Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

I thought I should elaborate: 2007/11/29, Humberto Massa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > If I don't want to be located, I don't want to be called, either -- > think "plane mode", no radios on but MP3/AVI player on, agenda on, > text editor on, etc. That is what people meant when they say "turn off > any of

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

This strikes me as a uninteligible answer: 2007/11/29, t3st3r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > i wholeheartedly support this open platform that gives its users the control > > to turn -any- of its radios on or off at will (of the operator...). > This will not help too much.Either you're not in the network

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

> i wholeheartedly support this open platform that gives its users the control > to turn -any- of its radios on or off at will (of the operator...). This will not help too much.Either you're not in the network or network should be aware about your location.When someone calls you, network have to s

Germany - Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

Here 2 links, that might be interesting - This is at least my german research I made some time back... http://chaosradio.ccc.de/ds2005-337.html http://www.datenspuren.de/2005/vortraege/GSM%20Abhoeren%20Datenspuren.pdf http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSI-Catcher The First 2 links belong together

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

On 11/26/07, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder how well this works on average. If this would work well > enough I don't believe we'd be seeing all the integrated GPS units for > the claimed purpose of servicing E911. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E911#Wireless_Enhanced_

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

I remember discussions of this on usenet many years ago. (in the AMPS days) I seem to remember a company selling software that cellular companies could run on their switches to triangulate phones. It was used to catch cloners and supposedly worked quite well, at least in well covered areas like

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

"Jeff Andros" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OK, legal matters aside, your network operators ALWAYS know where your > phone is: cell towers can triangulate the position of your phone(it's like > reverse GPS... multiple receivers on a single source). I wonder how well this works on average. If

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

Everyone would take out the battery just because they have a feeling that the might be bugged? You'd have to set the time/date anew everytime etc.. It would be much more convenient if somehow you could be sure that when its off it really is, and I think with OM you can be quite sure :)

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

On Monday 26 November 2007 12:51, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > flexd wrote: > > Wow that's alot of replies for something i wrote so quickly. > > I didn't really mean it all seriously, and im all for being > > untrackable and all, like you guys say. > > > > But if they wanna track me, then fine, they ca

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

On Monday 26 November 2007 03:36, Piotr Duda wrote: > Ian Darwin pisze: > [...] > > > And you can power off any cell phone, [...] > > This could not be enough. At the beginning of this list there was some > discussion about a case where feds recorded chats of some mafia guy with > his own car's mob

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

flexd wrote: > Wow that's alot of replies for something i wrote so quickly. > I didn't really mean it all seriously, and im all for being > untrackable and all, like you guys say. > > But if they wanna track me, then fine, they can if they want. > > I just pity the fool that's gonna sit and monitor

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007/11/26, Jeff Andros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On 11/25/07, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Can people ever be compelled to supply > > truthful GPS information to LEO as long as open source cellphones are > > legal? > > > > OK, legal matters aside, your network

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

Wow that's alot of replies for something i wrote so quickly. I didn't really mean it all seriously, and im all for being untrackable and all, like you guys say. But if they wanna track me, then fine, they can if they want. I just pity the fool that's gonna sit and monitor my boring life. Jay

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

On Nov 26, 2007, at 1:19 AM, flexd wrote: If you just obey the law, when will they ever need to track you? When you're a political dissident who is investigating the crimes of officials and politicians. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ OpenMoko commu

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

On 11/25/07, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Can people ever be compelled to supply > truthful GPS information to LEO as long as open source cellphones are > legal? > OK, legal matters aside, your network operators ALWAYS know where your phone is: cell towers can triangulat

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

Joe Pfeiffer > With an extreme effort of will, I'm not responding with a libertarian > post. Please, let's not go off into politics here Ok. For a technical slant. Can people ever be compelled to supply truthful GPS information to LEO as long as open source cellphones are legal? We can al

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

flexd writes: >If you just obey the law, when will they ever need to track you? With an extreme effort of will, I'm not responding with a libertarian post. Please, let's not go off into politics here ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@li

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

Ian Darwin pisze: [...] > And you can power off any cell phone, [...] This could not be enough. At the beginning of this list there was some discussion about a case where feds recorded chats of some mafia guy with his own car's mobile, which was turned off. IIRC that was possible because the

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 01:19 +0100, flexd wrote: > If you just obey the law, when will they ever need to track you? Ah. The old "if you don't have anything to be afraid of" argument. It's pretty tired, but if you insist ... 1) The law is an ass. There's a big difference between breaking the law a

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

flexd wrote: If you just obey the law, when will they ever need to track you? Are you serious? Or was that tongue-in-cheek? That's entirely the wrong kind of question to ask. The question is: if you just obey the law, why would they need to track you? And so, why do they need these powers ov

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

If they suspect you anyway. Quote: *In some cases, judges have granted the requests without even requiring the government to demonstrate probable cause that a crime is taking place or that the inquiry will yield evidence of a crime * I wonder how difficult it would be for criminals or the music in

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

Didn't you see "Brazil"? flexd wrote: If you just obey the law, when will they ever need to track you? justin daly skrev: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/23/196229&from=rss please don't let the rest of the world

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

I agree with you, obey the law. But many people want privacy at all costs, even if they are obeying the law. I know its a distorted idea and thought, but people want the ability to not be limited, and the ability to do something illegal :P -bk On Nov 25, 2007, at 6:19 PM, flexd <[EMAIL P

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

If you just obey the law, when will they ever need to track you? justin daly skrev: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/23/196229&from=rss please don't let the rest of the world fall under the same privacy stranglehol

/. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/23/196229&from=rss please don't let the rest of the world fall under the same privacy stranglehold. i wholeheartedly support this open platform that gives its users the control to turn -any- of its radios on or off at will (of the operator...). thank