Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

2008-04-17 Thread Fred Janon
CDMA is being phased out: end of April in Australia, began a few years ago in the US. Carriers are switching to GSM. Pack more subscribers on a cell, even if they need more cells. GSM allowed Europe to unify their mobile network before the US even realized that they had to do it for

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

2008-04-17 Thread Lowell Higley
I believe CDMA is a proprietary technology owned/licensed/patented by Qualcom. If that is correct, you'd have to license to use the patent. Kind of conflicts with the idea of an open phone. I guess no more so than some of the GSM stuff... but hey.. who knows. On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:02 AM,

3G? What about CDMA?

2008-04-16 Thread Steven **
I talk with friends and co-workers about OpenMoko and the Neo Freerunner all the time. Inevitably, they say something like That's cool. Will it work with Verizon? or That's cool. Will it work with Sprint?. And of course, the answer is no... I don't think any of my friends are with att (even

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

2008-04-16 Thread Kevin Dean
GSM is essentially an international standard. With some exceptions, CDMA isn't used much. Furthermore, even in the USA, Verizon will be deploying a GSM network soon (next few years). So a Freerunner WILL work on Verizon in the near future. Don't count on a CDMA device, using a relatively closed

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

2008-04-16 Thread Steven **
I don't see how GSM is much less closed of a network protocol than CDMA (the interchangeable SIM cards being the big difference). The GSM chip is the most locked down hardware on the Neo. A CDMA chip would be no different. As far as the aims of the Openmoko project, I don't see how CDMA

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

2008-04-16 Thread Kevin Dean
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see how GSM is much less closed of a network protocol than CDMA (the interchangeable SIM cards being the big difference). Stop thinking in terms of the technology itself and think in terms of a userbase. In the

Re: 3G? What about CDMA?

2008-04-16 Thread Ben Burdette
Steven ** wrote: I don't see how GSM is much less closed of a network protocol than CDMA (the interchangeable SIM cards being the big difference). The GSM chip is the most locked down hardware on the Neo. A CDMA chip would be no different. Actually the situation here IS very different,