Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

Hank, I want to thank you for stimulating such a great discussion. I think I have an understanding of where your trying to go with this and I understand that having such a free and democratic process of creating an UI for a mobile platform would be very difficult. However, looking at other open

OT: How do I set my digest options?

All, Sorry for the off topic intrusion but is it possible for me to set my digest options to one e-mail per day instead of the dozen per day in digest form per day I get now? Regards, Rod Boyce ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists

Re: OT: How do I set my digest options?

Le vendredi 19 janvier 2007 09:52, Roderick Boyce a écrit : > Sorry for the off topic intrusion but is it possible for me to set my > digest options to one e-mail per day instead of the dozen per day in > digest form per day I get now? You go to this adress : https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/li

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

On Friday 19 January 2007 07:55, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > Gmane to the rescue! > > http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.openmoko.general > > I read from all this the hint that we should start to sort out and > better archive topics by having different tool than an e-mail list. > Let

Child tracker

Hi Dean. You have written a comment on the wiki on the child tracker. http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/ideas/ChildTracker You mention the idea might be patented. Would you happen to know (or be able to find) any of the patents? Maybe it is only patented in parts of the world, so it could

Re: Child tracker

Maybe those (German text only, sorry): http://www.phonetracker.de/ Anwendungen/anw_personen.html Am 19.01.2007 um 11:05 schrieb Ole Tange: Hi Dean. You have written a comment on the wiki on the child tracker. http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/ideas/ChildTracker You mention the idea m

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

* Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070119 07:58]: > > > >Gmane to the rescue! > >http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.openmoko.general > > > I read from all this the hint that we should start to sort out and better > archive topics by having different tool than an e-mail list. L

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

Dnia piątek, 19 stycznia 2007 07:55, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napisał: > I read from all this the hint that we should start to sort out and > better archive topics by having different tool than an e-mail list. > Let us move to a phpBB (or whatever you like) system. Reading forum needs time, read

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

Nope, webforums just plainly suck. Depends on... mailing list plus Wiki (remember anyone can contribute there) should be ok. IMHO, mailing lists usually lack a good archive and therfore the same questions are discussed every now and then and they have a tendency of separating communiti

R: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

My feeling is that long-term development projects usually stick to mailing lists (thinking of kde, subversion & family, ...). Independent groups usually establish a forum. Wiki is good to set things down after some discussion took place. I think it's mostly a matter of getting used to a way of sta

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

* Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070119 11:57]: > > >Nope, webforums just plainly suck. > > Depends on... > > >mailing list plus Wiki (remember anyone can contribute there) should > >be ok. > > IMHO, mailing lists usually lack a good archive and therfore the same > questions are

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

On 1/19/07, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED] IMHO, mailing lists usually lack a good archive and therfore the same questions are discussed every now and then and they have a tendency of separating communities in two groups - insiders who know all the mails of the last two years and ne

Re: data (software) modem / lecture in bochum

On 1/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: well, i wanted to make a data link via a gsm voice call (see [0]) and develop the needed hard- and software for it. Hey Soeren. I brought this idea up last week, and it got beaten down pretty quickly. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

From Get-E website: EDJ comes from the word Edje, which is one of the Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (EFL). Here is a slightly edited (some references related to an old theme format that's no longer in use in E17 have been remove

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

What about using Google Groups? On 1/19/07, Ole Tange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/19/07, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IMHO, mailing lists usually lack a good archive and therfore the same > questions are discussed every now and then and they have a tendency > of separating

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

Good idea! I know that there are mailing lists that are mirrored on Google Groups (like gnu.gnustep.discuss vs. http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/ listinfo/discuss-gnustep) but I don't know how this works. Am 19.01.2007 um 15:12 schrieb Gervais Mulongoy: What about using Google Groups? On 1/19

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

On Friday 19 January 2007 03:57, Andreas Kostyrka scribbled in crayon on the back of a kid's menu: > * Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070119 11:57]: > > And, by being forced to use a webforum, my impression is that people > > tend to think a little more before they write the next ma

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

On Friday 19 January 2007 06:12, Gervais Mulongoy scribbled in crayon on the back of a kid's menu: > What about using Google Groups? Bleah. All the inconvenience of a BB/forum combined with all the drawbacks of web based email. > > On 1/19/07, Ole Tange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/19/0

Artist Help (was Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones)

Hello! My name is Jesse Ross and I've just been kind of lurking for the past month and a half or so. I'm a web designer/graphic designer/ illustrator by trade, and have been contributing to a few open source projects for the past couple of years. Right now I'm primarily involved with the E

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

What about using Google Groups? Bleah. All the inconvenience of a BB/forum combined with all the drawbacks of web based email. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/communit

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

On 1/19/07, Gervais Mulongoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From Get-E website: EDJ comes from the word Edje, which is one of the Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (EFL). Here is a slightly edited (some references related to an old th

7 interesting videos online :)) Re: 23C3 27.-30.12. 2006 Berlin -- Chaos Computer Club conference with interesting program ; )

Salve! Some of the presentations at the 23C3 I mentioned on this list which would be interesting for our OpenMoko/Neo1973 project have now videos online. Probably the others will follow I couldn't join the 23C3 but not the videos are a good chance to see it ;) Big thanks to the organizer, vid

Re: is google.com down? Move this list to a BB/Forum system?

On 1/19/07, Christopher Heiny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 19 January 2007 06:12, Gervais Mulongoy scribbled in crayon on the back of a kid's menu: > What about using Google Groups? Bleah. All the inconvenience of a BB/forum combined with all the drawbacks of web based email. > > On 1

Re: Artist Help (was Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones)

Congratulations, Your work proves that there are good open-source designs ;) Hope you can bring some good ideas to this project also. Regards, Sérgio Bessa Jesse Ross wrote: Hello! My name is Jesse Ross and I've just been kind of lurking for the past month and a half or so. I'm a web design

article in Linux Weekly News, and nice comments

http://lwn.net/Articles/217020/ You've all read the body of the "article" as it's just Sean's reply to Sven's question regarding ship date and specs, but the comments are nice. Here are some that should warm your hearts: Wow. All I can say is thankyouthankyouthankyou. :-) Brilliant! The

OpenMoko development environment (was: Re: Built in PIM app source?)

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Koen Kooi wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark McClellan schreef: Thanks Koen, I'll start looking at the backend. Of course my next question will be, how do I setup a dev environmnet for openmoko? But i'll wait on that one since it's been asked 100

Phone for the blind

Is there a text to speech feature planned. I ask this cause a while back a friend of mine who works with the blind, was looking out for phone to for his students (who are blind) He has already started teaching them to program with emacs-speak. Which I think is kinda cool. Would be fun if t

Re: article in Linux Weekly News, and nice comments

On 1/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Did that one just come out? I thought I saw that a week or two ago. I can't remember for sure (it's at home, and I'm not), but I thought the picture was the same one that's on the linuxdevices website: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/

Re: Phone for the blind

On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 02:48 +0530, Warren Noronha wrote: > Is there a text to speech feature planned. festival (flite) is in openembedded, thus most likely it will be available in openmoko very soon, too. The same goes for sphinx (speech to text). > I ask this cause a while back a friend of min

Re: collaborating on bluetooth audio

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Koen Kooi schreef: > Brad Midgley schreef: >> Koen > >> > What's the openmoko developers' take on pulseaudio? I'm looking at >> how a >> > bluetooth pulse plugin would work out. fwiw, pulse could run as >> its own >> > service or b

Re: A FIC phone with a real keyboard - Was: OpenMoko ON the iPhone

On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 04:07:40PM +0100, Torsten Röhl wrote: > Why - QWERTY keypad ? we have a wide screen 2,8 inch and i > love the new iphone concept without qwerty keypad. I hope that > the next neo1973 generation phones are also iphone like (without qwerty > keypad) ... i think a neo1973 ne

Idea: Use headphone output as a remote control (infrared: control TV, stereo, etc)

This might have been suggested before, if so - ignore it ;) The idea is simply to use the (stereo) mini jack sound output of the Neo to control two infrared leds, in order to control whatever device that can be controlled by a remote control. Why two leds and stereo? I guess this is required in o

Re: A FIC phone with a real keyboard - Was: OpenMoko ON the iPhone

Ough! I just can't imagine how to use emacs with this "new iphone concept". While this "new concept" is a fine thing for a phone, I'd like to be able to do _real_ work with it. I'm a developer, so my main tool is emacs, but there are more tasks (e.g. email/mail) where a kbd would be usefull. Wi

Visual Voicemail

Might we be able to have visual voicemail, as advertised with the iPhone...or is this service provider dependent? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: Alternative input, like Dasher

20 words? That's actually a pretty acceptable speed I think. I can achieve about 30 words per minute on a regular cell phone, so I can imagine it will be possible to get there with quickscript or similar, through practice. I've been playing a little with an idea I had, so I tried putting somethi

Re: Idea: Use headphone output as a remote control (infrared: control TV, stereo, etc)

On 1/19/07, MartinG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This might have been suggested before, if so - ignore it ;) The idea is simply to use the (stereo) mini jack sound output of the Neo to control two infrared leds, in order to control whatever device that can be controlled by a remote control. Why tw

Re: Visual Voicemail

It is my understanding that Visual Voicemail is a feature that is purely iPhone + Cingular. On 1/19/07, Christopher Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Might we be able to have visual voicemail, as advertised with the iPhone...or is this service provider dependent? _

Re: A FIC phone with a real keyboard - Was: OpenMoko ON the iPhone

On 1/19/07, Josef Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 04:07:40PM +0100, Torsten Röhl wrote: > Why - QWERTY keypad ? we have a wide screen 2,8 inch and i > love the new iphone concept without qwerty keypad. I hope that > the next neo1973 generation phones are also iphone lik

Re: Visual Voicemail

Visual voicemail requires back-end support from the carrier. On 1/19/07 5:34 PM, "Gervais Mulongoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is my understanding that Visual Voicemail is a feature that is purely > iPhone + Cingular. > > On 1/19/07, Christopher Ellison < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: Visual Voicemail

Visual voicemail requires back-end support from the carrier. Think like a hacker. Why couldn't we scrape it? Austin ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Visual Voicemail

Austin Taylor writes: >> Visual voicemail requires back-end support from the carrier. > >Think like a hacker. Why couldn't we scrape it? No camera? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/list

Re: Visual Voicemail

On 1/19/07 8:20 PM, "Austin Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Visual voicemail requires back-end support from the carrier. > > Think like a hacker. Why couldn't we scrape it? Um, because, all other things being equal, you'd have to parse out an audio stream to get at the information you'd n

Re: Visual Voicemail

The best bet may be to come up with a standard, well-designed API that carriers could implement to allow handsets to get visual voicemail. In a few years or less, some carriers may get behind it. On 1/19/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/19/07 8:20 PM, "Austin Taylor" <[EMA

Re: Visual Voicemail

On 1/19/07 8:56 PM, "Pius A. Uzamere II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >The best bet may be to come up with a standard, well-designed API >> >that carriers could implement to allow handsets to get visual voicemail. >> >In a few years or less, some carriers may get behind it. > That¹s absolutely t

Re: Visual Voicemail

Um, because, all other things being equal, you'd have to parse out an audio stream to get at the information you'd need...? Having just sent myself a voicemail and then listened to it, it seems that the messages aren't denoted by tones like I had hoped. Knowing what to record, then, would be rat

Re: Visual Voicemail

On Jan 19, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Austin Taylor wrote: Think like a hacker. Why couldn't we scrape it? Think like a developer: how can we make it work? Think like an entrepreneur: is there a solution here that we can offer? Can we transform GSM-as-usual into a transport? If GSM is just the

Free Your Phone

Dear Community, "The most profound technologies are those that disappear. They weave themselves into the fabric of everyday life until they are indistinguishable from it." Mark Weiser wrote those words almost 15 years ago in a Scientific American article titled, "The Computer for the 21st Century

Re: OpenMoko at SCALE

Is this still on the schedual? I am looking forward to some hands-on time with the 1st OpenMoko phone... Joe On 11/29/06, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/28/06 8:24 AM, "Joe Bushong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any chance of the OpenMoko team participating in the Southern > C

System block diagram?

Hi all, I'm sorry if it was already covered on the list. Do we have any diagram of initial hardware architecture? Was there any discussion regarding which baseband & application processor(s) we will use? Thanks, Jiyang Kang ___ OpenMoko community mai

RE: Neither iPhone or OpenMoko are revolutionary

I know some people at Truphone but haven't mentioned FIC/OpenMoko to them yet. Let me know if anyone from FIC wants an intro to discuss. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dia

[OPENMOKO] Great Job

> I would like to suggest that we look into developing some sort of VoIP transferral software Hi all, I'm quite new on this list but would like to give my opinion :) Your idea seems interesting, but the OpenMoko will not include Wifi :( My suggestion is why not using bluetooth for such? An interest

Re: Register article

Another article about OpenMoko on a tech site. This one talk about the OpenMoko interface compared to iPhone one. The link : http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/openmoko-smartphone-did-they-have-a-time-machine-or-what-229243.php -- slubman (aka Nicolas DOUALOT) mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] j

Re: "2.5G NOT EDGE"

On 1/16/07, Craig St Jean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, Just wondering, does that mean its EVDO? Or something else? I have Cingular, which supports I believe only EDGE (2G and 2.5G?) and 3G. Could someone please expand on the "2.5G NOT EDGE" line? Thanks! This will work fine on Cingular; C

Re: Sync from Kalendar/Address to KDEPIM

On 1/18/07 8:28 PM, "Eildert Groeneveld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have read somewhere that the Neo folks have teamed up with some Sync > Company. > > can we have some details? We're working with Funambol on SyncML and (soon) push email. -Sean

Re: Child tracker

On 1/19/07 11:05 AM, "Ole Tange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You have written a comment on the wiki on the child tracker. > http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/ideas/ChildTracker For the record, I've read this information and _strongly_ approve of the work that's been done. Please everyone