Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > On Monday 02 June 2008 11:34:07 Bin Chen wrote: > > I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition > > has been processed. Suppose a command is send but during the wait time > > of the response, another unsolicited command s

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
I'm not sure about my NDA, but this topic has been around quite some while now. So mickeyl says "it's about evolution, not revolution". GTA03 -the recycled name- (which I'm working on the electric schematics of the device right now) is an improved version of GTA02 (if plans don't change ;), fixi

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-03 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
I'm just working on improving the schematics (like quite some other guys of OM staff), but we at EE are not deciding on key features of future products, we are provided with specs on what to design. Anyway your suggestions and requests will be noticed when posted in this list. cheers jOERG sig

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 4. Juni 2008 schrieb Andy Green: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:53:29AM -0700, Matt Mets wrote: > |> I believe this has been discussed at some point, but there is a > |> file-storage module that emulates a mass storage device: > |> http://www.linu

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 4. Juni 2008 schrieb Andy Green: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > Yes init 1 sounds like the kind of medicine that matches the problem, > but actually doing telinit 1 when you want to share storage is pretty > harsh. I know it's a bit unfair but imagine if that was how thin

Re: duplicate mail

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 4. Juni 2008 schrieb Philippe Guillebert: > Hi list, > > Am I the only one to get some of the e-mails on this list twice ou more > ? looks like the issue is back ... didn't motice it lately. But it's individual issue, seems we won't fix it. I do an occasional CTRL-* on my mail-UA to delet

Re: OT: TinyURL [Was: OT: ajax image galleries]

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb AVee: > On Wednesday 04 June 2008 22:55, Andy Powell wrote: > > > > tinyurl is useful instead of typing in twattishly long urls which many > > sites insist on using. Generally you don;t want to click on a link provided > > by someone you don't know/trust. Not only that

Re: OT: TinyURL

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb Stroller: > > On 4 Jun 2008, at 18:12, Joseph Reeves wrote: > > ... > > TinyURL on the other hand... Why would anyone ever use that? I never > > click on links unless I know where they link to. Here's a plan for > > abuse: > > > > 1: Discover browser 0-day exploit > > 2

Re: GPS <--> AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb Lally Singh: > AFAIK, the AGPS allows you to upload additional information into the > onboard correlator (the CPU that does the actual location calculations > for GPS) to enhance the accuracy over what you get with simple > satellite triangulation. It's about reducing T

Re: GPS <--> AGPS

2008-06-05 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Flyin_bbb8: > just wanted to add, Differential GPS is mainly for aircraft GPS systems to > get better guidance on the ILS (Instrument Landing System). > Aaaaha, I seen it being used for all sorts of archeology and buildings construction purposes. And from the info in

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: > When it comes to GTA03, I will not buy one (because I buy the GTA02), > so I will not be the target. Maybe QVGA is a good solution, or maybe it > should be an option when you buy If I got that right, we "just need to tune some of the LC

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 8. Juni 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: > but there is definitely a "i want as insane a dpi as i can get" group here. > this is for sure. the question is - is it really the majority of users. :) No it's not at all the question - other than for academic insight. If a VGA-screen isn't much mo

Re: Is case design changing for GTA03?

2008-06-07 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 8. Juni 2008 schrieb Ron K. Jeffries: > I'm almost sure I read a comment saying (in passing) that > Freerunner case design will change for GTA03. > > Is the change strictly to accommodate the new 3.5mm plug > for the headset, or are other changes being considered? > We also got a camera o

Re: Is case design changing for GTA03?

2008-06-07 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 8. Juni 2008 schrieb rakshat hooja: > > We also got a camera on GTA03. > > > > cheers > > jOERG > > > > > > > > > Any specs of the camera. This was a quote of a previous posting of another OM-engineer (Carsten IIRC). Honestly I'm designing on the actual schematics and I have no idea yet abo

Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors

2008-06-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 8. Juni 2008 schrieb Yorick Matthys: > Does anybody know if the FreeRunner's case is adequatly scratch-resistant? (I'll post this question on the device-owner list) It's like every of those mockup-rubber softtouch-surfaces: amazingly insensitive to small scratches, but especially on aged

Re: Is case design changing for GTA03?

2008-06-09 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 9. Juni 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: > On 6/9/08, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2008/6/9 Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > With a modular design like that, then you could have one device shipped > > > out with many configurations possible. > > > > > > You coul

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-10 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 10. Juni 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:16:06 +0800 "Wilkinson, Alex" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > 0n Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 01:43:08PM +0800, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > > >we are in a world where to get gfx support to run such high resolutions >

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 - product management, features & assumptions

2008-06-10 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
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Re: No 3G for GTA03, 2G/EDGE only?

2008-06-10 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 11. Juni 2008 schrieb ian douglas: > As an aside, when comparing 2G and 3G: > > Even according to Apple, the new iPhone 3G model will get up to 10 hours > of talk time on 2G but half as long (5 hours) in 3G mode. > > I'd love to learn more about how voice quality differs between 2G and 3G

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-11 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 11. Juni 2008 schrieb Adilson Oliveira: > Hi. > > I'm quite sure the answer is "no" but as I didn't find any definitive > answer for that I decided to ask: does the openmoko hardware support 2 > SIM cards? No. ;-) It's a pity, but the GSM-module won't support that - none will. And anythi

Re: GTA03 camera + any chance to add SD card?

2008-06-11 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 11. Juni 2008 schrieb Ron K. Jeffries: > I understand that GTA03 really needs to be a quick > turn, so the team can then invest in a new Freerunner product > with a serious bump in computing power (for openers). > > I am NOT in the camp that predicts a 12 month cycle > to get GTA03 out, as

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-11 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 11. Juni 2008 schrieb Adilson Oliveira: > So, cells like the samsung d880 just swap electrically between the 2 SIM > cards? The spec say you can use both cards at the same time but don't > say exactly what "same time" means. There are phones out there that use 2 or 3 cards true-concurrently

Re: Click Feedback?

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Esben Stien: > That would be an extremely negligible latency and it would give us > real time dropout less audio on the device, which is pretty crucial on > such a thing as a phone. You really want dropouts in the audio when > you use your system during a call?. > The

Re: Acceleration in our pockets

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Peter Nijs: > Isn't the shared bus an advantage because now it can use DMA? Maybe that's > why > it is possible to hook up an sd-card to the glamo anyway. I see no other > explanation why one would put an sd cardreader in a graphics ship. Please > tell me if and wh

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Bumbl: > would it, in theory, be possible to emulate a 2nd sim-card which was > inserted and saved on the flash memory before > and switch between it and the inserted one? SIM cards implement an on-board crypographic authentication mechanism that simply can't be "dow

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Yorick Matthys: > > this should do the trick: > > http://ucables.com/ref/2-SIMS-IN1 > or > http://ucables.com/ref/SIM-CLONE > you still need the IMSI and Ki numbers, but those can be obtained (at least that is what i read a long while ago) > > but emulating would be

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb David Pottage: > On Thu, June 12, 2008 3:21 pm, Bumbl wrote: > > > would it, in theory, be possible to emulate a 2nd sim-card which was > > inserted and saved on the flash memory before and switch between it > > and the inserted one? > > In theory this is possible if

Re: [OT]Re: Why not use forum?

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Andy Loughran: > The developers must prefer mailing lists. > The day these lists go web-forum, I probably have to quit my job. /jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko comm

Re: GTA03 speculation [UNOFFICIAL]

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Ron K. Jeffries: > I am the one who predicted GTA03 in December 2008 > here's my reasoning for targeting that date. > > as an aside, I think December is the > LATEST date GTA03 will see the light of day. > With the modest changes being made in GTA03, > it would almost

Re: GTA03 speculation [UNOFFICIAL]

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Ken Young: > Ron K. Jeffries wrote: > > > GTA03 is a fairly small re-spin of GTA02. > > They are not doing anything very risky. > > > > The biggest change is a new GSM radio that > > supports EDGE, which is much faster > > than GPRS that GTA02 has. > > Do we know if t

Re: GTA03 speculation [UNOFFICIAL]

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Ken Young: > Ron K. Jeffries wrote: > > > GTA03 is a fairly small re-spin of GTA02. > > They are not doing anything very risky. > > > > The biggest change is a new GSM radio that > > supports EDGE, which is much faster > > than GPRS that GTA02 has. > > Do we know if t

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 13. Juni 2008 schrieb Chris Wright: > Since the alternative to using QVGA is using VGA with a faster GPU and > processor, One last time: ...OR USING VGA IN QVGA MODE WITH SAME PROCESSOR, AND SWITCH TO VGA WHENEVER YOU NEED THIS RESOLUTION. It's all about nothing else than just saving some

Re: Why not use foru

2008-06-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 13. Juni 2008 schrieb arne anka: > >> Plus, forums usually have provisions for storage and selective > >> notifications. > > > > you mail client doesn't store your email? wow! :) > > > > do you store everry mail? No, kmail does (since I managed to do pop3-alike msg-retrieving over imap. I

Re: Why not use forum?

2008-06-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 13. Juni 2008 schrieb AVee: > On Thursday 12 June 2008 17:30, Leonti Bielski wrote: > > Hi! > > I was wondering - why are we not using forum for community? > > It's much better to view, you can subscribe and unsubscribe to the > > topics you want and etc. > > The main > > Personally I don't

Re: moko running everything as root

2008-06-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 14. Juni 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: > On 6/13/08, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Peter Nijs wrote: > > >> no problems. what i don't want is people to get their hopes up. this was in > > >> the context of people asking if they can play vga video and me going "goo

Re: Why not use newsgroup?

2008-06-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 13. Juni 2008 schrieb Martin Bernreuther: > Am Freitag, 13. Juni 2008 schrieb Alexey Feldgendler: > > > By default you just download the headers without having to get the text > > > of every message, > > > > You can do that with IMAP, which is the modern protocol for accessing your > > ma

Re: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

2008-06-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
I thought about similar things some time ago. This device makes for a nice embedded controller for industries etc. For sure it will be no big problem to sell without housing, and save a few bucks per device. cheers jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. __

Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?

2008-06-14 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 14. Juni 2008 schrieb Rok Jaklič: > Hi. > > I am sorry to be just one of the other 2 billion people who want to buy > this phone, but since I "have to" buy new phone, time is a pretty hard > limit for me. > > Since phone is already being produced in factory does anyone has some > estima

Re: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

2008-06-14 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 14. Juni 2008 schrieb steve: > A big percentage of requests I get are for this, however, they always want > some hardware twist. They don't exactly know our hw, I guess (e.g it's not commonly known we have a low-voltage-RS232, I2C, and separate power feed on internal debug-con / testpoin

Re: Invisible Shield

2008-06-14 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 15. Juni 2008 schrieb Ajit Natarajan: > Hi Steve, > > I recall a message posted a few days ago that Invisible Shield is > willing to make a custom full body protector for FR if they can get a > unit in house. Any update on whether a unit can be sent to them or if a > unit has already be

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 15. Juni 2008 schrieb Nigel Cunningham: > GSM goes the same way). Or maybe I am just ignorant. Can you do sending > and receiving email and so on with GSM, or is that 3G only? Maybe the most simple answer: iPhone(1) has NO 3G. (though I usually hate to compare to this product). /j signat

Re: Anyone working on a cron port?

2008-06-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 15. Juni 2008 schrieb Peter J. Holzer: > On 2008-06-15 02:29:48 -0700, ian douglas wrote: > > Suppose I could check the project page, but it's 2:30am and I'm tired > > and lazy. I was updating and installing some software on my Freerunner > > tonight to test mp3 playback and noticed again

Re: moko running everything as root

2008-06-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 15. Juni 2008 schrieb Mikael Lammentausta: > > User "John" running sudo rm -rf /* is better than root running "rm -rf > > /*" because...? > > Because sudo can be configured to accept users in certain groups to > run certain commands with or without a password. "rm" can be > restricted, wher

Re: Anyone working on a cron port?

2008-06-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 15. Juni 2008 schrieb arne anka: > anacron see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacron #Drawbacks Also anacron doesn't address the rtcwake topic. We should plan for something more versatile that's merging cron(/anacron), at/batch, rtcwake, and the other powermanagement and wake-from-suspend

Re: moko running everything as root

2008-06-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
If you have root AND user, root can make a backup copy of user's valuable data every once in a while, and user or the virus she imported while browsing the web can NOT destroy this backup. I can't follow your arguments. It's NOT an evil person we need to fence in, it's bad behaviour of applicati

Re: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

2008-06-17 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 16. Juni 2008 schrieb Al Johnson: > On Sunday 15 June 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > > Am Sa 14. Juni 2008 schrieb steve: > > > A big percentage of requests I get are for this, however, they always > > > want some hardware twist. > > > > They don&#

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-06-18 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
The vote is closed. We decided to use 3.5mm. Please see original thread! /jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/list

Re: Possible Camera

2008-06-18 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 18. Juni 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > i don't think it would be a problem. Simple avr processor can handle > this camera. Yep, handle via I2C, no problem. But what are you going to do with the RGB-data-stream??? > And here we have 400Mhz processor with i2c support. The > question is

Re: GPS

2008-06-23 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Francesco Cat: > the FreeRunner will have a true GPS integrated, not only an AGPS > system, wouldn't it? > > Because I was given the address of this flyer: > http://www.pulster.de/info/pdas/openmoko/freerunner-flyer.pdf > and I hope it is just out-dated > > __

Re: GPS

2008-06-23 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 23. Juni 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > As I get it the AGPS is a 'true' GPS. The only differense is that agps > is faster - it additionally uses signals from gsm stations for faster > positioning. That's why it's called 'assisted gps'. Nope, it uses info from a AGPS-server somewhere in

Battery life [was: Re: Can the Freerunner now be charged with 1 or with 2 Amp ?]

2008-06-24 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 24. Juni 2008 schrieb Yorick Moko: > It is known that the way you charge a battery influences the lifetime. > Have there been any tests as to which is the "best" way to charge the > freerunner? Nope, didn't find the time to do the expected >500 charge/discharge cycles ;-) Honestly, this is

Re: GPS

2008-06-24 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 24. Juni 2008 schrieb Jisakiel: > As a matter of fact that database would not even be needed, as we *do* have a GPS to get positions. So, for instance: > > - A location is defined somehow, and *beforehand*. Say manually while being there, perhaps with some precission range attached (high

Re: GSM Tower Location and GPS

2008-06-24 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 25. Juni 2008 schrieb Joseph Reeves: > > Here's another idea: Record signal strength and position information for > > generating a coverage map. We can record tower code, signal strength, and > > phone location. This information could be used with the Open Street Map data > > to generate a

Re: Slashdot post but no web store?

2008-06-26 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 26. Juni 2008 schrieb Kevin Dean: > *** > audio quailty on the headphone is lousy due to a hardware bug - as mp3 > player useless > *** Quality rating is prone to individual bias. Well, for nerds there will be projects similar to this one http://www.redwineaudio.com/iMod.html or this one htt

Re: bands

2008-06-26 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 27. Juni 2008 schrieb W.Kenworthy: > How is the freerunner switched between the two frequency band triplets? > > Software, new image, link, factory only, ... > > Asking because what happens if you move carriers and they support "the > other" combination? different build, factory only. No

Re: bands

2008-06-26 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 27. Juni 2008 schrieb W.Kenworthy: > :( Well, there's probably no single provider using more than 1 (maybe 2) band. The allowed bands depend on national regulations, usually 900/1800 or 850/1900. So switching provider is what 3-band is made for. If you try to find a reality example for y

Re: More HW from OpenMoko

2008-06-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 28. Juni 2008 schrieb steve: > RPN please. > > Actually it would be cool to do retro versions of the old HP prgrammable > calcs ( 12 etc etc) > Hehe, like donkey kong on the PC. > ACK. Though it's hard to emulate the really lovely keys those calculators (25, 41) had, tactile feedback an

Re: Ordering Free-for-all?

2008-06-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 29. Juni 2008 schrieb Dylan Semler: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:45 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The units are already shippin to EU. So see your disty there. > > > > The units for the US are on the docks, The USA office is closed 2,3,4 july > > > > Who gets three days off f

Re: To clone a SIM via Freerunner ?

2008-06-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 29. Juni 2008 schrieb Steven Le Roux: > Hi all, > > I plan to clone a future SIM to have a "sports phone" to preserve my > freerunner... But changing all the time from a unit to another will quickly > get me bored... > > Is there a way to clone the SIM with the phone ? No way, neither wi

Re: Battery life & case design

2008-07-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 1. Juli 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I wonder, is it just me or are there enough people out there who are > interested in having more power? Enough people to make it worth while some > company (maybe openmoko) to tool up to produce a new back cover for the > gta02 > thats a few mm th

Re: Battery life & case design

2008-07-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Francesco Cat: > FR only accepts 100 or 500 mA current I think. Nope, FR sets MAXIMUM USB current to either 0.1, 0.5, or 1A depending on what's detected to be connected. This doesn't mean it won't work with 600mA. Either you set FR to 500mA and lose ~100mA of power so

Re: not being able to use Skype is a big problem

2008-07-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Greg Bonett: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > ...there are plenty of open alternatives. :) > > On that note, has anyone been able to run any open voip software running > on the FR? You might try to crosscompile twinklephone.com. When stripping out (by mak

Re: not being able to use Skype is a big problem

2008-07-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: > On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:56:43 -0500 "Forrest Sheng Bao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > they both use ARM. freerunner is armv4, n8xx is armv5. (think of it like a > pentium vs pentium-mmx - it has extra instructions in v5 compared to v4, but > the

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): > btw has ever written the > howto (we was talking about some months ago) for adding an ID resistor > to a standard USB charger? Too many different usb-connectors out there, most of them molded and break when you open. So any howto very unli

Re: Dallas/Austin Group Purchase

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Josh Valdez: > Just wondering if there is any more interest in the Dallas area for a group purchase. So far there are only three people. Also, we might be able to work something out with the Austin purchase as they almost have 20. To anyone in Austin, have you ordered

Re: applying screen protector

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb arne anka: > hi, > after a sight seeing tour cross town ups gave my om on thursday, yesterday > they dropped off the parcel! > now, i'd like to apply a screen protector -- how do i disassemble the > freerunner so the protector fits the whole screen? > i found > > htt

Re: applying screen protector

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 6. Juli 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: > > hole? one has a sticker on top -- what does that mean? > nothing, I guess. just force screwdriver thru it btw: these are torx! Don't spoil with a phillips driver!!! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signe

Re: Dual Band GSM

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 5. Juli 2008 schrieb Mikko Rauhala: > la, 2008-07-05 kello 14:01 +0200, Sean Lynch kirjoitti: > > Does anyone know if there are any plans for a Dual Band GSM openmoko > > phone? It'd be nice to have an 850/900 phone for use in the States or > > in Europe. > > You're confused. The phones are

Re: discount on invisibleshield protectors

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 7. Juli 2008 schrieb Steven **: > I don't have my Neo yet, but the case doesn't look like a material > that would easily scratch. Am I mistaken? I posted my findings some weeks ago. No, I don't consider to protect Neo's housing (if it's only for I get a new one easily [sorry]. Or maybe I'

Re: Assassin visiting the morgue...

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
+1 need a dictionary to figure out what a particular app (diversity, assassin...) is meant for :-( Just ridiculous, no? Please!!! Can we have decent names?! Even amaroK managed somehow. ;-) /j Am Mo 7. Juli 2008 schrieb Kevin Dean: > How about "Morbid" and "Macabre"? > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 a

Re: GPS

2008-07-07 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 7. Juli 2008 schrieb thomasg: > Btw. - I took a picture of my GPS_antenna, and I just can't imagine, that > this will be able to get a GPS signal without siginficant loss to the > reciever (that has only a sensitivity of -155 dBm in the best case). > http://c.imagehost.org/0230/gps_antenna.j

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
The GSM-antenna connector is near "hole" and near one of the two screws, inside of Neo. You see when opening back-lid. HTH jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.op

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

2008-07-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 8. Juli 2008 schrieb Jeffrey Ratcliffe: > Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: > > D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) > Vodafone > O2 > T-D1 (T-Mobile) > > I don't see any pattern. > > Who has a German SIM working in their FR? I tried o2 (9Y old): ok Vodaphone (unknown but probab

Re: questions about our mailinglists

2008-07-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
here we go again XD let's stop it NOW! /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPS

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Antenna is pointing front longaxis. You have to hold device upright (lanyard hole to ground, AUX-key to sky)! /jOERG Am Sa 12. Juli 2008 schrieb Jonathan Spooner: > I've been playing with my GPS and finally got a fix using agps diag > tool. I stood the gta02 up on my garden table using a pop bot

Re: GPS

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Antenna is pointing front longaxis. You have to hold device upright (lanyard hole to ground, AUX-key to sky)! /jOERG Am Di 8. Juli 2008 schrieb atweb: > Hello, > > On Monday, I had a fix after an hour (eating by mom and laying FR in my > card at the north side of the house). > Today, the GPS fo

Re: GPS issue related to GPS antenna selector ?

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 13. Juli 2008 schrieb Philippe Guillebert: > Hello, > > Thanks to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Hardware_Issues , I > ran into the following (and quite scary) thread : > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2008-April/55.html > > So I was wondering, maybe the poor

Re: which list to write to (was Re: x offset in landscape mode)

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 10. Juli 2008 schrieb Stroller: > > On 10 Jul 2008, at 07:17, Michael Kluge wrote: > > It is probably the best idea to write to both lists (I was not > > aware of the other list up to now). > > Urg, if you must, for the present. > > IMO it's better if the "correct" list was simply addre

Re: SanDisk micro SDHC 8GB card under testing

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 10. Juli 2008 schrieb ian douglas: > Shawn Rutledge wrote: > > What about on the GTA01? The biggest I have tried so far is 2 gig > > because I wasn't sure if SDHC was working. > > I sold my GTA01 months ago earlier this year, so I can only test on my > GTA02v5. I imagine someone with a v6

Re: AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
No use in connecting a FR to any source to charge bat, as long as it doesn't boot up. Actually it drains battery even further, instead of charging. Battery is only charged when booting succeeds. Jumpstart the battery is very unlikely to help you out. Get FR booted by any means 1.:Remove sim-card

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 14. Juli 2008 schrieb Scott Derrick: > I don't get "some people" have experienced audio issues? > > Is this an indication of the level of quality control in manufacture ring? > > Scott This is a short form of description of the *very* random and statistic nature of this issue. We got so

Re: wiki:gps: rephrasing?

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Antenna is pointing front longaxis. You have to hold device upright (lanyard hole to ground, AUX-key to sky)! /jOERG Am So 13. Juli 2008 schrieb arne anka: > hi, > i found > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems#Basic_GPS_debugging > > which starts as follows: > > > ... (the screen the r

Re: Qtopia Speakerphone

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 13. Juli 2008 schrieb Yochai Gal: > Hi all, the qtopia image makes the FreeRunner almost a usable phone, but I > have a problem. I was able to get the audio to work by creating the symlink > below, but the speakerphone still doesn't work --- it emits a loud beep > sound instead. Any ideas?

Re: AW: Re: AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 13. Juli 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > It mean the same as one know this from a car with a very low battery... (bridged ) > just put another battery (I think it`s important, that the second battery have the same Volt) parallel to the > original battery. > If so, the FR can take the p

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 14. Juli 2008 schrieb Tim Schmidt: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Meanwhile we are about to improve the hw to cope with this (a little difficult > > without exact idea of the way this happens). > > Meaning, t

Re: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 14. Juli 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): > Michael Shiloh wrote: > > The final method involves charging the battery manually, enough to allow > > Freerunner to boot. This requires an external power supply of about 4.5 > > Volts and should be done only if you feel comfortable with el

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 14. Juli 2008 schrieb Yaroslav Halchenko: > then why not to ask Randy S (who already steadily experiencing > such an issue without much of fiddling with weather/location/manner of > holding) to do additional troubleshooting and if it is unit specific, > just to send the unit back for the rep

Re: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 14. Juli 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): > Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > > Am Mo 14. Juli 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): > >> Michael Shiloh wrote: > >>> The final method involves charging the battery manually, enough to allow > >>

Re: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 14. Juli 2008 schrieb Ben Wilson: > So the freerunner doesn't suffer from the problem in gta01 of squealing > (and potential damage) if you remove the battery while it's charging? No reports so far. Seems we fixed that ;-) /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: Can't boot Freerunner without battery - Was: Re: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

2008-07-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 14. Juli 2008 schrieb Steven **: > Perhaps it's been said before and I missed it... But why can't the > Neo boot off USB power alone? Boils down to sth like powering up a whole town after blackout. All components drawing a spike of energy same moment, which USB can't deliver. ->next black

Re: Volume?

2008-07-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 15. Juli 2008 schrieb Emilis Dambauskas: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Andy Selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>SSH into the device and type > > #alsamixer > > then adjust the sound using the sliders > > > > There are so many of them and they are poorly named.

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
wrong! won't help, don't try! /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 15. Juli 2008 schrieb Mikko Rauhala: > not-very-cumbersome fix will be found. (Let's wrap the µSD in tinfoil!) probably won't help. Be careful not to short anything /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmo

Re: Volume?

2008-07-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 15. Juli 2008 schrieb Al Johnson: > On Tuesday 15 July 2008, Emilis Dambauskas wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Edward A. Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For now, the only ones you care about are the "Headphone" and "PCM" > > > volumes. Respectively, these are the master vo

Re: Volume?

2008-07-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 15. Juli 2008 schrieb Andy Selby: > >> SSH into the device and type > >> #alsamixer > >> then adjust the sound using the sliders > > > > That did the trick. Headphone and PCM were both at 95%. Setting them > > to 90% and 80% respectively was a reasonable level. Any lower than

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! Does it impact sound?

2008-07-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 15. Juli 2008 schrieb Yaroslav Halchenko: > and the same issue might be related to GSM sound distortions I guess -- > may be someone who has it could verify if that is (un)related Nope GSM noise is quite a different issue. completely unrelated /j signature.asc Description: This is a digit

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 15. Juli 2008 schrieb ian douglas: > For those that follow the devel and commitlog lists, there was a patch > submitted by Andy Green @ Openmoko on the 13th suggesting that an > increase in voltage to the GPS workings might help. I haven't tried this > myself. > > The note attached said:

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
exactly! Am Di 15. Juli 2008 schrieb Yaroslav Halchenko: > > The note attached said: > > "GPS internal antenna issue appears to respond positively to cranking > > RF_3V to 3.6V from 3.0V." > > > Perhaps Torfinn's last Email was right: it may not be an EMC problem but > > a lack of voltage? > w

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
It's the *internal* antenna connector, which you actually should know if you really fixed it the way you told ;-) Stay tuned for a fix. stay tuned for further notice. for sure we won't ignore the issue and will come up with a solution /j Am Di 15. Juli 2008 schrieb Gary Oliver: > Tried the GPS l

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-15 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 15. Juli 2008 schrieb Ken Young: > > Joerg Reisenweber (joerg at openmoko.org) wrote: > > > wrong! > > won't help, don't try! > > /j > > That's a bit cryptic - what are you saying is wrong? It it the > idea of removing the shieldin

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