there is one particular flame war that i remember. someone asked a tomcat
question. i quite politely offered a possible solution but told them to
ask on the tomcat list since that's where all the experts hang out. this
descended quickly into a hideous flame war.
Since moving general@ down to th
robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> one of the continual battles we've had at jakarta is policing the
> mailing list and general in particular.
>
> people wanting to join a mailing list from the jakarta list have to go
> through two pages to get the actual lists in order to try to
Stephen McConnell wrote:
> As I said before, Jon is unique.
I hope he is a Apache member!
You bet.
Jon, Pier and I were nominated by Brian Behlendorf in 1999 and where the
first three committers coming from the java world that later became
jakarta/xml
--
Stefano Mazzocchi
Okay, it was funny the first time, but now it's REALLY FUNNY!
/me is laughing so hard he's nearly in tears
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Using Sam as a blast shield seems safer ;-)
>
> Sam Ruby wrote:
>
> > Joe Schaefer wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> With all due respect, you might be
robert burrell donkin wrote:
...
but i'm not sure how much more can be done. the lists are so busy that
they have to be policed.
it'd be a good idea to come up with some better solutions. maybe we
could increase the size of the email footers
Is it technically possible to add *headers* instead o
cat list.
He
replied : I'm on the correct list, so why don't you answer me.. Then jon
replied with his url. After that it happend one more time afaik, which was
an immidiate reply with the url. ;) (probably the previous issue still
remained in memory..)
Just search on love.html and idiot.
er me.. Then jon
replied with his url. After that it happend one more time afaik, which was
an immidiate reply with the url. ;) (probably the previous issue still
remained in memory..)
Just search on love.html and idiot.html to follow the discussion we had
about it on the general list..;)
Mvgr,
Martin
Kurt Schrader wrote:
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Ted Husted wrote:
10/29/2002 6:33:40 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ha, ha. i see the humour. however, someone seeing that on an
official apache web site is going to think it represents the
overall apache viewpoint. i perso
James Taylor wrote:
As long as 'professional' != stodgy then okay. But I'll let *you*
remove it while I stand behind Sam and use him as a blast shield. (who
mentioned he'd be standing right behind you fa behind you)
With all due respect, you might be safer standing behind Jon than
Sa
Using Sam as a blast shield seems safer ;-)
Sam Ruby wrote:
Joe Schaefer wrote:
With all due respect, you might be safer standing behind Jon than
Sam. What's the point of local governance if the governing bodies
are incapable of dealing with trivial issues like this one?
FYI: Jon was the person
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Ted Husted wrote:
> 10/29/2002 6:33:40 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >ha, ha. i see the humour. however, someone seeing that on an
> >official apache web site is going to think it represents the
> >overall apache viewpoint. i personally don't part
Joe Schaefer wrote:
With all due respect, you might be safer standing behind Jon than
Sam. What's the point of local governance if the governing bodies
are incapable of dealing with trivial issues like this one?
FYI: Jon was the person who first nominated me as chair of Jakarta:
http://jakarta.ap
> > As long as 'professional' != stodgy then okay. But I'll let *you*
> > remove it while I stand behind Sam and use him as a blast shield. (who
> > mentioned he'd be standing right behind you fa behind you)
>
> With all due respect, you might be safer standing behind Jon than
> Sam. What
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> >should the apache web sites contain 'professional' (as in 'professionalism')
> >content? if so, does this page apply?
> >
> >
> As long as 'professional' != stodgy then okay. But I'll let *you*
> remove it while I stand behind Sam and u
10/29/2002 6:33:40 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>ha, ha. i see the humour. however, someone seeing that on an
>official apache web site is going to think it represents the
>overall apache viewpoint. i personally don't particularly care
>to be labelled by it. should the
ha, ha. i see the humour. however, someone seeing that on an official
apache web site is going to think it represents the overall apache viewpoint.
i personally don't particularly care to be labelled by it.
should the apache web sites contain 'professional' (as in 'professionalism')
content? if
>
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon/idiot.html
> >
> > might be more appropriate.
>
> Hey - I've got an idea! Why don't *YOU* suggest this to Jon? I'll be
> right behind you. *WAY* behind you. ;-)
ha, ha. i see the humour. however, someone seein
09:47 love.html -> idiot.html
Yes - I had figured this out - but the context set's the tone - start of
with idiot and your on the offensive and every word is offensive. Start
of with love and your context changes. Hense the deep and meaninful
nature of the second version!
;-)
As I said b
.html -> idiot.html
As I said before, Jon is unique.
- Sam Ruby
ginal Message-
From: Joe Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 23:20
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Re: idiot.html
Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Joe Schaefer wrote:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
What is the point
The Jakarta website is managed by lazy consensus. If any of us
working on the site actually took issue with that page, we'd
just change it. I've often toned down some of the pages posted
by our favorite PITA -- and have even been called a "wimp" for
doing so. But no one's ever reverted my chang
ng like
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon/idiot.html
might be more appropriate.
Hey - I've got an idea! Why don't *YOU* suggest this to Jon? I'll be
right behind you. *WAY* behind you. ;-)
- Sam Ruby
-
To unsubscribe,
Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It has been pointed out that Jakarta committers have had very little
> exposure to ASF members. Don't judge Jakarta committers by the
> actions of the few ASF members that have cared enough to participate.
I'm not judging the jakarta committers, certainly
Joe Schaefer wrote:
For the sake of argument, you may assume I have looked at
every document in the http://jakarta.apache.org/site/
directory. If you don't see what I'm driving at yet, I
encourage you to post the url of a similar document anywhere
else in the ASF (outside of the jakarta family,
Joe Schaefer wrote:
If it doesn't reflect the attitude of the jakarta community,
but instead represents the views of one individual, then doesn't
the page belong in his subdirectory? I dunno, something like
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon/idiot.html
might be more appropriate.
"Martin van den Bemt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Please see http://jakarta.apache.org/site/love.html as an
> alternative...
For the sake of argument, you may assume I have looked at
every document in the http://jakarta.apache.org/site/
directory. If you don't see what I'm driving at yet, I
Please see http://jakarta.apache.org/site/love.html as an alternative...
Mvgr,
Martin
> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 23:20
> To: community@apache.org
> Subject: Re: idiot.html
>
>
> Sa
Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Joe Schaefer wrote:
> >
> >>http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
> >
> > What is the point of that url? Do other ASF projects (php?)
> > have similar links on their support site?
>
> No, I think
Joe Schaefer wrote:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
What is the point of that url? Do other ASF projects (php?)
have similar links on their support site?
No, I think that's unique.
It is a long story, and has everything to do with one individual. You
can read more about
Steven Noels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
What is the point of that url? Do other ASF projects (php?)
have similar links on their support site?
--
Joe Schaefer
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