Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

Julian Chu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > I am the leader of building stuff. > > We did a release in 2008.8 then provide a stable feed. > Buidhost is a building machine that build many things with > AUTOREV. That means everything comes from buildhost is *Unstable* > > We p

Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

Hi Al, Unfortunately, this entry wasn't in the wiki at the time I flashed 2008.8. But thanks for the tip. I will try that. Helmut > The VCF import method mentioned in the wiki works fine for me with the > addressbook exported by my old k700i. You can run from the terminal which you > can insta

Re: next Qtopia

Lorn, Will the GPS app also work on the GTA01 (using the hammerhead chip)? Regards, Marc On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Baroukh wrote: >> Does somebody knows when will next Qtopia version be relased (4.4) ? >> And do you know what will be inside ?

Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

Hi Jason, > i think "basic stuff" is subjective. > but obviously this wont be the same for everyone. True, but 'send / receive phone calls' is on everybody's list. > 3. is absolutely terrible. thought it would last at least a night in > suspend. but it doesnt. so it wont ever even get to the ala

Re: next Qtopia

Webkit is a good news. For GPRS, i couldn't make it works with 4.3 but I'll try again. And with GPS ... I hope it will really be "real soon now"(tm) ;) ... thanks a lot. Mike Lorn Potter a écrit : > Mike Baroukh wrote: > >> Does somebody knows when will next Qtopia version be relased (4.

Re: [Was: Illume patch/question] Notification manager

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:47:31 -0400 Yaroslav Halchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: yes - it's the FDO notification protocol via dbus. there's a module for e (the notification module) that can handle this. :) this is your generic "i am some process with our without a gui, but i want to notify the u

Re: next Qtopia

Mike Baroukh wrote: > Does somebody knows when will next Qtopia version be relased (4.4) ? > And do you know what will be inside ? > (my hope : webbrowser and working gprs ...) All I can really say is that it will most likely be released "real soon now"(tm). Webkit is in 4.4. gps/mapping demo ap

Re: Intel Atom

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Jeffery Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any possibility a future model could incorporate the Intel > Atom? They're launching dual-core > models soon at around $43. Battery life would probably be somewhat less > than it would continuing with ARM, though

Re: Intel Atom

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Brad Midgley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've heard the support chips for atom have not been optimized for > saving power yet, so it may be another generation before atom + > chipset + solid state drive will be within any kind of reasonable > power budget for a han

Re: Intel Atom

Hey I've heard the support chips for atom have not been optimized for saving power yet, so it may be another generation before atom + chipset + solid state drive will be within any kind of reasonable power budget for a handheld. If they haven't already, they also need to engineer an instant wakeu

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

Holger Freyther wrote: > testing feeds: > http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/all > http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/armv4t > http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/i686 > http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/neo1973

Qualcomm Snapdragon? (Re: Intel Atom )

What about the QC Snapdragon? Technical Features * 1GHz CPU * 600MHz DSP * Support for Linux® and Windows Mobile® * WWAN, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth connectivity * Seventh-generation gpsOne® engine for Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes, as well as gpsOneXTRATM Assistance *

Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

Hi Kelvie, I wonder if you got it already... I placed an order but since I got fascinated I also ordered some other things which weren't in stock -- thus I am waiting On Thu, 07 Aug 2008, Kelvie Wong wrote: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > GRE

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:34:04AM +0930, Rod Whitby wrote: > Holger Freyther wrote: > >> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1809 > >> > >> Please fix that ticket. > > > > You are right, this ticket needs to be fixed and it is on the way. One part > > of > > the fix would be to remove the dail

Running Free :: Call for Parts

Now that I'm out running around free, I'm afraid I'll drop my Neo and something'll break, like the LCD. There really should be a parts supply and I find no info on it. What is expected is new LCD, as it will get scratchy or it might break from dropping it on the bathroom floor, which I seem to do

Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]

Hi Dale, thanks for your support, we'll make our test report more clear. About notifying those important bugs, we'll also put into our next test report. Regards, Wendy On Wednesday 13 August 2008 18:20:18 Dale Maggee wrote: > Wendy, > > I'd really like to be notified when these bugs are fixed,

[Was: Illume patch/question] Notification manager

Please pardon my ignorance but since > one, but it won't match the theme. as any form of popup was not specified in > ASU's design - i pretty much have no nice and easy support for it. :( I will elaborate a bit although once again please pardon my ignorance since I've never developed such app, no

interesting read? (FOSS and communities)

I thought it might be an interesting read for some of you: [1] "Building an Open Source Community" by Phil Whitehouse Unfortunately I am not familiar with this guy and his opinions, and imho his points listed in the article are somewhat idealistic (which doesn't actually make them bad). I will

Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:05:37 +0200, Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 23:00 +, zing wrote: >> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:01:13 +0200, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:01:13 +0200, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> > You can subscribe to the ticket. Just enter your username in th

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 14:06 (-0700), Russell Sears wrote: > > It works immediatly with FSO and I could phone while GPRS is on. > > Really?!? How? Is there a GUI somewhere, or did you edit the PPP > scripts to enter your provider settings? See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO The scrip

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

Holger Freyther wrote: > On Wednesday 13 August 2008 23:39:06 Rod Whitby wrote: > >> What I do have a problem with is the current situation where buildhost >> builds a daily feed of updates WHICH ARE INCOMPATIBLE with the latest >> Openmoko Om2008.08 released image and which cause major confusion

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

On Wednesday 13 August 2008 23:39:06 Rod Whitby wrote: > What I do have a problem with is the current situation where buildhost > builds a daily feed of updates WHICH ARE INCOMPATIBLE with the latest > Openmoko Om2008.08 released image and which cause major confusion > amongst your customer base.

Re: The illume-config wrench has gone

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:49:05 -0700 (PDT) forestmountain > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > >> >> In the illume-config under shelfs I unmarked all options and thereby >> removed >> the wrench from being accessable on the shelfs. Does anybody know how t

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

Awesome :) On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > development/unstable trees: > > > > http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/all > > > > http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/

Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]

On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 23:00 +, zing wrote: > On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:01:13 +0200, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:01:13 +0200, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > You can subscribe to the ticket. Just enter your username in the CC > > field of the ticket and you get a mail when ever the ti

Intel Atom

Is there any possibility a future model could incorporate the Intel Atom? They're launching dual-core models soon at around $43. Battery life would probably be somewhat less than it would continuing with ARM, though. ___ Openmoko community mailing li

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:29:44 +0100 tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > An idea I came across recently that seems like a good idea is a hybrid > approach, where the devs passively observe /all/ traffic from users > (irc, mailing lists, support mailboxes, bug trackers etc), and can pick > out bits

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

Bear in mind reading this that I'm aware I know nothing of your internal workings, and wouldn't presume to know better. I just hope to contribute something from my experiences, and will take no offence if ignored. Holger Freyther wrote: > --- > Now we have bugreports like the SIM PIN Dialog or t

Re: Illume patch/question

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:07:09 +0200 Thomas Köckerbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: let me take a look. yes - you can do popups. though there is no theme or "standard popup layout" - you can always do your own or recycle an existing one, but it won't match the theme. as any form of popup was not sp

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Tim Erwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Can someone point me towards some good Qtopia images? > > Latest qtopia image here: > http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=77 That appears to be the image that's causing the GSM problems people have e

Re: The illume-config wrench has gone

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:49:05 -0700 (PDT) forestmountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > In the illume-config under shelfs I unmarked all options and thereby removed > the wrench from being accessable on the shelfs. Does anybody know how to get > the wrench back. Illume-config isn't showing as an

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

> Can someone point me towards some good Qtopia images? Latest qtopia image here: http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=77 Cheers, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/ma

Re: FSO 20080812 not recommended

Russell Sears wrote: > John Reese wrote: >> Russell Sears wrote: >>> Thank you! >>> >>> There should be a wiki page for this. Perhaps a table with columns: >>> >>> Image name | Date | Recommended | URL downloaded from | Calls work? | >>> SMS works? | GPS? | Wifi? | Bluetooth | Suspend works? |

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

> development/unstable trees: > http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/all > http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/armv4t > http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/i686 > http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/neo1973 > http://people.ope

Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing

Hi Marcus, Thanks for your great suggestions! I will do my part to translate, spread the word, and install on as many computers as I can. Please continue to let us know how we can help, and keep up the great work! Michael Marcus Bauer wrote: > Hey guys, > > thanks for all your interest!!! I'm

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

Holger Freyther wrote: yeah, this is work in progress. Stuff like two bug trackers, controlling some more fields.. and various other things float through my head and I have to organize this first. Other entities fix that by shielding developers and putting 1st line support there acting as a mul

Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

Hey, as we need some more time to make the build result of org.openmoko.asu.dev and org.openmoko.asu.stable available I have an ad-hoc and temporary solution by providing my build result. So this is from the official branch but my no means an official feed and will go away once the right thing

Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:01:13 +0200, Norbert Hartl wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:01:13 +0200, Norbert Hartl wrote: > You can subscribe to the ticket. Just enter your username in the CC > field of the ticket and you get a mail when ever the ticket changes. do you actually see a cc field/button wher

Re: FSO 20080812 not recommended

John Reese wrote: > Russell Sears wrote: >> Thank you! >> >> There should be a wiki page for this. Perhaps a table with columns: >> >> Image name | Date | Recommended | URL downloaded from | Calls work? | >> SMS works? | GPS? | Wifi? | Bluetooth | Suspend works? | ... | Your name >> | Comments >

Re: Illume patch/question

On Wednesday 13 August 2008 22:07:09 Thomas Köckerbauer wrote: > Btw, how should patches be submitted (trac entry, posting on the project > page, mail, ...)? trac, mail to raster would work. We might need to make this runtime configurable... So trac might be the best idea so our PM does see it.

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

Feydreva wrote: > Does Mokomakefile can build a 2008.8 more recent than the one release on > August 08 of 2008 ? > I setup the Makefile for > OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.testing > and run > make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image > Will I have the "fake" asu, like the one on the daily buildhost ? or

The illume-config wrench has gone

In the illume-config under shelfs I unmarked all options and thereby removed the wrench from being accessable on the shelfs. Does anybody know how to get the wrench back. Illume-config isn't showing as an icon and I don't know where illume-config saves it's configuration. Thanks, Kent Knudsen --

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

steve wrote: > Rod, > > Our QA includes community feedback. If we release early particular elements > in the community will slam us. > We expect that. If we hold back releases, other elements of the community > will slam us. > > So we expect to be slammed no matter what we do. Fun job ehh? >

Re: Illume patch/question

ok -- lets make this thread active so it catches OM people's eyes > struggling is the placement of the operator name label. I did not manage to I wonder if illume or whatever has ability to popup a 'hint' window and also make that GPS icon react on the 'click' -- then the best solution imho would

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

Does Mokomakefile can build a 2008.8 more recent than the one release on August 08 of 2008 ? I setup the Makefile for OM_GIT_BRANCH := org.openmoko.asu.testing and run make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image Will I have the "fake" asu, like the one on the daily buildhost ? or will I have a 2008.8/ASU ? if

Re: FSO 20080812 not recommended

Russell Sears wrote: > Thank you! > > There should be a wiki page for this. Perhaps a table with columns: > > Image name | Date | Recommended | URL downloaded from | Calls work? | > SMS works? | GPS? | Wifi? | Bluetooth | Suspend works? | ... | Your name > | Comments It's linked from the wiki

Replacing the Openmoko Touchscreen

Is it possible to remove the touchscreen from its mounting on the GTA02? Visually it looks possible, but it certainly doesn't seem to want to come out easily. John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmo

Re: FSO 20080812 not recommended

Craig B. Allen wrote: > This is personal opinion only, I have no special connection to FSO. > > The 20080812 build has these issues found in a brief trial: > - no sound (no ring on incoming call, no sound in or out in call) > - no suspend > - no config > > I understand that daily builds are no

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

Mike Baroukh wrote: >> Trust me, to avoid it, >> for a while I really considered shipping a console-image for the framework >> image, forcing people to ssh into to start getting familiar with the dbus >> services... Why try to avoid it? Isn't it the shortest path to a working phone? If the fr

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

> Oh come on. After reading all your (and others') scary messages > about that, I decided to give it a try. So I pointed my browser to > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile. Half an hour later, I had > a build in progress. Most of that half-hour was spent waiting for > stuff to download

Re: How are kernels and distributions related?

> Should kernels and distributions be seen as independent (that is, > can I update a kernel separately from a distribution, and use one > kernel with multiple distributions), or should they be seen as > dependent (each distribution should have a separate kernel)? i think distributions thems

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

The MokoMakefile is great. I've had it working for months. But I still don't know how I would contribute to OM. There's a wiki page about using the MokoMakefile to edit the existing packages. But I don't think that addresses actually contributing said changes back to OM. Maybe I'm just missing

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

steve wrote: > Rod, > > Our QA includes community feedback. If we release early particular elements > in the community will slam us. > We expect that. If we hold back releases, other elements of the community > will slam us. > > So we expect to be slammed no matter what we do. Fun job ehh? > >

Illume patch/question

Hi As mentioned a few days ago I tried to add the operator name into the illume gsm gadget. I've created two patch files, one for the source and one for the freerunner.edc file which is used for illume.edj. The thing where I'm still struggling is the placement of the operator name label. I did

Re: Qtopia issues with 4.3.2-080808

Lorn Potter wrote: > Paul Buede wrote: > >> I am not sure the most appropriate place for this, so I will post my >> issues here and take them elsewhere if there is a better place for them. >> >> I flashed with the qtopia-4.3.2-080808-rootfs-08081019.jffs2 and >> uImage-2.6.24+git30+436204281bcd1

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

Jay Vaughan, 2008-08-13 14:42:23 +0200 : >> Idea of Open Source projects is to release them before they're >> ready, to let community work on them as well. > > That would be fine in our case, *if* we could work on them > concurrently, but there is so much cruft in dealing with the build > environm

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Wolfgang Spraul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For GTA01, we have no big plan yet but we will look at it next. The > biggest problem that stops us is that we are extremely low on GTA01 > phones :-) > I am only aware of 1 (ONE) functioning GTA01 in the Taipei office. A

Re: How are kernels and distributions related?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Should kernels and distributions be seen as independent (that is, can I | update a kernel separately from a distribution, and use one kernel with | multiple distributions), or should they be seen as depende

How are kernels and distributions related?

Should kernels and distributions be seen as independent (that is, can I update a kernel separately from a distribution, and use one kernel with multiple distributions), or should they be seen as dependent (each distribution should have a separate kernel)? /Erland __

Re: keyboard from buildhost in Om2008.8

Benedikt Schindler wrote: > I think this is the keyboard i wonna have. > so, can someone give me a hint, witch package i have to use from this > buildhost ... or witch files i have to save before i reflash > my freerunner? Check out the destructions here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_

RE: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

Rod, Our QA includes community feedback. If we release early particular elements in the community will slam us. We expect that. If we hold back releases, other elements of the community will slam us. So we expect to be slammed no matter what we do. Fun job ehh? Armour plating is required. S

Re: Application to fade screen

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | |/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness Wow thunderbird thought it knew better... that's actually a greater-than symbol not a pipe symbol. - -Andy

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

Von: "Marc Bantle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Wolfgang Spraul wrote: > > 1. how many people want this? > > > +1 +1 > > 2. does anyone in the community step up and compile the distribution > > for GTA01? (there will be some work: size reduction, GPS chip, etc) > > > I'd be fine with a tar.gz -

Re: Application to fade screen

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello all-- | | I was wondering, is there some sort of application that will let me | manually fade the openmoko screen to black? Similar to a screen saver? | Thanks! What are you, some kind of Goth? :-)

Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing

Hey guys, thanks for all your interest!!! I'm currently working like crazy and have a huge mail backlog, so please be patient with me if I don't answer in a timely manner. As with any open source project, well written patches that solve a bug are always welcome. Example: Pavel Machek has sent a

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

I don't know if I agree with the suggestions of this user, but since we're brainstorming, I have one thought :) Discrete components should be managed as separate packages with separate project pages and information and repositories and bug trackers and such. There's no reason for everything to

Application to fade screen

Hello all-- I was wondering, is there some sort of application that will let me manually fade the openmoko screen to black? Similar to a screen saver? Thanks! Lynn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.or

keyboard from buildhost in Om2008.8

Hi, i now know that i hade used false feeds for my OM2008.8 distribution. so i am going to reflash the rootfs with the original Om2008.8 rootfs. (I am good at flashing things now ;) ) Then the big things will work again. (phone and sms. ) But there is one thing i realy would like to steal from t

Re: where can i find the openmoko-contacts2 app source?

Am Mittwoch 13 August 2008 13:16:47 schrieb yuzhong shen: > i cann't find it in the svn repository, or it hasn't released yet, could > anybody help me? Please see svn.ohand.com. It's the 'hito' branch of their contacts application. -- :M: ___ Openmo

Re: ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?

Torfinn Ingolfsen schrieb: > Hello, > I am running ASU (daily builds) on my FR. > Sound has been broken for a while now. When I do 'demg | grep snd' I get this: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dmesg | grep snd > [ 35.92] snd: Unknown symbol mutex_lock > [ 35.945000] snd_page_alloc: Unknown symbol mu

Re: Where are the Om2008.8 Updates?

Hans L schrieb: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Cliff Brake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I want to +1 this. No battery status only the charging lightning bolt (even >>> when its not plugged in). >>>

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

Olivier Berger wrote: > Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> if not, is there a recommended update feed for Om 2008.8 ? >> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/ >> >> There is *no* other feed location for Om2008.08 at the moment, and >> Openmoko are *not* doing public daily b

ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?

Hello, I am running ASU (daily builds) on my FR. Sound has been broken for a while now. When I do 'demg | grep snd' I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dmesg | grep snd [ 35.92] snd: Unknown symbol mutex_lock [ 35.945000] snd_page_alloc: Unknown symbol mutex_lock [ 35.97] snd_timer: Unkn

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

Thanks for the response, the ticket is number 88. Chris On Aug 12, 2008, at 6:39 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Am Montag 11 August 2008 18:39:14 schrieb C R McClenaghan: >> There have now been several posts related to the successful use of >> GPRS on one or more of the softwa

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

On Wednesday 13 August 2008 12:34:06 Norbert Hartl wrote: > Don't forget the problem reports which are a valuable source of feedback > for those developers. So the bugtracker is also for reporting bugs and > enhancement wishes. It is. In the SIM PIN Dialog bug the log was really helpful to identi

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 14:09 +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: > Holger Freyther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wednesday 13 August 2008 00:05:14 Jeffery Davis wrote: > > > >> 2. Better communication between the development community and the end > >> user community. I have yet to see anyone say t

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

>> >> silly me believing not understanding irony was an entirely german >> disease >> ... > > He said the intention was basically 'fork early, fork often'. I > simply > asked 'Why?' He didn't explain the reasoning. > There is no reasoning. Its a destructive policy, plain and simple. ; -- J

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

> Explain to me the reasoning behind forking the software at this point. > What does it accomplish, besides paying lip service > to choice? I'm thinking of the Bible story of Solomon and the two > mothers here. What good is half a baby? Wait until there's something > /worth/ forking. > Can anyon

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

Marcus Bauer wrote: > > gpsd works well and gypsy is not network capable. Simply using your > Neo's GPS from your Laptop does not work. And especially for an > application like tangoGPS it is inherently broken: every nav-application > wants to have the raw NMEA and not some preprocessed stuff and t

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

> silly me believing not understanding irony was an entirely german disease > ... He said the intention was basically 'fork early, fork often'. I simply asked 'Why?' He didn't explain the reasoning. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lis

Re: Where are the Om2008.8 Updates?

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Cliff Brake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I want to +1 this. No battery status only the charging lightning bolt (even >> when its not plugged in). > Not sure if this is related, but I notic

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

>> aaah - but this is what om wants! as per will's words (product >> management for >> OM): "Everyone should fork. Everyone should create their own >> distribution" >> ... >> this is om's intention and desire. >> > > Explain to me the reasoning behind forking the software at this point. silly

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

I mistakenly sent this response via private email to Carsten when I meant to post it to the list. Original Message Subject:Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process? Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:58:41 -0400 From: Jeffery Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> if not, is there a recommended update feed for Om 2008.8 ? > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/ > > There is *no* other feed location for Om2008.08 at the moment, and > Openmoko are *not* doing public daily builds of Om2008.08 ... > >

Re: Ahah: and you released anyway ? - Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]

Michele Renda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Be sure that this won't stop me from trying to be as constructive as I >> can in other technical areas. > > I apologize if I said you was not constructive, but according me is very > important to let them to understand we want to be with them, and not >

Re: Any progress on the "white screen of death" problem?

On Wednesday 13 August 2008 09:47:51 Florian Lohoff wrote: > > In general do not mix feeds and repos, the result is not going to amuse > > you. > > So which repo line one should add/replace to be able to upgrade to the > newer kernel? My simple approach was to add the daily feed from the > buildho

Re: IDA Systems Freerunner sales update

On Wednesday 13 August 2008 15:46:44 Flyin_bbb8 wrote: > Yes but having a creditcard payment method is preferable than wire > transfers, as you'll have to go to your bank, fill a form.. da da da... Decent banks have an online e-banking site. Wire transfers are generally cheaper too. Don't know in A

Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:42:42 +0300 "Risto H. Kurppa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (RHK) wrote: >I have contacted the developer (not about this though) to ask if there >is a svn repo or something for the community to participate. He >(Marcus Bauer) answered that there only the source codes of releases >are

Re: IDA Systems Freerunner sales update

Yes but having a creditcard payment method is preferable than wire transfers, as you'll have to go to your bank, fill a form.. da da da... creditcard you just go to the website put the info there and you got it done much faster... plus in my situation i use an e-card, which is like a mastercard for

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

Harald Koenig wrote: > in Om 2008.8 all feeds in /etc/opkg/ go to > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/ Correct. That is the Om2008.08 feed. > is it ok to use > > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/MMDD/ > > as update feed for Om 2008.8 ?

next Qtopia

Does somebody knows when will next Qtopia version be relased (4.4) ? And do you know what will be inside ? (my hope : webbrowser and working gprs ...) Thanks. Mike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

Thanks for that infomation. I did this testing on Saturday so I must of had a bad build. Can someone point me towards some good Qtopia images? I'd be really happy just to use the Neo as a phone to make and receive calls and text messages, then I'll put 2008.8 on the SD card for tangoGPS and dev s

Re: FSO 20080812 not recommended

FSO daily builds (not sure if these are "official", whatever that means): http://totalueberwachung.de/~alphaone/openembedded-build/glibc/images/neo1973/?C=M;O=D -- Craig Allen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://list

which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

Hi, in Om 2008.8 all feeds in /etc/opkg/ go to http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/ is it ok to use http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/MMDD/ as update feed for Om 2008.8 ? if not, is there a recommended update feed for Om 2008.8 ? thanks,

Re: IDA Systems Freerunner sales update

Hi, I have had a good experience with how IDAsystems handled their busyness with me, and I did a bank transfer my self ( probably one of the few who did so. that is why I am sticking my neck out here). Having said that, I completely understand your unwillingness to deposit money without

Re: opkg upgrade - kernel not updated corectly - Om2008.8

> I'm hoping that Openmoko build leader will announce a change to this > policy, but at the moment you cannot get Om2008.08 updates from > buildhost. Who is that, anyway? Its so confusing. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list co

Re: OpenEinstein Newton emulator - Working?

> Is there any interest? The large screen seems perfectly suited to a > Newton Emulator and the Newton UI really is awesome to behold - just > so intuitive! > Hell yes, count me as interested. Also, anyone want to get a PalmOS emu running? That'd be wonderful, frankly .. ; -- Jay Vaughan

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

>> >> Please issue it when it's READY and not on 2008.9.9 at 09:09:09 >> just for the fun >> of it. > > Idea of Open Source projects is to release them before they're ready, > to let community work on them as well. That would be fine in our case, *if* we could work on them concurrently, but th

Re: Ahah: and you released anyway ? - Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Olivier Berger wrote: > Please re-read > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/025619.html ! > Hi Oliver Usually I do this 2-3 times, because I am not an enlgish native speaker. And with written text usually is a bit more difficu

Re: Ahah: and you released anyway ? - Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]

Michele Renda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This type of comments are the type of comment that I hate most of all. > > Please let the people to work in peace, and if you want to make an > appoint, please make in a constructive way. > > We all was knowing that OM 2008.8 was in very early developmen

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