Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-04 Thread NetSQL
Jim Seach wrote: Well, It looked pretty good to me on first read too, but I wasn't sure how we would approach it. On re-reading it, the light bulb came on, and I wrote my proposal. Looks like you skimmed it, liked it, and started coming up with implementation options! Nothing wrong with that.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-03 Thread Jim Seach
(Connection, Statement, ResultSet, etc.) to execute object-based queries? -Original Message- From: Jim Seach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:14 PM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-03 Thread James Carman
: Sunday, April 03, 2005 1:59 PM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Henri Yandell Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence What I was envisioning is that the user would write his object persistence using the JDBC API, the whole ball of wax, but use the Commons Persistence JDBC Driver

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-03 Thread Jim Seach
of my code. I'd have to say that I'd be a +1 overall. -Original Message- From: Jim Seach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 1:59 PM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; Henri Yandell Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence What I

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-03 Thread James Carman
Commons Developers List Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence James, I understand your point, but I think my idea fits within both the letter and spirit of Geir's proposal: ... we think that commons persisting should just enhance the mystery and intrigue of adding

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-03 Thread Jim Seach
Commons Developers List Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence James, I understand your point, but I think my idea fits within both the letter and spirit of Geir's proposal: ... we think that commons persisting should just enhance the mystery and intrigue

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-03 Thread James Carman
members? That's what sold me! ;-) James -Original Message- From: Jim Seach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 8:21 PM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence James, You are, of course, correct and make a lot

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-03 Thread Jim Seach
off various and sundry expert group members? That's what sold me! ;-) James -Original Message- From: Jim Seach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 8:21 PM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-02 Thread NetSQL
Great idea! See if some of it can be based on Apache's iBatis SQL and DAO api. If an API let me use iBatis SQL maps or Hibrenate, that would be great. Also... with CoR... in esence you can just use: execute(Map m) for any DAO, Lucene, etc. Just put in args in Map, when done put RESULT arraylist in

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-01 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I for one like the idea, except for one thing... I've always been a bit turned off by the persistence solutions that have their own query language, such as Hibernate. For me, any solution that didn't work with regular standard SQL wouldn't be optimal. I believe that if the table names in a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-01 Thread Jim Seach
Well, we could take it a step further: We don't need to invent our own api, just adopt one and write the necessary adapters. I propose using the JDBC api with our own DriverManager and DataSources. The application or library developer will handle their persistence needs using the standard JDBC

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-01 Thread James Carman
List Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence Well, we could take it a step further: We don't need to invent our own api, just adopt one and write the necessary adapters. I propose using the JDBC api with our own DriverManager and DataSources. The application or library

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-01 Thread Henri Yandell
object-based queries? -Original Message- From: Jim Seach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:14 PM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence Well, we could take it a step further: We don't need

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-01 Thread Martin Cooper
On Apr 1, 2005 8:14 PM, Jim Seach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, we could take it a step further: We don't need to invent our own api, just adopt one and write the necessary adapters. I propose using the JDBC api with our own DriverManager and DataSources. The application or library

[FRIDAY] Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Runtime API for Persistence

2005-04-01 Thread Phil Steitz
Martin Cooper wrote: On Apr 1, 2005 8:14 PM, Jim Seach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, we could take it a step further: We don't need to invent our own api, just adopt one and write the necessary adapters. I propose using the JDBC api with our own DriverManager and DataSources. The application