Re: Marketing... aGPS uses

2007/7/21, Adam Krikstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: AGPS is where focus needs to be. This natural (and free) comparative advantage needs to be developed to attract new developers and customers. 5. Auto sync location dependent - arrive at home wifi/bt turn on and attempt to sync, sync when movement i

An idea for an advertisement

Hi all, I have an idea for an advertisement featuring Openmoko. Be gentle with the flames though. A dude dressed in t-shirt and jeans (deja-vu?), walks through a crowded lane. Everyone except him are dressed in prison clothes and march in the opposite direction with their "closed" phones, some of t

Re: An idea for an advertisement

Sudharshan S schrieb: Hi all, I have an idea for an advertisement featuring Openmoko. Be gentle with the flames though. A dude dressed in t-shirt and jeans (deja-vu?), walks through a crowded lane. Everyone except him are dressed in prison clothes and march in the opposite direction with their "c

Re: Significant Numbers of Non-Developers?

Ortwin Regel wrote: > Order #1833 here and not a developer at all. My last Linux experience > was that I changed the screen resolution in Suse 9 to something that > didn't work and wasn't able to change it back and get back to the GUI. > :P Still, I need this phone and I need it now. It's the phone

Re: community Digest, Vol 36, Issue 45

Eric van Horssen wrote: > > Have a look at what Harald wrote in his weblog on the 17th. > FIC is a B2B not a B2C, I don't think they ever before sold directly to > customers. > So FIC can't provide them with any knowledge about B2C, this is just > totally new for them True, I saw that as well. I

FM receiver and Traffic Message Channel?

Hello! I'm wondering if there's an FM radio receiver built into the Neo1973 or any plan to include in the future. At least in the wiki pages I could barely find information about that. It would be interesting to be able to receive traffic information by TMC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_M

Re: An idea for an advertisement

Sudharshan, I think that's a great idea. I wonder if it will bring up memories of Apple's 1984 campaign and whether that would be a good or bad thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8 Cheers, Alex -- [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ http://genaud.net ][ 55.67N 12.588E ] [ B068 ED90 F47B 0965 29

Re: Hooks in Base Code

Hans L wrote: > Hey folks, > > Great discussion going on here. I've been putting a lot of thought > into the issue too, so I figured I'd add my two cents. [...] Yep this is very similar to what I'm thinking of. Given that we're all pretty close to what we think we need it's probably time to put

I got charged ;)

...and shipping cost are LOWER than previously mentioned on the page: Your credit card has now been charged by the following amount: Subtotal: $300 USD Shipping: $67.89 USD Total: $367.89 USD Please note that this amount might be less than what was originally mentioned in the webshop, since we

Re: I got charged ;) - me too

Me too. Looks like they broke the logjam! Ian ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: I got charged ;)

what's your rt.internal number ? waiting eagerly :) Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: ...and shipping cost are LOWER than previously mentioned on the page: Your credit card has now been charged by the following amount: Subtotal: $300 USD Shipping: $67.89 USD Total: $367.89 USD Please note that

Re: I got charged ;)

2007/7/21, Peter Trapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: what's your rt.internal number ? waiting eagerly :) It is #1921. I forgot to tell that the sending costs are $30 lower than mentioned in web shop (I'm from Poland). cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailin

Re: I got charged ;)

I got charged too! Shipping: $54.22 USD Originally it was 77USD. I'm in Italy. rt.internal 18xx Bye! 2007/7/21, Krzysztof Kajkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 2007/7/21, Peter Trapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > what's your rt.internal number ? > > waiting eagerly :) It is #1921. I forgot to tell th

OK, the forum is coming..

i'm tired to read discussion about forum is good or bad. i think is good: - can be a central point for new users (users NOT developers) - following a thread in a forum it's a lot simpler - it can have email notification for reply - could be a central point for developers too! - other motivations

Re: I got charged ;)

Marco Crociani - Tyrael wrote: I got charged too! Shipping: $54.22 USD Originally it was 77USD. I'm in Italy. Lucky man! ;-) My order # is 18xx and I'm still waiting for being charged.. :-( Cheers, Stefano. -- Stefano Sanna - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal web site: http://www.gerdavax.it AIM:

Re: I got charged ;)

On 21 Jul 2007, at 16:06, Stefano Sanna wrote: Originally it was 77USD. I'm in Italy. Lucky man! ;-) My order # is 18xx and I'm still waiting for being charged.. :-( I would imagine they are going through the "YES_I_DO" emails in the order they were received back. __

Re: I got charged ;)

FIC/openmoko did a create job :) many persons (incl me) are waiting to get charged on their credit cards like a small child shortly before christmas... Krzysztof Kajkowski schrieb: ...and shipping cost are LOWER than previously mentioned on the page: Your credit card has now been charge

Re: I got charged ;) - me too

Me too, they've broke #2060. UPS doesn't ship on Saturday so lets hope this means a big truck full will be picked up on Monday. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

Am 21.07.2007 um 16:46 schrieb Valerio Bruno: i'm tired to read discussion about forum is good or bad. Me too - it is not important if it is good or bad or forum vs. list. It is important that there are enough community members who want to have it *in addition* to this list. i think is g

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

I agree, a forum is a good idea! More organized and easier searched (without putting that job entirely on the user's end) than a mailing list. I prefer PHPbb, definitely. Invision is more fancy, but I am always seeing those things screw up. Bye, -Dylan McCall On 7/21/07, Valerio Bruno <[EMAIL P

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

A quick search on google showed this: http://www.midgard-project.org/discussion/developer-forum/forum-to-mailing_list_integration/ I think whatever official openmoko supported communication technique is used needs to allow users the ability to choose how they access the information. There is no r

Re: Marketing...

Hello, On 7/21/07, Ted Lemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 20, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: >> It speaks to exactly the problem that we will have marketing >> OpenMoko: how to get Joe and Jane Average to think of the Open in >> OpenMoko as something they care about. > > Don't d

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

Hello, On 7/21/07, Valerio Bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i'm tired to read discussion about forum is good or bad. Do you prefer phpBB or Invision ? personally i prefer the former. I couldn't care less about which system to choose, but I have one wish; make it as fast and usable as possible,

Re: An idea for an advertisement

On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 11:08:47AM +0200, Martin Straub wrote: [...] > Anyway, Openmoko seems to become well-known without further action =-O > The picture attached is from the weekend journal of a major Austrian > newspaper ("Kurier"). > > The text basically says: > > "The Openmoko platform is

Re: Marketing... aGPS uses

Hello, On 7/21/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! That's a wonderful list you made! I have one doubt though - how well would that AGPS chip work, especially in buildings. I have Garmin GPS which does not get signal reception if anything is between it and GPS satellite so it d

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

Valerio Bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - following a thread in a forum it's a lot simpler Not for me because it doesn't provide a threaded view, scoring etc. There's nothing more comfortable than reading this list in your favorite news reader by Gmane. > - could be a central point for develop

Re: Hooks in Base Code

Hi everybody, Coming late into this discussion, but if i could put my 2 cents worth (or whatever that is in euros these days..)... I like the ideas presented here, but i have some experience designing & building real time & embedded systems so some points to think about: 1) The Event Router shou

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

"Torfinn Ingolfsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess asking for a forum <--> NNTP gateway would be asking too much? No: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org h

Re: Marketing... aGPS uses

On 7/21/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2007/7/21, Adam Krikstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > AGPS is where focus needs to be. This natural (and free) comparative > advantage needs to be developed to attract new developers and customers. > > 5. Auto sync location dependent - arrive

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

On Saturday 21 July 2007, Valerio Bruno wrote: > i'm tired to read discussion about forum is good or bad. > > i think is good: > > - can be a central point for new users (users NOT developers) > - following a thread in a forum it's a lot simpler > - it can have email notification for reply > - coul

Re: I got charged ;) - me too

I just got charged also, #2085, Shipping: $8.56 USD to Canada, can't wait :D Jay M Mark wrote: Me too, they've broke #2060. UPS doesn't ship on Saturday so lets hope this means a big truck full will be picked up on Monday. ___ OpenMoko community mail

700Mhz Spectrum

Great article here about the concept of open spectrum I posted a few weeks ago. Could be very very interesting. http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2007/07/20/google_fcc/ Maybe an Asterisk/OpenMoko tie-in? Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I got charged ;) -me too!

#2081, and I am in total suspense! Kyle ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: An idea for an advertisement

I agree with Kent, the fundamental functionality needs to be rock solid. OpenMoko isn't just representing "free phones", it also is representing (embedded) Linux. Before the consumer version is commercially advertised, we need things like calling, SMS, and contact management. On another note, si

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

On 7/21/07, Valerio Bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i'm tired to read discussion about forum is good or bad. i think is good: - can be a central point for new users (users NOT developers) - following a thread in a forum it's a lot simpler - it can have email notification for reply - could be

Re: An idea for an advertisement

On Saturday 21 July 2007 08:18, Sudharshan S wrote: > Hi all, > I have an idea for an advertisement featuring Openmoko. Be gentle with > the flames though. I particularly liked the 'Hello World' part ... :D I had something in mind that was rather simplistic but could easily form a series of ads

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

Werner hinted at an official forums.openmoko.org. If people would just want something temporary, I could probably get an FIC or Linux subform created at http://www.howardforums.com/ (500,000 members). There are developers and network engineers that post there that can result in great threads

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

With news readers in mind, I have one wish for the forums: Really good syndication, either with RSS or Atom feeds. On 7/21/07, Adam Krikstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Werner hinted at an official forums.openmoko.org. If people would just want something temporary, I could probably get an FIC

RE: OK, the forum is coming..

Howard forums rock - so definitely a good location for it. No offence to the OpenMoko guys but if it was important and they were going to put up a forum then should have been done a while ago. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney

Re: Marketing...

Ted Lemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Jul 20, 2007, at 5:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Maybe I stated the obvious, but I would like this phone to be a >> success >> and thats how i see it happening.. start with the basics... > > Like the iPhone, you mean? :') > > Of course it would be

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

Sebastian Krause wrote: "Torfinn Ingolfsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess asking for a forum <--> NNTP gateway would be asking too much? No: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community Hey, that was very nifty indeed! Lets see if this is a two-way gateway as well. --

Another article at "The Inquirer"

The crew over at The Inquirer have posted another article about OpenMoko. http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=41147 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

Sebastian Krause <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Not for me because it doesn't provide a threaded view, scoring > etc. I don't understand your sentence. Forums haven't threaded view ?! Anyway... > And btw, you actually *can* already use this list as a web forum if > you want, and actually in a

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

On 22 Jul 2007, at 00:31, Valerio Bruno wrote By the way, in the long run we'll need a real, user-friendly forum to address non-tech-friendly user. The number of these users can me minimised by having a very good manual. I know that people don't read manuals often but that's because tr

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

On 7/22/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The number of these users can me minimised by having a very good manual. We can all start it and then publish it easily with a online publisher like lulu. http://www.lulu.com/ http://www.lulu.com/author/create.php By the way, does FIC plan to

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

On 22 Jul 2007, at 01:13, Mickael Faivre-Macon wrote: By the way, does FIC plan to make money out of the neo ? Like selling manuals ? Or whatever ? They'll make money on the hardware. Developing a good smartphone OS costs quite a bit of money. __

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

The COGS on this phone should be around $100-110. FIC will make money, but won't make a lot of money unless they sell a lot of them. They are leveraging their expertise, manufacturing, and if they manufacture something that doesn't sell, that is wasted manufacturing resources. I think the busin

Re: 700Mhz Spectrum

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dean et al., I had a very similar reaction to the 700MHz auction debate. It seems like a potentially incredible opportunity for openmoko, asterisk or any number of open platform wireless tech. The FCC is mandated by Congress to get this auction done

Re: 700Mhz Spectrum

On Sunday 22 July 2007 06:16:35 Mischa Beitz wrote: > Dean et al., > > I had a very similar reaction to the 700MHz auction debate. > > It seems like a potentially incredible opportunity for openmoko, > asterisk or any number of open platform wireless tech. The FCC is > mandated by Congress to get t

Re: I got charged ;) - me too

Definately not in order number. Maybe YES_I_DO response order? Maybe just random. No charge at #1912. On 7/21/07, Mark < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Me too, they've broke #2060. > UPS doesn't ship on Saturday so lets hope this means a big truck full > will be picked up on Monday. > > __

Re: Significant Numbers of Non-Developers?

On 7/21/07, Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 20 Jul 2007, at 22:25, Ortwin Regel wrote: > >> Order #1833 here and not a developer at all. My last Linux >> experience was that I changed the screen resolution in Suse 9 to >> something that didn't

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

I like Invision but a properly managed phpBB is nice, too. Only had bad experiences with the ones that weren't kept up to date. What will happen if an official forum is being made? Are you prepared to move all the content (and possibly software) over to the official servers? Maybe we should try to

Re: An idea for an advertisement

Sudharshan S schrieb: Hi all, I have an idea for an advertisement featuring Openmoko. Be gentle with the flames though. A dude dressed in t-shirt and jeans (deja-vu?), walks through a crowded lane. Everyone except him are dressed in prison clothes and march in the opposite direction with their "c