RE: [lang] Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/lang/src/java/org/apache/commons/lang Validate.java

2004-06-02 Thread Tim O'Brien
-Original Message- From: Stephen Colebourne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 5:24 PM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [lang] Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/lang/src/java/org/apache/commons/lang Validate.java I'm confused -- why shouldn't

Re: [lang] Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/lang/src/java/org/apache/commons/lang Validate.java

2004-06-01 Thread Stephen Colebourne
I'm confused -- why shouldn't a class in [lang] have dependencies to other classes in [lang]? Isn't this taking things too far?? Its part of [lang] being broad and shallow. In effect, [lang] is a loose grouping of APIs in a similar vein. As such it should be easily broken into many parts. ie.

RE: [lang] Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/lang/src/java/org/apache/commons/lang Validate.java

2004-06-01 Thread Gary Gregory
I agree with Michael. When did this become is this a design goal? I am against it. :-( It is one thing to say, I'll cut and paste [lang] code /into/ my own project, and yes, I know about duplicating code, not getting bug fixes, etc. It is another to say: Let's inline APIs within [lang] to

Re: [lang] Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/lang/src/java/org/apache/commons/lang Validate.java

2004-06-01 Thread matthew.hawthorne
Gary Gregory wrote: Sorry for the flame but this is a 'shake-my-head-in-disbelief' moment that I find discouraging. I pretty much agree, but from my POV [lang] stopped moving forward a while ago anyway. Most new requests or ideas are rejected as out of scope (which is usually valid), and the

RE: [lang] Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/lang/src/java/org/apache/commons/lang Validate.java

2004-06-01 Thread Simon Kitching
On Wed, 2004-06-02 at 10:54, Gary Gregory wrote: I agree with Michael. When did this become is this a design goal? I am against it. :-( It is one thing to say, I'll cut and paste [lang] code /into/ my own project, and yes, I know about duplicating code, not getting bug fixes, etc. It

Re: [lang] Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/lang/src/java/org/apache/commons/lang Validate.java

2004-06-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, matthew.hawthorne wrote: Gary Gregory wrote: Sorry for the flame but this is a 'shake-my-head-in-disbelief' moment that I find discouraging. I pretty much agree, but from my POV [lang] stopped moving forward a while ago anyway. Most new requests I believe this is