start writing applications - how?

2007-11-12 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On the list I see next to no mails about people writing applications for moko. What would be the best way to start doing that? I'd prefer some script language over C or C++ by far. Has any script language been integrated into the openmoko default image these days, or would I need to install some

Re: start writing applications - how?

2007-11-12 Thread Emre Turkay
There are python packages available on both the repository and in the compilation output directory, you can install them with ipkg. Practically you don't need any moko specific example or documentation (except gsm/gps related issues, in which case you need to look at the code and interact with

developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko -- where do we stand?

2007-11-12 Thread Ron K. Jeffries
*** I HOPE I AM W-R-O-N-G!!! *** But this issue needs some discussion. Emre Turkay says below, (in essence) --developing scripts for OpenMono is relatively easy GOOD! -- writing C/++ OpenMoko apps is very difficult to almost impossible. BIG PROBLEM... As an interested onlooker I want

Re: Battery time

2007-11-12 Thread Ortwin Regel
Yeah, PLEASE give us a terminal! I'm a complete noob at all things Linux but I already don't feel right if I don't have a terminal to mess with... Later when the Neo is a consumer ready device it might be a good idea to take the terminal out of the versions for the general public (or at least hide

Re: developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko -- where do we stand?

2007-11-12 Thread Thomas Wood
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 09:59 -0800, Joshua Layne wrote: [...] If what Turkay says about the OpenMoko development platform is approximately correct, this project may be doomed. How can we be this far down the road without enough documentation that a larger group of developers can

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-12 Thread Ortwin Regel
On Nov 11, 2007 6:33 PM, Peter Naulls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have concerns about the screen size (even though it's 640x480, it's still tiny) The screen is small but usable. The biggest problem I see is text input but there are some interesting projects and ideas flying around to solve

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-12 Thread justin daly
careful mike, don't feed the trolls. http://peternaullsappreciationsociety.blogspot.com/ i hope we can all appreciate mr naulls and his brief foray down at the very level of the perceived trollish abuse he experience: inflicting it back on a respected and valued member of our community. hatred +

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-12 Thread Peter Naulls
Ortwin Regel wrote: On Nov 11, 2007 6:33 PM, Peter Naulls [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have concerns about the screen size (even though it's 640x480, it's still tiny) The screen is small but usable. The biggest problem I see is text input but there are some

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-12 Thread Ortwin Regel
On Nov 13, 2007 1:12 AM, Peter Naulls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ortwin Regel wrote: On Nov 11, 2007 6:33 PM, Peter Naulls [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have concerns about the screen size (even though it's 640x480, it's still tiny) The screen is small

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-12 Thread Robin Paulson
On 13/11/2007, Peter Naulls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My requirements are: 640x480 (for suitably transcoded movies), [snip broken up requirements] Yes, I'm quite aware that the GTA02 meets these requirements, as does the UTC universal. The question is, do any _other_ phones also fall

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-12 Thread hank williams
Yes, I'm quite aware that the GTA02 meets these requirements, as does the UTC universal. I wouldn't have posted here after all and named those two phones otherwise. The question is, do any _other_ phones also fall into this category? Of course, I do want to run OpenMoko, and will do the

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

2007-11-12 Thread Peter Naulls
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/11/2007, Peter Naulls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My requirements are: 640x480 (for suitably transcoded movies), some of us have been talking off list about a module from Compulab that may be suitable.

developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko and Android

2007-11-12 Thread Lalo Martins
Also spracht Ted Lemon (Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:57:05 -0700): On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 14:39 -0600, William Voorhees wrote: I hope they do it soon, I just downloaded the Android (google) SDK, and I must say I'm rather impressed. The demos are great. But it looks like it's heavily java-focused,