Am 17.07.2009 um 09:08 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
> I can add three special use cases from customers and friends:
>
> a) one Freerunner is used as the on-board computer of a student-
> built racing car ("Formula Student")
>
> b) two Freerunners have been used in the German Historic Museum
Am 21.07.2009 um 22:52 schrieb steven mosher:
> Glad you noticed that Werner. When we went over the keyboard vi
> was on my mind.
So next year on April 1st the company will be relaunched as vi-
hardware :)
Some corollary:
vi = vi-ntage
Real programmers do everything in vi (e.g.
http://h
2009/7/22 Vikas Saurabh
> > Oh, I forgot. To bring up the touchpad, slide your finger up from the
> bottom
> > left corner. Sliding from bottom right corner brings up the keyboard. To
> > hide the touchpad, slide down on the buttons.
>
> The app really works nicely but if the app is running one c
Laszlo,
excellent link to wildcat, thanks!
Free mechanical tools are the weakest part (aside from free IC design tools),
so this may take a while until it becomes a real production option but it's
definitely on the radar.
I will follow up on wildcat in a little bit.
Best Regards,
Wolfgang
On Tue,
> Oh, I forgot. To bring up the touchpad, slide your finger up from the bottom
> left corner. Sliding from bottom right corner brings up the keyboard. To
> hide the touchpad, slide down on the buttons.
The app really works nicely but if the app is running one cannot slide
the bottom bar of launche
On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 20:13 +0200, Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
> So anybody can show me a working code using the gps through frameworkd?
Like this?
import dbus
import time
bus = dbus.SystemBus()
usage = bus.get_object('org.freesmartphone.ousaged',
'/org/freesmartphone/Usage')
hehe. glad somebody has a sense of humor.
But seriously when I was kid made in japan meant crap, as a young adult
made in taiwan
meant crap ( there were some budding geniuses who felt Nvidia was DOOMED
because they used
TSMC ). To be sure if you do not control the quality at any manufacturing
s
On 7/21/09, Petr Vanek wrote:
>>Looks like someone just did right mouse click on icon in Illume
>>launcher ;)
>
> well, i did many times before but no menu, or am i wrong?
> Petr
You're wrong. I've just this the same as on screenshots with literki
(btw. i don't like keyboard, but "touchpad" idea
2009/7/21 Michal Brzozowski :
> 2009/7/21 steven mosher
>>
>>> 2. you base on "made in China" (synonym for crap in Europe)
>>
>> Iphone is made in China.
>
> Which confirms Christoph's point :-)
LOL XD
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Glad you noticed that Werner. When we went over the keyboard vi was on my
mind. generally I tried to think of the things I could do with the device
rather than the things one could not
obviously do.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Werner Almesberger wrote:
> Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> 2009/7/21 Petr Vanek
>>
>> >> actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it
>> >> let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else.
>> >> like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard.
>> >
>>
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Petr Vanek wrote:
>>> actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it
>>> let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else.
>>> like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard.
>>
>>A tap sound may help too.
>
> optional, pl
2009/7/21 steven mosher
>
> 2. you base on "made in China" (synonym for crap in Europe)
>
>
> Iphone is made in China.
>
>>
Which confirms Christoph's point :-)
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> how about a speech dispatcher to tell you what letter you typed? :-)
Actually a good idea for some folks. Having access to all of these options
via a config would be great.
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>Looks like someone just did right mouse click on icon in Illume
>launcher ;)
well, i did many times before but no menu, or am i wrong?
Petr
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Thanks christoph.
Please feel free to sign up over on the developer list at qi and post
comments there.
Inlined repsonses.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Christoph Pulster wrote:
> Hi,
>
> my thoughts to Qi / NanoBook:
>
> Mistakes repeated from Openmoko times:
> 1. you believe too much in t
On 7/21/09, Petr Vanek wrote:
> while this has been beaten to death already several times, i have a
> question to ask:
>
> how do i sort icons in illume? and how do i make subdirectories working?
>
> Before you reply, please make sure you see my screenshots here:
>
> Two different sorting in List
2009/7/21 Petr Vanek
> >> actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it
> >> let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else.
> >> like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard.
> >
> >A tap sound may help too.
>
> optional, please... hate that tap-ta
>This is not the problem. If you want to simulate a drag, you need to
>have the pointer where the drag takes place. But at the same time
>you're touching the touchscreen and thus moving the pointer under your
>finger. With clicking this is not a problem, because the pointer is
>moved to the place w
>> actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it
>> let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else.
>> like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard.
>
>A tap sound may help too.
optional, please... hate that tap-tap sound :)
P.
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2009/7/21 Petr Vanek
> >Middle button sure. Drag mode is I think impossible, as you would need
> >the pointer at two places at once.
>
> if ever, how about locking the click via checkbox and releasing? (or a
> looong hold would lock, next unlock?) just thinking, i am not certain
> this would be u
while this has been beaten to death already several times, i have a
question to ask:
how do i sort icons in illume? and how do i make subdirectories working?
Before you reply, please make sure you see my screenshots here:
Two different sorting in List (!) view, with subfolder PIM:)
http://scap.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:30 PM, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
>> Did you really like the vibration? Myself I was a annoyed by it.
>
> actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it
> let me know if i pressed the key if i am l
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 02:05:00PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> Rask Ingemann Lambertsen writes:
> >FWIW, you can s/-t raw -c 2 -f S16_BE -r 44100/-f cdr/.
>
> Sure but I have another version for 22050 Hz podcasts so I preferred
> to be explicit.
'-f cdr -r 22050' works as expected a
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 08:47:47AM -0700, steven mosher wrote:
> A while back Wolfgang mentioned that he and I were starting a new venture.Drop
> by and say hello.
Congratulations on getting there!
> http://www.qi-hardware.com/
LOL. My first thought was "quarter-inch hardware". :-)
I
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 03:13:20PM -0400, Warren Baird wrote:
> Here are a few of my own:
>
> - the GPS with tangogps has been really useful to me a number of times,
> especially on business trips
It's good for showing off the high resolution of the screen. Having
480x640 instead of 320x240
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:47:01PM -0700, steven mosher wrote:
> no touch screen. I've got a post on features coming out tommorrow
Perhaps someone figures out how to retrofit a touch screen. Here's an
example of doing so on the Eee PC:
http://beta.ivancover.com/wiki/index.php/Eee_PC_Internal_
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 01:06:21AM +0200, Nicola Mfb wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Rask Ingemann
> Lambertsen wrote:
> [...]
> > Then it won't be turned on. Additionally, without a SIM
> > card, the GSM modem will refuse to turn on the transmitter and receiver.
>
> Uh! I really missed
>Middle button sure. Drag mode is I think impossible, as you would need
>the pointer at two places at once.
if ever, how about locking the click via checkbox and releasing? (or a
looong hold would lock, next unlock?) just thinking, i am not certain
this would be useful anywhere anyways...
>I thou
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> Did you really like the vibration? Myself I was a annoyed by it.
actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it
let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else.
like a very pale comparison to a phy
2009/7/21 Petr Vanek
> MB> Thanks, actually it was doing middle click instead of right. If you
> MB> reinstall from the same url, it should work. What application can
> MB> you test right click in on OM? I've only tested on my desktop.
>
> Michal, i have been using the new mouse enabled literki a
MB> Thanks, actually it was doing middle click instead of right. If you
MB> reinstall from the same url, it should work. What application can
MB> you test right click in on OM? I've only tested on my desktop.
Michal, i have been using the new mouse enabled literki and it's great!
Not needed, just
2009/7/21 jeremy jozwik
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Michal Brzozowski
> wrote:
> > Sorry, vibration doesn't work at the moment. I'll turn it back on in the
> > next release.
>
> OH NOS!
>
Did you really like the vibration? Myself I was a annoyed by it.
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Laszlo KREKACS (LK) wrote:
>On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Yorick Moko
>wrote:
>> maybe you also want to check out:
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/A2DP#6._Devices_that_work
>
>Thank you, I edited the above page to link this page, and moved the
>table over. I
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> Sorry, vibration doesn't work at the moment. I'll turn it back on in the
> next release.
OH NOS!
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2009/7/21 jeremy jozwik
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:50 AM, jeremy jozwik
> wrote:
> > Michal, can you explain the conf file and perhaps where it lives? i
> > want my keypress vibration back!
> >
>
> oh... nevermind
>
Sorry, vibration doesn't work at the moment. I'll turn it back on in the
nex
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:50 AM, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> Michal, can you explain the conf file and perhaps where it lives? i
> want my keypress vibration back!
>
oh... nevermind
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On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> Here's a literki.conf explanation (I will update it shortly):
> http://pvtrace.com/literki_conf.html
>
> Have fun,
> Michal
Michal, can you explain the conf file and perhaps where it lives? i
want my keypress vibration back!
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Shaz wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:47 PM, steven mosher wrote:
>
>> A while back Wolfgang mentioned that he and I were starting a new
>> venture.Drop
>> by and say hello.
>>
>
> This is good news. Congrats and good luck. By the way how are you g
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Yorick Moko wrote:
> maybe you also want to check out:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/A2DP#6._Devices_that_work
Thank you, I edited the above page to link this page, and moved the table over.
I hope it will be more accessible (I didnt find it for the first time).
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote:
>> The best candidate (the most serious open source software) would be
>> wildcat: http://wildcat-cad.blogspot.com/
>> http://code.google.com/p/wildcat-cad/source/list
> How about QCaD ( http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html )
Free QCad is 2D on
maybe you also want to check out:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/A2DP#6._Devices_that_work
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Laszlo KREKACS <
laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I would also like to compare their price and music quality, but I dont
> know
> > how to do it objectively.
>
>
> M
If your code is released under an open source license, _anyone_ can
keep it even if you don't want them to. By applying a FLOSS license to
your code, you gave everyone in the world that right.
Jim
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Patryk Benderz wrote:
>> You can. I have done - you just have to go
> I would also like to compare their price and music quality, but I dont know
> how to do it objectively.
Maybe to link to reviews?
In some review they specify the response bandwith:
Here is a comparison table:
http://reviews.cnet.com/headsets/plantronics-voyager-855-bluetooth/4540-13831_7-326009
> The best candidate (the most serious open source software) would be
> wildcat: http://wildcat-cad.blogspot.com/
> http://code.google.com/p/wildcat-cad/source/list
How about QCaD ( http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html )
or electric for electrical design
( http://www.staticfreesoft.com/productsFree.
Hi!
I was adding the persons who had already tried their bluetooth headset with
intone, and reported to work. Please if you have a working bluetooth
headset add yours to the list.
I would also like to compare their price and music quality, but I dont know
how to do it objectively. Anyway here are
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Wolfgang
Spraul wrote:
> For mechanical design, it's even harder. Werner thinks HeeksCAD is the best
> candidate, so Qi is looking into that now. Our mechanical engineer Tully
> (ex-OM as well) has found some serious problems with HeeksCAD already, that
> he says pr
Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:46 PM, The Digital
> Pioneer wrote:
>> My guess is
>> this is caused by a blip in the signal, which is a part of bluetooth
>> life,
>> and usually mplayer handles it by resetting the pipe.
>
> An offtopic question:
> Do you have a recommendat
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Wolfgang Spraul
wrote:
> Christoph,
> wow I like your list!
> Old mistakes:
>
> #1 Believing in the community? No comment.
>
> #2 Not only do we 'announce' products that are not for sale, but in
> addition
> we have an open roadmap and design the products based on
xChris wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This version 'auto installs' the Android on the device (flash).
> I just killed my working SHR , in order to test it..
> This version has some improvements but its still slow (in my opinion: non
> usable) (my SIM card is ok but I can't make /receive calls)
>
> Chris
>
>
T
AlrightI figured out how to get intone to work with my bluetooth headset!
I have to start a song, pause it and then start it again...but thats alright.
All my keys worked great (same key codes as other poster)
Occasionally I have problems with the play/pause...but it doesnt look like mine
[cut]
> It' all perfect, only one point: applications with no screenshot is a
> bit disturbing, the logo may be substituted with a smaller pic or
> simple a text "screenshot not available".
You are right. I was doing this layout last evening, and had a little
time to find something which would fit
Rafael,
> > (ex-OM as well) has found some serious problems with HeeksCAD already, that
> > he says prohibit him from doing effective work to prepare for plastic
> > injection. Oh well...
> This a surprise to me, as i didn't know this mechanical tool.
Are you a mechanical engineer? Or do you know
maddog,
thanks for your thoughtful reply!
> Fortunately the mp3 issue (as a continued example) can be met other
> ways. Since the designs are open, the addition of an mp3 codec by a VAR
> (and payment of that royalty in jurisdictions where it is required) is
> something that could be done even wi
Hi!
Some underground effort is going to evolve Community Updates.
Patryk Benderz is doing a great work defining guide lines [1] and
showing an example of them for the next community update [2].
I'm forwarding our last mail to thanks it and share.
Community feedbacks, suggestions, collaborations wi
Am Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
> So you need to connect a mouse that is larger than the device to
> position any scrollbars or press buttons? Or does it have a large
> enough trackpad somewhere?
A pointing stick is much smaller...
(And don't tell me a touchpad is
>#2 Not only do we 'announce' products that are not for sale, but in
>addition we have an open roadmap and design the products based on
>community feedback.
A comment on this:
Of course designing a product with as much input and feedback from your
community of customers is important. But when I
> Try #htc-linux on freenode, the experts are there.
>
> Btw., haven't seen you responding to my question about audio. Do you have
> alsa yet?
>
> Cheers,
>
> :M:
Not tried to get it running yet.
At the moment I've just a framebuffer console and ethernet-gadget+ssh running.
Its a lot of userspace
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Wolfgang
Spraul wrote:
> Shaz,
> (cross-posting to develo...@lists.qi-hardware.com, if you have more
> Qi-specific
> questions please ask me over there)
>
>> This is good news. Congrats and good luck. By the way how are you guys
>> planning to go along with OpenMok
hello list. I want to save the image installed on my sd card to the flash
memory. is there any script already tested? what should i not forget? i was
thinking to something like
1) boot from sd
2) format the flash partitions (how?)
3) copy the kernel to the kernel partition
4) copy all the other fi
2009/7/22 Manuel Sangiao :
> I tried to install Minimo on OM, but I got
>
> * * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for minimo:
> * gtk+-fastscaling (>= 2.10.14) *
>
> then I used
>
> opkg -force-depends install minimo_0.02\+cvs20070626-r0armv4t.ipk
>
> and got
>
> * * Warn
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:45:40 +0200
GNUtoo (G) wrote:
>On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 13:38 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
>> On Friday 17 July 2009 21:12:18 Petr Vanek wrote:
>> > as calypso sometimes crashes under heavy load is there a way to
>> > restart it on the fly? power off; power on?
>>
>>
Christoph,
wow I like your list!
Old mistakes:
#1 Believing in the community? No comment.
#2 Not only do we 'announce' products that are not for sale, but in addition
we have an open roadmap and design the products based on community feedback.
#3 We don't need an MPEG-patent license because we d
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:45:40 +0200
GNUtoo (G) wrote:
>On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 13:38 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
>> On Friday 17 July 2009 21:12:18 Petr Vanek wrote:
>> > as calypso sometimes crashes under heavy load is there a way to
>> > restart it on the fly? power off; power on?
>>
>>
Hello list,
were there any successful fixes since posting
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html
Is this the final solution? Please post here your reports.
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Dear all:
I tried to install Minimo on OM, but I got
* * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for minimo:
* gtk+-fastscaling (>= 2.10.14) *
then I used
opkg -force-depends install minimo_0.02\+cvs20070626-r0armv4t.ipk
and got
* * Warning: Cannot satisfy the following d
Am 21.07.2009 um 13:27 schrieb Werner Almesberger:
> Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>> most FOSS. Unless we restrict the Non-G-UI to commandline and
>> ncurses.
>
> I noticed that is has an escape key. So vi will be fine. What else
> could one possibly wish for, except that more GUI designers wo
Werner,
you can mark my words - I am becoming a real mutt fan now.
Unless someone else is faster, I will port mutt over to the NanoNote and
use it as my offline email device :-)
Next time I come visit you in Buenos Aires this will work!
Wolfgang
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 08:27:02AM -0300, Werner Alm
Shaz,
(cross-posting to develo...@lists.qi-hardware.com, if you have more Qi-specific
questions please ask me over there)
> This is good news. Congrats and good luck. By the way how are you guys
> planning to go along with OpenMoko efforts?
Both Openmoko and Qi believe in free technology, so for
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> most FOSS. Unless we restrict the Non-G-UI to commandline and
> ncurses.
I noticed that is has an escape key. So vi will be fine. What else
could one possibly wish for, except that more GUI designers would
draw their inspiration from the grace and style of vi ? :-
> You can. I have done - you just have to go in with the shell - or ask
> them to do it.
That case they had to change their policy. It was written explicitly in
some agreement that they are allowed to keep this code even if you do
not want this.
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IT Specialist
Linux
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:47 PM, steven mosher wrote:
> A while back Wolfgang mentioned that he and I were starting a new venture.Drop
> by and say hello.
>
This is good news. Congrats and good luck. By the way how are you guys
planning to go along with OpenMoko efforts?Are the hardware efforts i
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
wrote:
>
> Am 21.07.2009 um 10:52 schrieb steven mosher:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <
> h...@computer.org> wrote:
>
>> Ouch!
>> So you need to connect a mouse that is larger than the device
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 11:20 +0200, Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I have been using tangogps since the beginning of my Openmoko life (july
> 08), and now I've got lots of openstreetmap tiles stored on my microSD
> which cover useful areas for me.
>
> Does anyone know how I can update my t
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Xavier
Cremaschi wrote:
> Does anyone know how I can update my tiles to get the most up-to-date
> openstreetmap info ?
Check out Yaouh. See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!
HTH!
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Xavier
Cremaschi wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I have been using tangogps since the beginning of my Openmoko life (july
> 08), and now I've got lots of openstreetmap tiles stored on my microSD
> which cover useful areas for me.
check opkg.org for yaouh
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Hi folks,
I have been using tangogps since the beginning of my Openmoko life (july
08), and now I've got lots of openstreetmap tiles stored on my microSD
which cover useful areas for me.
Does anyone know how I can update my tiles to get the most up-to-date
openstreetmap info ?
I don't care to r
Am 21.07.2009 um 10:52 schrieb steven mosher:
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > wrote:
Ouch!
So you need to connect a mouse that is larger than the device to
position any scrollbars or press buttons? Or does it have a large
enough trackpad somewhere?
Ther
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Ouch!
> So you need to connect a mouse that is larger than the device to position
> any scrollbars or press buttons? Or does it have a large enough trackpad
> somewhere?
>
There is a 4 way key that can be used for up/down/rig
Aleksey "AlekSi" Palazhchenko wrote:
> And than I tried qtmoko (Qt Extended Improved)... Slow, very unstable.
> Actually first post in this thread was writing after trying it.
Only Debian based images were slow and this has been already resolved. I
am now in the middle of integrating X applicatio
Ouch!
So you need to connect a mouse that is larger than the device to
position any scrollbars or press buttons? Or does it have a large
enough trackpad somewhere?
What I wonder is how it will compare to this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipit_Wireless_Messenger_(Z2)
and its
opps forgot battery life. Michael shiloh has my unit. When I get some time
I'll just test it.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:57 PM, steven mosher wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:18 PM, GNUtoo wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 08:47 -0700, steven mosher wrote:
>> It would be a great device...I
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 06:18:24PM +0100, Thomas White wrote:
> I'm fascinated that you managed to get a picture (of anything) on the screen
> using the exa-via-dri branch at the moment :).. It contains only a small
> amount of code leading up to the point when I realised the serious problem
> with
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