and depend more on third party libraries we are going to find a tool that insists on commons logging - so might as well be now. Atleast

[logging] commons logging stubs [was Re: [jci] c#]

2005-11-09 Thread Torsten Curdt
I also talked about removing the commons-logging dependency (which seemed to be in agreeance at the time), as at least in our environment we don't use it. The more I think about this the more I get the opinion we should also provide a commons-logging-stub.jar to satisfy commons-logging depende

Re: [jci] c#

2005-11-09 Thread Torsten Curdt
Some time back (and I'm still trying to get around to it), I talked about merging plexus-compiler with JCI. plexus-compiler has a basic c# interface (as well as eclipse, javac, jikes). For convenience - could you send us a URL to the repository location I also talked about removing the com

Re: [jci] c#

2005-11-08 Thread Brett Porter
Guys, Some time back (and I'm still trying to get around to it), I talked about merging plexus-compiler with JCI. plexus-compiler has a basic c# interface (as well as eclipse, javac, jikes). I also talked about removing the commons-logging dependency (which seemed to be in agreeance at the t

[jci] c#

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Proctor
Chinmay Nagarkar is going to donate a c# interface to Drools - http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17469068&postID=112848674485482389 I've been requesting he make this work with JCI via IKVM. If this is possible, with some hard work I believe it could be, we might want to change JavaCompi