Re: I got charged ;)

2007-07-23 Thread Myk Melez
Myk Melez wrote: Gau, Frank wrote: Your credit card has now been charged by the following amount: ... My Order# 2309 My order number is #1987. My YES_I_DO request was sent by FIC on Friday, July 13 at 6:43pm PDT (Saturday, July 14 1:43am UTC). I received it at approximately 7:03pm (2:03am) t

Re: MokoMakefile under Ubuntu Feisty

2007-07-23 Thread Deepank Gupta
Running Mokomakefile is slow, because bitbake is a bit slow right now and it build lots and lots of packages. Gcc internal error must have come when you were installing qemu. Try sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 More instructions on installing openMoko development environment for Ubuntu Feisty at :

Re: No response since YES_I_DO?

2007-07-23 Thread Ted Lemon
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 23:28 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Has anyone else NOT received any response at all yet since YES_I_DO? I'm in the 1900's, and I haven't heard anything. They've assured us that they aren't fulfilling orders in order of the RT ticket number, so I guess there's no need t

Re: Cancel order?

2007-07-23 Thread Eric van Horssen
Daniel Robinson wrote: I ordered a Neo1973, but I because of work assignments that I got today, I don't think I will be able to work on it for several months. (things are crazy at my day job) Is there a way to cancel an order? ==Dan (Also) see:

Re: building openmoko devel image

2007-07-23 Thread Henryk Plötz
Moin, Am Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:11:32 -0400 schrieb Charles Lohr: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ jar cf > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: cf > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ jar -cf > Unrecognized option: -cf > Could not create the Java virtual machine. > > :-/ Which are _exactly_ the r

Re: Multi-touch, ...

2007-07-23 Thread Mark Eichin
> Obviously multi-touch existed a few years ago (FingerWorks was around Note that Apple *bought* FingerWorks for this technology, and presumably the associated patents. (I have some of the FingerWorks keyboards, they're a great technology on the gesturing side, but as an experienced touch-typist

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Eric van Horssen
Nkoli wrote: FIC is a solid brand name. It may not be tied to the phone industry, FIC is tied to the phone industry, they may not have a market share in the US or Europe but they have in parts of Asia ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@l

Re: No response since YES_I_DO?

2007-07-23 Thread Tim Knapp
Hello Cassj, Yeah I haven't received a response yet either and I'm #2018. Thanks, Tim On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 23:28 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I haven't gotten any response or been charged on my credit card since I > replied YES_I_DO. My order number is 2012...oh crap...isn't that when

No response since YES_I_DO?

2007-07-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I haven't gotten any response or been charged on my credit card since I replied YES_I_DO. My order number is 2012...oh crap...isn't that when the Mayan calendar ends and the World as we know it ceases to exist? Just my luck! :-P Has anyone else NOT received any response at all yet since YE

Re: building openmoko devel image

2007-07-23 Thread Charles Lohr
Charles Lohr wrote: Since I don't really know the community, just say when and I can join the devel lists and move to that. (Or we can just do the discussion off-list) And -- with regards to the log file; the log file seems to only contain what the standard output provides. M

Re: Openmoko and Funambol not working together?

2007-07-23 Thread vivek khurana
On 7/23/07, Mickael Faivre-Macon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I didn't find the logo at any date (didn't search all tho) http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.funambol.com/opensource/partners.html Logo was there a week ago, I too saw the logo. regards VK __

Re: Multi-touch, screen size, and case shape.

2007-07-23 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Yes I agree with all your points. I suspect the Apple patents are on the interaction techniques, and possibly on some specific hardware. Obviously multi-touch existed a few years ago (FingerWorks was around, and I think the FTIR method was invented even earlier). We will see how the lawsuits tu

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Nkoli
On 7/23/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: People complain about the price of the iPhone, ...yet upwards of a hundred thousand stood in line on day one to buy the thing. Dude, this is unprecedented. The phone shook the US industry silly and that industry is still recovering. Just ima

Re: Has anyone...

2007-07-23 Thread Arndt Heuvel
Am Montag, 23. Juli 2007 21:41 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > ...had their purchased phone arrive yet?? > Believe me, no need to ask. If that happens you will see a lot of messages with "yeeepeee" and smilies arround. :-) Arndt PS: ATTENTION! AQTTENTION! Neo1973 has lost his innocence. If you read

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-23 Thread wim delvaux
On Tuesday 24 July 2007 02:08:32 Daniel Robinson wrote: > I already use my browser to read my email. I use Gmail to handle the mail > from my domain. I can read it at home, at the coffee house or at my day > job. great for you but AFAIK almost all ISP offer reading mail from their web page so G

Cancel order?

2007-07-23 Thread Daniel Robinson
I ordered a Neo1973, but I because of work assignments that I got today, I don't think I will be able to work on it for several months. (things are crazy at my day job) Is there a way to cancel an order? ==Dan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list commu

Re: Additional: Re: Multi-touch, screen size, and case shape.

2007-07-23 Thread Jeff Andros
On 7/23/07, Cailan Halliday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I truly believe in this quote, I also found it on openmoko.com. Both multi-touch and a minimalist case truly supports this ideal: -Cailan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.open

Additional: Re: Multi-touch, screen size, and case shape.

2007-07-23 Thread Cailan Halliday
I truly believe in this quote, I also found it on openmoko.com. Both multi-touch and a minimalist case truly supports this ideal: "The most profound technologies are those that disappear. They weave themselves into the fabric of everyday life until they are indistinguishable from it." Mark Weiser

Multi-touch, screen size, and case shape.

2007-07-23 Thread Cailan Halliday
First off I wanted to see if anyone shares my opinion that a multi-touch screen is needed, if at all possible, to make the Neo truly revolutionary. It will both cut down on screen space used for UI and make for a more efficient and intuitive interface. It would even help beyond user input, it cou

Re: app idea

2007-07-23 Thread Robin Paulson
On 7/24/07, Nkoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/23/07, Jeff Andros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there are quite a few people out there who are ringtone fanatics (personally, I can't understand paying 3.99 for a 30 second song clip... to that end, what about a simple ringtone repository? I'm

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Giles Jones
On 24 Jul 2007, at 01:21, Nkoli wrote: If done right, it just might grab a good chunk of the market without needing telcos. If anything, Apple has shown that people are willing to drop $500 - $600 on a phone they can fall in love with. In the US at least. It may not be so with the rest of

Re: app idea

2007-07-23 Thread Jeff Andros
On 7/23/07, Nkoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/23/07, Jeff Andros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > there are quite a few people out there who are ringtone fanatics > (personally, I can't understand paying 3.99 for a 30 second song c

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-23 Thread Ben Burdette
Maybe you're right, and the whole point is here: mailing lists are for geeks and forums are for all other people. We should then have a web based forum. Are you sure ? I find personally a mailing is much easier. You get the messages with your regular mail, you can sort them to a special

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Nkoli
On 7/23/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's unrealistic to think this phone can get huge market share. Simply because you won't have the major operators selling them on contract. Until operators are pushing them and people know what the brand means (ie, reputation) it's going to b

Re: Couple of Questions

2007-07-23 Thread Casey Harkins
Donald Organ wrote: I am rolling around the idea of purchasing the developer unit, but I have a couple of questions: Is anyone using it on AT&T, and what are your results?? Others have addressed the upgrade issue, so I won't. The phone will work with AT&T or T-Mobile in the US (or any

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-23 Thread Daniel Robinson
I already use my browser to read my email. I use Gmail to handle the mail from my domain. I can read it at home, at the coffee house or at my day job. The argument that you have to start your browser seems thin to me. What is a mail reader if not an application as complex as a browser? A foru

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-23 Thread wim delvaux
On Tuesday 24 July 2007 00:06:55 Mickael Faivre-Macon wrote: > Maybe you're right, and the whole point is here: mailing lists are for > geeks and forums are for all other people. We should then have a web > based forum. Are you sure ? I find personally a mailing is much easier. You get the messa

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Giles Jones
On 24 Jul 2007, at 00:09, Nkoli wrote: You're right about business smart phones, but you're not taking nokia's symbian phones and their huge userbase into account. One glance at gsmarena (or any phone website) comments section will give you an idea of how large the non business users are

Re: Couple of Questions

2007-07-23 Thread Kishore AVV
Marco Barreno wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 06:10:25PM -0400, thus spake Donald Organ: No upgrade discount, they decided against that. Instead they made the GTA01 cheaper. I think you may be able to keep the existing case, battery etc and get the GTA02 in board only fo

Re: qemu trouble...

2007-07-23 Thread Lars Hallberg
Jeff Rush skrev: Hi Jeff! As I said... I have build the neo1973 qemu... but 'by hand'... It's a small build vs the mokomakefile build everything that's huge. - Lars, Yes, the onscreen keyboard does work, as in the GUI keyboard you click on with the mouse. I click in the upper-left box (

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Nkoli
On 7/23/07, Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Joshua Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I agree 100% with Coomac. Whoops, name fixed. the people who can't bring cameras to work (a growing number) are going to be a disproportionately large percentage of the people who *actually

Re: app idea

2007-07-23 Thread Nkoli
On 7/23/07, Jeff Andros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: there are quite a few people out there who are ringtone fanatics (personally, I can't understand paying 3.99 for a 30 second song clip... I'm with you 100% here. An app that allows users to make their own ringtones for shareage would be gre

Re: Couple of Questions

2007-07-23 Thread Marco Barreno
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 06:10:25PM -0400, thus spake Donald Organ: > > No upgrade discount, they decided against that. Instead they made the > > GTA01 cheaper. > > > > I think you may be able to keep the existing case, battery etc and > > get the GTA02 in board only form. > > > Has this

Re: Couple of Questions

2007-07-23 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ma, 2007-07-23 kello 18:10 -0400, Donald Organ kirjoitti: > > I think you may be able to keep the existing case, battery etc and > > get the GTA02 in board only form. > > > Has this been confirmed?? I dont want to buy it right now if I am not > gonna be able to upgrade to the version with

Re: Couple of Questions

2007-07-23 Thread Kyle Bassett
Since there are no physical case changes, it would be great if they just offered the board for sale to those that have already purchased the GTA01 kit for a discounted price. I purchased the Neo Advanced, and I really can't afford to spend another 400-600+ on the newer version... Kyle On 7/23/

app idea

2007-07-23 Thread Jeff Andros
I feel almost stupid saying this, but there are quite a few people out there who are ringtone fanatics (personally, I can't understand paying 3.99 for a 30 second song clip... especially because you can't find one that's appropriate everywhere) to that end, what about a simple ringtone repository?

Re: Couple of Questions

2007-07-23 Thread Donald Organ
> No upgrade discount, they decided against that. Instead they made the > GTA01 cheaper. > > I think you may be able to keep the existing case, battery etc and > get the GTA02 in board only form. > Has this been confirmed?? I dont want to buy it right now if I am not gonna be able to

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-23 Thread Mickael Faivre-Macon
Maybe you're right, and the whole point is here: mailing lists are for geeks and forums are for all other people. We should then have a web based forum. On 7/23/07, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The functionality is too close to a mailing list really... It would be another means of com

Re: Has anyone...

2007-07-23 Thread Kishore AVV
guess thats a question on lots of people's minds ... we should just hang on ... being the first in any domain is difficult ... think, moko's done a great job about being open ... lets see how far the rabbit hole goes ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...had their purchased phone arrive yet?? --

Re: Couple of Questions

2007-07-23 Thread Giles Jones
On 23 Jul 2007, at 22:46, Donald Organ wrote: I am rolling around the idea of purchasing the developer unit, but I have a couple of questions: When the GTA02 unit becomes available will there be and upgrade price to upgrade to the new board? No upgrade discount, they decided again

Re: Has anyone...

2007-07-23 Thread Mark Chandler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...had their purchased phone arrive yet?? mail2web.com – What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint ___

Couple of Questions

2007-07-23 Thread Donald Organ
I am rolling around the idea of purchasing the developer unit, but I have a couple of questions: Is anyone using it on AT&T, and what are your results?? When the GTA02 unit becomes available will there be and upgrade price to upgrade to the new board? ___

Re: [Fwd: Re: OK, the forum is coming..]

2007-07-23 Thread Sebastian Krause
Valerio Bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't think that google provides nntp, but you can ask gmane to >> create an nntp gateway. > > I'm trying gmane nntp interface to community list and it doesn't support > thread! all messages are ordered just by date. You're using Thunderbird, and it su

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-23 Thread Sebastian Krause
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niels L. Ellegaard) wrote: > Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> And people who remember the term "usenet" can even look at it with a >> proper news reader. > > I don't think that google provides nntp, but you can ask gmane to > create an nntp gateway. See the sympy gro

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-23 Thread Sebastian Krause
"Ortwin Regel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't like the tree style of discussion. It kind of makes sense on a > mailing list. However, I find it unnatural and exhausting to navigate. Old > school people who prefer threaded view have got the mailing list, I am of > the strong opinion that we sh

Re: Camera on GTA02 / Good Addon-System needed with a chainable bus system

2007-07-23 Thread Samon Bond
I think a good planed Addon-system should do the trick. Like the Wiki suggested there should be a spacer which fits into the back. Some kind of bus which can be daisy chained through all back parts and spacers. So it would be easy to develop a camera back and chain it to the bus. If the bus would

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Mark Eichin
"Joshua Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I agree 100% with Coomac. Sure it would be nice if we had a Digital SLR with > us at all times but that is completely impractical. Unless you are some sort > of weirdo chances are you are not going to be carrying that large camera > around with you ev

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Mark Eichin
Eric van Horssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mark Eichin wrote: >>> It's not the megapixels that matter, it's the quality of the lens and the >>> quality of the CCD/CMOS. >> Right. My simple version of this is "Cameras have lenses" - phones, >> for the most part, don't. >> This is why, for me,

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Giles Jones
On 23 Jul 2007, at 20:37, coomac wrote: No need for snarky comments. Like it or not, non technical people make up the majority of consumers. These are people who are scared to death of doing a mod on their brand spanking new gadget and would instead purchase the gadget with that functio

Has anyone...

2007-07-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...had their purchased phone arrive yet?? mail2web.com – What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint ___ OpenMoko community mailin

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread coomac
On 7/23/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This phone wasn't initially designed for this project anyway was it? No one from FIC said anything about it, but somehow, a bunch of the news articles and blogs written about the phone promise a camera in phase 2. This is why I asked in the

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Eric van Horssen
Ian Darwin wrote: coomac wrote: On 7/23/07, *Ian Darwin* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Maybe so, but as has been pointed out, phonecams are banned in a lot of places, many of them businesses. Go buy an HP or Fuji (or whatever) camera with 5MP and optical zoom for a h

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Giles Jones
On 23 Jul 2007, at 20:16, andy selby wrote The gpio pins? https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt although I'm not sure which ones and it'll be a different pinout for the upgraded processor in GTA02. I'm not sure wether you could connect a USB camera with a hacked USB cable

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread andy selby
Okay, since I seem to frequently function as the injector of some reality into these discussions (aka "wet blanket"), yes, drilling a hole in the case is straightforward. Now, how do you propose to actually wire the camera module into the rest of the system, dare I ask...? The gpio pins? https://

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Ian Darwin
coomac wrote: On 7/23/07, *Ian Darwin* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Maybe so, but as has been pointed out, phonecams are banned in a lot of places, many of them businesses. Go buy an HP or Fuji (or whatever) camera with 5MP and optical zoom for a hundred bu

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread David "Lefty" Schlesinger
coomac wrote: > On 7/23/07, *Giles Jones* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > As mention previously, anything which requires the modification of > the casing will be very expensive and so it's not planned. > > I'm sure however that people will have a go at hack

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Tim Newsom
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:27, coomac wrote: Rather than alienate one group over the other, why not have something for both? A non camera version for those who don't need the feature as well as a camera version with the exact same specs for those who can't live without it? I mean, why have a chi

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Ben Burdette
Rather than alienate one group over the other, why not have something for both? A non camera version for those who don't need the feature as well as a camera version with the exact same specs for those who can't live without it? I mean, why have a chip with camera support if there are no plan

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-23 Thread Ortwin Regel
The functionality is too close to a mailing list really... It would be another means of communication from the dark times of the internet which most developers, old people and nerds might love. It wouldn't help in any way to expand the community, though. We are NOT looking for a way to replace the

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Jeff Andros
What would be kind of cool for the next model, is a clear window in the back of the case, with a plug-in module system behind it. If we could bring the camera interface as well as I2C and SPI out to a connector right there, the people who want a camera to take drunken blackmail shots of their fri

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Eric van Horssen
Mark Eichin wrote: It's not the megapixels that matter, it's the quality of the lens and the quality of the CCD/CMOS. Right. My simple version of this is "Cameras have lenses" - phones, for the most part, don't. This is why, for me, being able to do USB *host* is a killer feature, so I can t

Re: Openmoko and Funambol not working together?

2007-07-23 Thread Eric van Horssen
Mickael Faivre-Macon wrote: I didn't find the logo at any date (didn't search all tho) http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.funambol.com/opensource/partners.html Try this one: http://www.funambol.com/partners/ On 7/23/07, Andy Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've just noticed that t

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Giles Jones
On 23 Jul 2007, at 18:18, coomac wrote: Is the Neo aiming to be the next crackberry, made specifically for business users and a few stragglers from the general population? If so, there's no point in the discussion. However, many people have pointed out that a phone needs a keyboard to be

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Ewan Oughton
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Brad Pitcher wrote: Giles Jones wrote: Also, lack of camera is good for business, many business phones lack camera. Oh, I'm sure we could come up with good business uses for cameras. In an open phone, cameras do more than just take pictures. The key, as you stated, is

Re: Openmoko and Funambol not working together?

2007-07-23 Thread Mickael Faivre-Macon
I didn't find the logo at any date (didn't search all tho) http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.funambol.com/opensource/partners.html On 7/23/07, Andy Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've just noticed that the openmoko logo appears to have been removed from the funambol 'community partners

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Giles Jones
On 23 Jul 2007, at 17:04, Gordon Syme wrote: Me too, while I'd like a camera to be there I wouldn't want it to detract from more important dev work. Well, the driver and software can be made. This project isn't about just one hardware unit. I'm sure a USB webcam could be hacked to work

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Mark Eichin
> It's not the megapixels that matter, it's the quality of the lens and the > quality of the CCD/CMOS. Right. My simple version of this is "Cameras have lenses" - phones, for the most part, don't. This is why, for me, being able to do USB *host* is a killer feature, so I can take *real* pictur

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread coomac
On 7/23/07, Ian Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe so, but as has been pointed out, phonecams are banned in a lot of places, many of them businesses. Go buy an HP or Fuji (or whatever) camera with 5MP and optical zoom for a hundred bucks and wear it on the other hip. You'll be glad you did

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Gordon Syme
Giles Jones wrote: > All of my phones have had such dire cameras I have no interest in using them. I saw a very good reason for always carrying a phone around with you (even a low quality digital) recently. A truck crashed into a BMW at a junction outside my office window. The first thing the blok

Re: I got charged ;)

2007-07-23 Thread Alex Riesen
Krzysztof Kajkowski, Sat, Jul 21, 2007 15:49:37 +0200: > ...and shipping cost are LOWER than previously mentioned on the page: > > > Your credit card has now been charged by the following amount: > > Subtotal: $300 USD > Shipping: $67.89 USD > Total: $367.89 USD Me too: $300 + $50.30 shipping (

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-23 Thread David "Lefty" Schlesinger
Operator phone requirements are huge and ornate, and, essentially, conformance testing is done "by invitation only", only for phones that the operator is planning on selling directly. The requirements for one major European carrier are about 1200 pages in length... The requirements are only availab

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-23 Thread vivek khurana
On 7/20/07, Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > Adam Krikstone wrote: > There's > nothing stopping a GSM provider from blocking all unbranded IMEI's, > including your neo. Different operators have different implementation of the GSM standard, which they call it their "IP-crap-R". N

Re: I got charged ;) -me too!

2007-07-23 Thread Rodolphe Ortalo
Le dimanche 22 juillet 2007 à 09:04 +0200, Martin Straub a écrit : > [...] > C'mon I am #3560 and 54 years old. Will I live to receive it ? I' afraid > my last words will be: "Did it arrive ? No ? Aargh." (dies). ;-) ? > Martin Hmmm. That's the optimistic scenario. Imagine the worst case:

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Ian Darwin
Brad Pitcher wrote: Giles Jones wrote: Also, lack of camera is good for business, many business phones lack camera. Oh, I'm sure we could come up with good business uses for cameras. Maybe so, but as has been pointed out, phonecams are banned in a lot of places, many of them businesses. G

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Brad Pitcher
Giles Jones wrote: Also, lack of camera is good for business, many business phones lack camera. Oh, I'm sure we could come up with good business uses for cameras. In an open phone, cameras do more than just take pictures. The key, as you stated, is to have a fairly good quality camera. _

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Ewan Oughton
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Giles Jones wrote: Coomac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : Was really hoping for a 3 MP to replace my current phone or at least a 2 MP with video to better trounce the iPhone. I still have high hopes for the phone, It's not the megapixels that matter, it's the quality of the

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Giles Jones
Coomac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > Was really hoping > for a 3 MP to replace my current phone or at least a 2 MP with video to > better trounce the iPhone. I still have high hopes for the phone, It's not the megapixels that matter, it's the quality of the lens and the quality of the CCD/CMOS.

Openmoko and Funambol not working together?

2007-07-23 Thread Andy Powell
I've just noticed that the openmoko logo appears to have been removed from the funambol 'community partners list' http://www.funambol.com/opensource/partners.html I know it was there recently. Is there any info on this? Andy ___ OpenMoko community

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread coomac
On 7/23/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As mention previously, anything which requires the modification of the casing will be very expensive and so it's not planned. I'm sure however that people will have a go at hacking the unit and addition a module in somehow. Personally it's no

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 23 July 2007 14:10, coomac wrote: > Hey guys, > > Can anyone confirm whether GTA02 will have a camera or no? The question has > been asked a few times on the mailing list and I've seen speculations, but > no real answers. Seeing as the Samsung 2442 SoC can support a camera > interface, is

Re: [Fwd: Re: OK, the forum is coming..]

2007-07-23 Thread Mickael Faivre-Macon
If you are using the nntp protocol, it means you have a client, right ? My client is Thunderbird, and it supports threads. The last time I used the _web_ interface, it had threads. Mickael. On 7/23/07, Valerio Bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Messaggio Originale Oggetto: Re:

Re: [Fwd: Re: OK, the forum is coming..]

2007-07-23 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On 7/23/07, Valerio Bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying gmane nntp interface to community list and it doesn't support thread! all messages are ordered just by date. So it's the same as reading the messages in own mailbox. Doh. Hmm, which newsreader are you using? I'm using Thund

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Giles Jones
Coomac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > Hey guys,Can anyone confirm whether GTA02 will have a camera or > no? The question has been asked a few times on the mailing list and > I've seen speculations, but no real answers. Seeing as the Samsung 2442 > SoC can support a camera interface, is it safe to

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 09:10, coomac wrote: > > Can anyone confirm whether GTA02 will have a camera or no? The question has > been asked a few times on the mailing list and I've seen speculations, but > no real answers. Exactly, only speculations. Nobody from OpenMoko suggested that GTA02 w

[Fwd: Re: OK, the forum is coming..]

2007-07-23 Thread Valerio Bruno
Messaggio Originale Oggetto: Re: OK, the forum is coming.. Data: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:14:31 +0200 Da: Valerio Bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Niels L. Ellegaard ha scritto: > Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> And people who remember the term "usenet" can even look at it

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread Krzysztof Kajkowski
There will be no camera in GTA02 (no housing changes AFAIK) cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Camera on GTA02

2007-07-23 Thread coomac
Hey guys, Can anyone confirm whether GTA02 will have a camera or no? The question has been asked a few times on the mailing list and I've seen speculations, but no real answers. Seeing as the Samsung 2442 SoC can support a camera interface, is it safe to assume that this feature will be utilized?

Re: Marketing...

2007-07-23 Thread Giles Jones
Torfinn Ingolfsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > Isn't SyncML[1] aka OMA[2] standard on Windows? > Standard as in "there exists a SyncML application for windows thgat > allows you to sync with Outlook ..."? > and if SyncML / OMA is standard, can't we just use that? > > 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/w

Re: Marketing...

2007-07-23 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On 7/23/07, ramsesoriginal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If this is to be used by anyone other than linux geeks it has to have > windows support. completely agree Isn't SyncML[1] aka OMA[2] standard on Windows? Standard as in "th

Re: News-Feedback 26197: Inhaltlicher Fehler in der Newsmeldung

2007-07-23 Thread openmokolist . 50 . minime
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sehr geehrter Leser, vielen Dank für Ihre E-Mail. Der Hinweis ist bereits im letzten Absatz enthalten: "Zielgruppe des Neo 1973 sind dementsprechend natürlich in erster Linie Entwickler." Weiterhin viel Spaß mit onlinekosten.de. Mit freundlichen Grü

Re: An idea for an advertisement

2007-07-23 Thread Giles Jones
Clare Johnstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > Nokia 6110 Navigator - advertised on the back of the bus I followed on > my way home, > and this is way away in Perth Western Australia.. > > clare Thing is, we have better hardware than Nokia in terms of GPS. They use an AGPS solution which is

Re: An idea for an advertisement

2007-07-23 Thread Clare Johnstone
On 7/23/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 22 Jul 2007, at 20:31, Adam Krikstone wrote: > AGPS is where focus needs to be. This natural (and free) > comparative advantage needs to be developed to attract new > developers and customers. Unfortunately people will want Tomtom, much of

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-23 Thread Niels L. Ellegaard
Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And people who remember the term "usenet" can even look at it with a > proper news reader. I don't think that google provides nntp, but you can ask gmane to create an nntp gateway. See the sympy group for an example http://groups.google.com/group/sympy

Re: Marketing...

2007-07-23 Thread ramsesoriginal
On 7/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think most people are jumping way too far ahead.. agree If this is to be used by anyone other than linux geeks it has to have windows support. completely agree It has to synch with outlook. If it does not work seemlessly with

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-23 Thread Mickael Faivre-Macon
Jano wrote: There's already the possibility of reading the list as a NNTP group via the gmane news servers... personally I don't like webbased forums. Just tried it, great service ! Mickael. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openm

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-23 Thread Jano
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > (sbup) > I guess asking for a forum <--> NNTP gateway would be asking too much? There's already the possibility of reading the list as a NNTP group via the gmane news servers... personally I don't like webbased forums. ___

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-23 Thread Jano
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Sebastian Krause wrote: >> "Torfinn Ingolfsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> I guess asking for a forum <--> NNTP gateway would be asking too much? >> >> No: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community > > Hey, that was very nifty indeed! > Lets s

Re: I got charged ;) -me too!

2007-07-23 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd.
Martin Straub pisze: Kyle Bassett schrieb: #2081, and I am in total suspense! Kyle ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mai

Re: I got charged ;) -me too!

2007-07-23 Thread Jonas Berlin
Quoting Martin Straub on 07/22/2007 07:04 AM UTC: > Kyle Bassett schrieb: >> #2081, and I am in total suspense! >> >> Kyle >> > C'mon I am #3560 and 54 years old. Will I live to receive it ? I' afraid > my last words will be: "Did it arrive ? No ? Aargh." (dies). ;-) ? > Martin Man, that w