start writing applications - how?

On the list I see next to no mails about people writing applications for moko. What would be the best way to start doing that? I'd prefer some script language over C or C++ by far. Has any script language been integrated into the openmoko default image these days, or would I need to install some i

Re: start writing applications - how?

There are python packages available on both the repository and in the compilation output directory, you can install them with ipkg. Practically you don't need any moko specific example or documentation (except gsm/gps related issues, in which case you need to look at the code and interact with thos

developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko -- where do we stand?

*** I HOPE I AM W-R-O-N-G!!! *** But this issue needs some discussion. Emre Turkay says below, (in essence) --developing scripts for OpenMono is relatively easy GOOD! -- writing C/++ OpenMoko apps is very difficult to almost impossible. BIG PROBLEM... As an interested onlooker I want OpenM

Re: Qtopia?

Samuel Hiatt wrote: Hey all... I just got my neo1973 and I've been playing around with different rootfs flash images, including a few from the scardeycat repository. I still haven't been able to get Qtopia to work with sound by following the instructions on the wiki. I'm wondering if anyone kno

Re: developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko -- where do we stand?

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:10:18 -0800, "Ron K. Jeffries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *** I HOPE I AM W-R-O-N-G!!! *** > But this issue needs some discussion. > > > Emre Turkay says below, (in essence) > > --developing scripts for OpenMono is relatively easy > GOOD! > > -- writing C/++ OpenMok

Re: developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko -- where do we stand?

Let me preface my comments below by saying that I wholeheartedly hope the OpenMoko project succeeds beyond it's wildest dreams. It's an awesome project. > -- writing C/++ OpenMoko apps is very difficult to almost impossible. > BIG PROBLEM... I agree. When I look at the wiki page on how t

FW: [Dean Collins] Disney going to Japan

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Re: start writing applications - how?

On 11/12/07, Andreas Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On the list I see next to no mails about people writing applications for > moko. What would be the best way to start doing that? > you're on the community list... that kind of stuff should either be on openmoko-dev or openmoko-apps dep

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Re: developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko -- where do we stand?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. When I look at the wiki page on how to develop a simple 'Hello World' application I get very concerned .. am I missing something? Why is this process so complex? Is there an easier way? If so, where is this posted? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Application

Re: developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko -- where do we stand?

Mike Montour wrote: It can be as easy as: ./build/tmp/cross/arm-linux/bin/gcc -o hello hello.c (once you've built the cross-compile toolchain with MokoMakefile) There is a working downloadable toolchain at qtopia.net. Of course, it doesn't have gtk,X11. I believe OM is intending to come out

Re: developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko -- where do we stand?

I hope they do it soon, I just downloaded the Android (google) SDK, and I must say I'm rather impressed. -Will On Nov 12, 2007 2:14 PM, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Montour wrote: > > > It can be as easy as: > > ./build/tmp/cross/arm-linux/bin/gcc -o hello hello.c > > > > (once y

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

On 11 Nov 2007, at 18:06, Giles Jones wrote: On 11 Nov 2007, at 17:33, Peter Naulls wrote: For price comparison, the UTC is about $350 and Neo is $450. HTC Universal? If you want one of these get one, but OpenMoko is far from being as reliable and complete as the Windows Mobile OS on it.

Re: developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko -- where do we stand?

On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 14:39 -0600, William Voorhees wrote: > I hope they do it soon, I just downloaded the Android (google) SDK, > and I must say I'm rather impressed. The demos are great. But it looks like it's heavily java-focused, which is a bummer, and there's no platform to run the applicat

Re: Battery time

Yeah, PLEASE give us a terminal! I'm a complete noob at all things Linux but I already don't feel right if I don't have a terminal to mess with... Later when the Neo is a consumer ready device it might be a good idea to take the terminal out of the versions for the general public (or at least hide

Re: developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko -- where do we stand?

On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 09:59 -0800, Joshua Layne wrote: [...] > > If what Turkay says about the OpenMoko development platform > > is approximately correct, this project may be doomed. > > How can we be this far down the road without enough > > documentation that a larger group of developers can succ

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

On Nov 11, 2007 6:33 PM, Peter Naulls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have concerns about the screen size (even though it's 640x480, > it's still tiny) The screen is small but usable. The biggest problem I see is text input but there are some interesting projects and ideas flying around to solve t

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

careful mike, don't feed the trolls. http://peternaullsappreciationsociety.blogspot.com/ i hope we can all appreciate mr naulls and his brief foray down at the very level of the perceived trollish abuse he experience: inflicting it back on a respected and valued member of our community. hatred +

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

Ortwin Regel wrote: On Nov 11, 2007 6:33 PM, Peter Naulls <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I have concerns about the screen size (even though it's 640x480, it's still tiny) The screen is small but usable. The biggest problem I see is text input but there are some

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

On Nov 13, 2007 1:12 AM, Peter Naulls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ortwin Regel wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2007 6:33 PM, Peter Naulls <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > I have concerns about the screen size (even though it's 640x480, > > it's still tiny) > > > > T

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

On 13/11/2007, Peter Naulls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My requirements are: 640x480 (for suitably transcoded movies), > > > [snip broken up requirements] > > Yes, I'm quite aware that the GTA02 meets these requirements, as does > the UTC universal. > The question is, do any _other_ phones

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

> > Yes, I'm quite aware that the GTA02 meets these requirements, as does > the UTC universal. > I wouldn't have posted here after all and named those two phones > otherwise. > The question is, do any _other_ phones also fall into this category? Of > course, I do want > to run OpenMoko, and will d

Re: OpenMoko phone comparisons

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Robin Paulson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 13/11/2007, Peter Naulls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My requirements are: 640x480 (for suitably transcoded movies), > > > > some of us have been talking off list about a module from Compulab > that

developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko and Android

Also spracht Ted Lemon (Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:57:05 -0700): > On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 14:39 -0600, William Voorhees wrote: >> I hope they do it soon, I just downloaded the Android (google) SDK, and >> I must say I'm rather impressed. > > The demos are great. But it looks like it's heavily java-focus