Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results

2012-01-16 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
/attachments/20120116/cb849e81/attachment-0002.pdf Q2: http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/gta04-owner/attachments/20120116/cb849e81/attachment-0003.pdf Let me describe my first observations from these figures (not deeply elaborated): 1. this result shows that we have a very large bandwidth what we

Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results

2012-01-16 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
The cheapest UMTS Android 2.2 device I can currently get in Germany is at 129 EUR (most likely from some overstock clearance). Android phones start around 20 USD at quantity 1000 in China, see HEDY as one example of many http://en.hedy.com.cn/product/mobile.htm Probably not with 3G for 25 USD,

Re: Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results

2012-01-16 Thread neo
Hi Nikolaus, The cheapest UMTS Android 2.2 device I can currently get in Germany is at 129 EUR (most likely from some overstock clearance). Has a 320x240 display, no sensors, no free and open software. No hardware description, no schematics. Appears to be crap and much less featured than the

Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results

2012-01-16 Thread Radek Polak
On Monday 16 January 2012 08:53:04 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: 3. at the current price of the GTA04 group tour (450-500 EUR range) we can expect approx. 30% buyers. This would still mean 6000 of the originally sold GTA02 devices. Hm. We are still far away from this figure with

Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results

2012-01-16 Thread Martix
Dne 16.1.2012 09:31, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napsal(a): Let me describe my first observations from these figures (not deeply elaborated): 1. this result shows that we have a very large bandwidth what we see as an acceptable price. For some of us the current price (which is production cost

Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results

2012-01-16 Thread Boudewijn
On Monday 16 January 2012 14:24:38 Martix wrote: Dne 16.1.2012 09:31, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napsal(a): (...) But the poll result indicates this is the way we should go. Really? No. Not if I'm concerned. I wonder how the community thinks it can be done at such low prices? Learn some

Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results

2012-01-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Also Raspberry Pi for $25/$35 is too expensive. The Allwinner A10 board with ARM Cortex-A8 and MALI400MP 3D graphics (with Open Source userspace driver) could be manufactured for $15. That is wishful marketing... The $15 is expected (!) @100k units, not at small numbers in the 100 range:

Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results

2012-01-16 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 16 January 2012 09:31:23 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Let me describe my first observations from these figures (not deeply elaborated): 1. this result shows that we have a very large bandwidth what we see as an acceptable price. For some of us the current price (which is

Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results

2012-01-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 16.01.2012 um 18:43 schrieb Al Johnson: On Monday 16 January 2012 09:31:23 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Let me describe my first observations from these figures (not deeply elaborated): 1. this result shows that we have a very large bandwidth what we see as an acceptable price.

Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results

2012-01-16 Thread Fernando Martins
On 01/16/2012 09:31 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: 3. at the current price of the GTA04 group tour (450-500 EUR range) we can expect approx. 30% buyers. This would still mean 6000 of the originally sold GTA02 devices. Hm. We are still far away from this figure with subscriptions. What are