Re: emulator config problem

2008-04-30 Thread Vedran Alajbegović
now new problem, i can't find any instructions how to apply patches for gta02 http://svn.openmoko.org/branches/src/target/kernel/2.6.24.x/patches/ Please can someone help me with this!? 2008/4/29 Vedran Alajbegović <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > and yes.. i finally fall in love with this thing :D >

Re: .Mac like service

2008-04-30 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:54:08 +0200, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: my list starts with: *backing up phone settings, including list of installed packages (in case i need to re-install everything) *backing up e-mails/text messages *storing gps coords in case the phone's stolen/lo

Re: mobile gps gaming

2008-04-30 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:43:52 +1200 "Robin Paulson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i just listened to an interesting piece on the bbc about gps gaming on > mobile phones: > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/digital_planet.shtml > > at 15:40 onwards > > talking about a company in engla

Re: Engineering Driven vs. Community Driven (was Re: Ugliness)

2008-04-30 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi all, although I am jumping in the middle of the discussion, I think I have some valuable contributions to bridge the engineering, marketing and community points of views. Am 29.04.2008 um 20:03 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: On 4/29/08, Lowell Higley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When

Re: Video Playback virtually impossible on Neo Freerunner? (Re:Video of Qt 4.4 on Neo1973: brings iPhone like graphics)

2008-04-30 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi. Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb: > word of warning. you may THINK the freerunner (ta02) and n800/810 are > comparable devices when it comes to video. you would be wrong if you think > this. they most certainly are NOT. very far from that. i have an n800 - i have > done development and

Re: mobile gps gaming

2008-04-30 Thread Dirk Deimeke
Hi, > Interesting. The other obvious game for a GPS-enabled phone is > a treasure hunt including geographical clues. this is called Geocaching [1]. SCNR Dirk [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocaching ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: emulator config problem

2008-04-30 Thread Hugo Mills
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 09:32:28AM +0200, Vedran Alajbegović wrote: > now new problem, > > i can't find any instructions how to apply patches for gta02 > http://svn.openmoko.org/branches/src/target/kernel/2.6.24.x/patches/ > Please can someone help me with this!? That looks to me like a qu

Re: .Mac like service

2008-04-30 Thread Christoph Witzany
Alexey Feldgendler schrieb: On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:54:08 +0200, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: my list starts with: *backing up phone settings, including list of installed packages (in case i need to re-install everything) *backing up e-mails/text messages *storing gps coords i

RE: mobile gps gaming

2008-04-30 Thread Crane, Matthew
It could be taken a step further. - multiple caches and seekers - whenever a chache is found by one person the map is updated (via sms) to show that the cache has been removed - central server could be used to prevent cheating, e.g. send the codes to the server, or "host" phone, which authentic

RE: mobile gps gaming

2008-04-30 Thread Dirk Deimeke
Hi, > It could be taken a step further. great ideas! First of all the phone has to be delivered ... BTW: Where are we now in the progress of mass production? Dirk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.open

RE: mobile gps gaming

2008-04-30 Thread Crane, Matthew
Yea, I'm excited too. I was thinking it would be possible to use the accelerometer + GPS to make the phone act like a "window" into the game world. Where you can look around in 3d. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ian douglas Sent: Tuesd

youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread steve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U05kZfURPig hope you enjoy it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community maili

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread NeoSleg
Thanks a lot for the demo helping us waiting ! On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:39:07 -0700, "steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U05kZfURPig > > hope you enjoy it > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@l

Re: emulator config problem

2008-04-30 Thread Hugo Mills
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Hugo Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (Also, is there a more suitable mailing list than this one for > > these kinds of technical question?) On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 03:06:42PM +0200, Vedran Alajbegović wrote: > you are right, > i should assigne to another l

Re: .Mac like service

2008-04-30 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/30/08, Christoph Witzany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would very much like to participate at such a project (or even kick it off > ftm), as my the plans for my PhD work include creating a service that would > fulfill an important part of this: The transparent storage of data in the > [Web|Cl

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread Tim Shannon
yeah, it's too bad that you couldn't see the screen though, and the software was incomplete. I have yet to see a vid that shows a performance difference between the 1973 and the Freerunner. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:23 AM, NeoSleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks a lot for the demo helping

Re: emulator config problem

2008-04-30 Thread Vedran Alajbegović
you are right, i should assigne to another lists i'm so sorry On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Hugo Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 09:32:28AM +0200, Vedran Alajbegović wrote: > > now new problem, > > > > i can't find any instructions how to apply patches for gta02

Re: .Mac like service

2008-04-30 Thread Steven Milburn
well, if you encrypt the data and store everything as binary, I don't think the version control system would be able to minimize the network traffic. However, I like the concept. If you access the svn server through an ssh tunnel, you'd get the encryption on the link and the reduced traffic. I th

Re: Vienna - group order

2008-04-30 Thread Vedran Alajbegović
Jay, i didn't decide 100% about that jet, i first need to find out how much that would cost me, because in my case i would need to pay someone to send it to me from there or if i get in touch with some old friends that are studding in vienna... but, just want to make sure, is your goup/you ok if i

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:39:07 +0200, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U05kZfURPig Why do they say that they don't know what the final product will look like, but it's going to be thinner? Where did they get this from? -- Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread Ryan Prior
She says it's going to be thinner and then you hear faintly in the background somebody says "No, it's not." On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:39:07 +0200, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U05

Re: Community Update???

2008-04-30 Thread Justyn Butler
2008/4/29 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Anyway I do prefer they're working on shipping the Frerunners to us, than > on writing here... Michael Shiloh is the community manager - he keeps the community updated so the devs don't have to take time off from developing to do it. __

Re: .Mac like service

2008-04-30 Thread Kosa
Robin already listed some of them, but as I think, the list could get bigger, specially 'couse it deppends on the apps we will make for Openmoko. That service might even be something that could bring some new ideas to build software. Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Shawn Rutledge escribió:

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread Tim Shannon
So, why did these guys get early copies of a freerunner to review, when they even admitted to not doing this before, and didn't seem to do any research on the product they are reviewing? On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Ryan Prior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > She says it's going to be thinner and

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread NeoSleg
He says .. ;) (not she) I guess the one saying "No, it's not" must be Steve himself If I'm not wrong ;) On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:08:54 -0500, "Ryan Prior" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > She says it's going to be thinner and then you hear faintly in the > background somebody says "No, it's

Re: .Mac like service

2008-04-30 Thread Kosa
I'm not sure about that, but again as Robin, I think could offer that service for free and set up an account to recive donations from those who want to do it. Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Shawn Rutledge escribió: You would want it to be a commercial service like .mac, with a subscription

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread Steven **
If you've been reading steve's emails ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), he said he handed a Freerunner over to his sons to test out. It's all about who you know, or are related to! ;-) -Steven On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Tim Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, why did these guys get early copies of

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread Federico Lorenzi
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Tim Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, why did these guys get early copies of a freerunner to review, when they > even admitted to not doing this before, and didn't seem to do any research > on the product they are reviewing? ... Because they are Steve's kids?

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread Tim Shannon
My mistake. I watched the video at work :) with no sound, so I just assumed with a name of BVBTechReviews, that it was a (semi) legitimate Tech Review Blog. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Federico Lorenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Tim Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: .Mac like service

2008-04-30 Thread Kosa
I knew you buys will bring some very good ideas. :) Now I think we could even set at least two groups of apps related to this service. One group might be refered for those apps we develop for personal matters as sms storage, contact list, time-zone, language and others like that (encrypted and pr

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread Kosa
I was very sure there would be blood. :D but I think we could try "Pace and phone" as slogan for the Freerunner. Cheers! Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - steve escribió: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U05kZfURPig hope you enjoy it ___ Openmoko c

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread ramsesoriginal
I see a splendid career at techcrunch/engaged/gizmodo for you kids, Steve :D and for the screen, in the "related videos" there is a video from trolltech where they show of a freerunner and you see the screen. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Kosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was very sure there

Re: mobile gps gaming

2008-04-30 Thread Ortwin Regel
We'd need a compass for a working 3D world window. Else the phone can't be certain (though it could estimate) where it is facing. I am very interested in GPS games. A PacMan-like game that automatically generates a level based on the surrounding Open Streetmap data would be awesome. :) A Snake gam

Re: mobile gps gaming

2008-04-30 Thread ramsesoriginal
Urban Tag On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We'd need a compass for a working 3D world window. Else the phone > can't be certain (though it could estimate) where it is facing. > > I am very interested in GPS games. A PacMan-like game that > automatically

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread Jens Fursund
> and for the screen, in the "related videos" there is a video from > trolltech where they show of a freerunner and you see the screen. Where did you find it, could you post a link? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Recognition of Handwriting

2008-04-30 Thread Sebastian Billaudelle
Hi there! While surfing around I found an very nice app called CellWriter (http://risujin.org/cellwriter/). I tried it out using my mouse... I think it's much better then the Windows Mobile stuff! I think it should be no problem to get it fitting to our needs... cheers Sebastian Please do not s

RE: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread steve
Well it was fun thing. I didn’t tell them what to do. After a few Days I bugged them about where is the video? Some finger pointing back and forth. So I said, don’t fix the blame, fix the problem. So they went out to buy a new camera on their own dime. They also bought a old G3 for 50 bucks. For so

Re: mobile gps gaming

2008-04-30 Thread Tim Shannon
I could definitely picture a simple MMO. A game world of locations, and when you get close to a location in the real world, a minigame pops up on your phone that you need to complete for +100 exp, or whatever. You could have a leader board to see who's explored more of the world. I know I'd walk

RE: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread steve
ya that was me. Now that the vid is done I have reclaimed my phone from them. When I have another update I'll give it back to them and let them have another go at testing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NeoSleg Sent: Wednesday, Apri

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread David Samblas Martinez
I think this is the link, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9QLdK6pFCI&feature=related Great video , steven a huge to your sons even with all the envy of the world Jens Fursund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > and for the screen, in the "related videos" there is a video from > trolltech where the

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Jens Fursund wrote: and for the screen, in the "related videos" there is a video from trolltech where they show of a freerunner and you see the screen. Where did you find it, could you post a link? Maybe he meant this: http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=k9QLdK6pFCI&fmt=18 ? -- Treviño's World -

RE: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread steve
Ya, Well I'm glad they finished it so I can get my phone back. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ramsesoriginal Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:43 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

Re: mobile gps gaming

2008-04-30 Thread sven
Geocaching was already mentioned in this thread. However, those interactive games you proposed sounds a little bit like http://www.wherigo.com/ I think it is an interesting application. However it is only available for Windows CE and I couldn't find any documentation of the API :-( Sven   I coul

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-04-30 Thread ramsesoriginal
sure, i meant this one :D On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:04 PM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jens Fursund wrote: > > > > > > and for the screen, in the "related videos" there is a video from > > > trolltech where they show of a freerunner and you see the screen. > > > > >

Re: Recognition of Handwriting

2008-04-30 Thread Heikki Sørum
I'm currently using cellwriter on my two tablet PC's and might have some useful input regarding cellwriter. I agree that cellwriter might be a promising program on openmoko but there are certain quirks that might need looking into. 1. cellwriter need extensive training to recognize handwriting re

Re: Recognition of Handwriting

2008-04-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:48:28 +0200 Heikki Sørum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: 5. can't use it with a finger 6. the gta01 or 02don't come with a stylus you can dock in the phone, so you always have a big separate pen (the one we ship) or need to have some other pointy implement with you to serve as

Re: Recognition of Handwriting

2008-04-30 Thread Hans L
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:23 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 5. can't use it with a finger Sure you can, just grow out your fingernail and file it into a nice point :-P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lis

Re: Recognition of Handwriting

2008-04-30 Thread Heikki Sørum
God points of clarification, I should have mentioned that too. Heikki Soerum. Den Thu, 1 May 2008 08:23:26 +0800 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev: > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:48:28 +0200 Heikki Sørum > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > 5. can't use it with a finger > 6. t

Re: mobile gps gaming

2008-04-30 Thread Michael Shiloh
Was this organized by the group "area code"? M ian douglas wrote: Robin Paulson wrote: i just listened to an interesting piece on the bbc about gps gaming on mobile phones: There was a group of people in some major American city a year or so ago that played a city-wide game of PacMan using