Re: Several questions about ASU

2008-08-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 07:18:24PM +0200, julien cubizolles wrote: Le vendredi 22 août 2008 à 17:14 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra a écrit : On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 04:34:19PM +0200, julien cubizolles wrote: ASU is finally usable as a phone for me, and I'm ready to use it as my default

Re: Several questions about ASU

2008-08-22 Thread Warren Baird
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:18 PM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 1. Flash raster's image (found at [...] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/ Your process worked great for me... I followed your instructions, including doing the opkg upgrade and I then installed a few new

Re: Several questions about ASU

2008-08-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 06:05:54PM -0400, Warren Baird wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:18 PM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 1. Flash raster's image (found at [...] http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/ Your process worked great for me... I followed your instructions,

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
cooperative. But when oom-kill comes, every thing is too late in my eyes. Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: I am running ASU on my FreeRunner. After it being up for a day or two, things (like the touch screen) stops working. ight now it has been up for: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uptime 22:53:34 up 3 days

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
cooperative. But when oom-kill comes, every thing is too late in my eyes. Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: I am running ASU on my FreeRunner. After it being up for a day or two, things (like the touch screen) stops working. ight now it has been up for: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uptime 22:53:34 up 3 days, 5

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:42:52 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: no.. you need to find who is leaking memory and beat them up! :) seriously. 128m is more than enough. it's almost overkill. needing swap (on a device like the freerunner) is a

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:58:44PM +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:42:52 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: no.. you need to find who is leaking memory and beat them up! :) seriously. 128m is more than enough.

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:58:44PM +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:42:52 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: no.. you need to find who is leaking memory and beat them up! :) seriously.

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:58:44 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:42:52 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: no.. you need to find who is leaking memory and beat them up! :) seriously. 128m is more

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Esben Stien
Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of helplessley crashing) Yes, or killing the application. Not having swap is nonsense;). If you are using swap

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tilman Baumann wrote: i'd think it would make little sense so make the system that fragile. fix the memory usage issue - don't just get more slow slow slow ram. :) As i said, i had made the experience that it improved the system greatly. Shouldn't we just test it? Perhaps, that is what

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Esben Stien wrote: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of helplessley crashing) Yes, or killing the application. That would be great. But was always

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:50:26 +0200 Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of helplessley crashing) Yes, or

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:09:58 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Esben Stien wrote: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of helplessley

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:50:26 +0200 Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: I remember there was a proposal for a more intelligent oom killer system on lkml some time ago. No idea if this is still around. (Was afaik some preemtive notification to userspace) Intuitively the answer is clear. Kill the culprit and not just

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tilman Baumann wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: I remember there was a proposal for a more intelligent oom killer system on lkml some time ago. No idea if this is still around. (Was afaik some preemtive notification to userspace) Intuitively the answer is clear. Kill the

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:44:36 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:50:26 +0200 Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Sander van Grieken
Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of helplessley crashing) Yes, or killing the application. Not having swap is nonsense;). If you are using swap

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:44:36 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:50:26 +0200 Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Sander van Grieken wrote: Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the linux memory overcommit behaviour more or less depends on the fact that it can allways save it's ass by using swap. (Instead of helplessley crashing) Yes, or killing the application. Not having swap is nonsense;). If

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Steven Kurylo
And come on. Software is not perfect. Sometimes we have to live with a dreamteam like (old) firefox and x11. I had times when they had both hundreds of megs virtual mem. But everything was fine because it all was just harmlessly been swaped away. I restarted them every weekend to not let it

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Sander van Grieken
On Thursday 21 August 2008 19:33:24 Steven Kurylo wrote: And come on. Software is not perfect. Sometimes we have to live with a dreamteam like (old) firefox and x11. I had times when they had both hundreds of megs virtual mem. But everything was fine because it all was just harmlessly been

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Clinton Ebadi
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: really - we need a userspace oom that is Smarter (it knows what a system daemon is and what a user application is and what is a necessary user desktop process), so it will always kill apps not the phone daemon or the window manager or

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Esben Stien
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and luckily those smart fellas in kernel developer land.. made kernel overcommit.. a tunable parameter! and... cunningly.. on the FR (and as wel on my desktop) it's turned off! :) so... a moot point really. :) I was more thinking of

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Tilman Baumann
Am 21.08.2008 um 19:33 schrieb Steven Kurylo: And come on. Software is not perfect. Sometimes we have to live with a dreamteam like (old) firefox and x11. I had times when they had both hundreds of megs virtual mem. But everything was fine because it all was just harmlessly been swaped

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread Steven Kurylo
I'm not sure this is true on Freerunner. None of the embedded systems I've used have had swap. Because they where really embedded. Openmoko is more or less a mobile desktop. Its embedded because of the limited resources available to it. Slowing down is clearly better than instant crashing.

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:29:45 -0400 Clinton Ebadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: You've just rediscovered one of the few good design decisions of the l4hurd project. See the bits on memory allocation in [0]. 'Tis a shame that Hurd has pretty much failed (l4hurd and ngHurd got closer and closer to

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:07:12 +0200 Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and luckily those smart fellas in kernel developer land.. made kernel overcommit.. a tunable parameter! and... cunningly.. on the FR (and as wel on my

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:40:52 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:44:36 +0200 Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:50:26 +0200 Esben Stien

Re: ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:54:26 +0200 Sander van Grieken [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Thursday 21 August 2008 19:33:24 Steven Kurylo wrote: And come on. Software is not perfect. Sometimes we have to live with a dreamteam like (old) firefox and x11. I had times when they had both hundreds

ASU - out of memory?

2008-08-20 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
I am running ASU on my FreeRunner. After it being up for a day or two, things (like the touch screen) stops working. ight now it has been up for: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uptime 22:53:34 up 3 days, 5:10, 2 users, load average: 1.01, 1.15, 1.28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# From logread: Aug 20 22:11:47

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-18 Thread julien cubizolles
Le dimanche 17 août 2008 à 18:02 +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : A little update On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, possible rason for filure - the neo1973 kernel is back: I now have the correct kernel installed, but still - no sound - AUC

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-17 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
OK, ASU testing running now. What I have found out so far: - there is no audio - the phone doesn't register to the GSM network (after I have entered the PIN) - the AUX button doesn't lock the screen any more - a short press on the Power button doesn't kill the active program Seems like my FR

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-17 Thread Lucas Bonnet
Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Added to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories#OM_2008.8_.2F_ASU_by_zecke Thanks to all who answered :) Regards, -- Lucas pgp2b23I3M8Do.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-17 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
A little update On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, possible rason for filure - the neo1973 kernel is back: I now have the correct kernel installed, but still - no sound - AUC button doesn't lock screen - phone is not registered on the network - From

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-16 Thread Olivier Berger
Holger Freyther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey, as we need some more time to make the build result of org.openmoko.asu.dev and org.openmoko.asu.stable available I have an ad-hoc and temporary solution by providing my build result. So this is from the official branch but my no means an

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-16 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Kevin Zuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To update to testing simple create a new file /etc/opkg/updates.conf and put into it http://pastebin.com/f1cffba0b . OK, I just added updates.conf to /etc/opkg. I did not remove any other files in there. Is this the

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-16 Thread Kevin Zuber
Am Samstag, den 16.08.2008, 14:14 +0200 schrieb Torfinn Ingolfsen: Hello, On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Kevin Zuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To update to testing simple create a new file /etc/opkg/updates.conf and put into it http://pastebin.com/f1cffba0b . OK, I just added

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-15 Thread Lucas Bonnet
Holger Freyther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey, as we need some more time to make the build result of org.openmoko.asu.dev and org.openmoko.asu.stable available I have an ad-hoc and temporary solution by providing my build result. So this is from the official branch but my no means an

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-15 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Lucas Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I translate this into opkg config files? I tried to change the *.conf files in /etc/opkg but I can't seem to find a syntax that pleases opkg. Since I'm the only one asking this, it must be obvious :) Well, it isn't

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-15 Thread Håvard Moen
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:27:53 +0200, Lucas Bonnet wrote: How can I translate this into opkg config files? I tried to change the *.conf files in /etc/opkg but I can't seem to find a syntax that pleases opkg. Since I'm the only one asking this, it must be obvious :) Would anyone be kind

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-14 Thread Holger Freyther
On Thursday 14 August 2008 05:25:54 Robert William Hutton wrote: Holger Freyther wrote: testing feeds: http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/all http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/armv4t http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/i686

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-14 Thread Norbert Hartl
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 14:26 +0200, Holger Freyther wrote: On Thursday 14 August 2008 05:25:54 Robert William Hutton wrote: Holger Freyther wrote: testing feeds: http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/all http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/armv4t

Re: ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?

2008-08-14 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Benedikt Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you update your ASU with the buildhost ? that will destroy the Yes, I did. AFAIK, this is the only way to update ASU with daily updates, unless one wants to reinstall everything every day (ie. flash a new

Re: ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?

2008-08-14 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Update: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll do another 'opkg update opkg upgrade' this evening and see if things have improved. Well, still no sound. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko

Re: ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?

2008-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Benedikt Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you update your ASU with the buildhost ? that will destroy the Yes, I did. AFAIK, this is the only way to update ASU with daily updates, unless one wants to reinstall everything every

Re: spanner/wrench in daily builds (ASU) from buildhost.openmoko.org

2008-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Yorick Moko wrote: Is there a way to get the spanner/wrench back on openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk--20080813-om-gta02.rootfs ? You'd be better off actually using the asu image, and then updating it using zecke's correct feeds instead of using that image you've listed above which

Re: ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?

2008-08-14 Thread Mike Doody
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Benedikt Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you update your ASU with the buildhost ? that will destroy the Yes, I did. AFAIK, this is the only way to update ASU

ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?

2008-08-13 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, I am running ASU (daily builds) on my FR. Sound has been broken for a while now. When I do 'demg | grep snd' I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dmesg | grep snd [ 35.92] snd: Unknown symbol mutex_lock [ 35.945000] snd_page_alloc: Unknown symbol mutex_lock [ 35.97] snd_timer

Re: ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?

2008-08-13 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Torfinn Ingolfsen schrieb: Hello, I am running ASU (daily builds) on my FR. Sound has been broken for a while now. When I do 'demg | grep snd' I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dmesg | grep snd [ 35.92] snd: Unknown symbol mutex_lock [ 35.945000] snd_page_alloc: Unknown symbol

Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-13 Thread Holger Freyther
Hey, as we need some more time to make the build result of org.openmoko.asu.dev and org.openmoko.asu.stable available I have an ad-hoc and temporary solution by providing my build result. So this is from the official branch but my no means an official feed and will go away once the right thing

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-13 Thread Jay Vaughan
development/unstable trees: http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/all http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/armv4t http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/i686 http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/neo1973

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-13 Thread Feydreva
Awesome :) On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: development/unstable trees: http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-dev/allhttp://people.openmoko.org/%7Ezecke/om2008.8-dev/all

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-13 Thread Robert William Hutton
Holger Freyther wrote: testing feeds: http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/all http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/armv4t http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/i686 http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/neo1973

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-08 Thread Olivier Berger
Benedikt Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rod Whitby schrieb: So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the correct branch. -- Rod

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-08 Thread Benedikt Schindler
-image : This is the offical Om2007.2 release. install the rootfs. Do a opkg update opkg upgrade. And you are just where everyone in the list is when he saied he is running a OM2007.2 openmoko-qtopia-x11-image : This is not the ASU or the Om2008.8 ! this is a mixture from Om2007.2 and some ASU

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-08 Thread Jay Vaughan
To be fair the wiki points to an equally misleading folder : http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/ I guess it was all prep work for the release. Is this the official release location now or what? ; -- Jay Vaughan ___

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-08 Thread Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu)
Hi Jay: To be fair the wiki points to an equally misleading folder : http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/ I guess it was all prep work for the release. Is this the official release location now or what? No, it's not official, I think will be another announcement.

can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade

2008-08-08 Thread Dimitri
I installed official ASU, but it can't connect to the internet (it connected fine, prior to ASU upgrade). To establish usb networking I run this script as sudo in Ubuntu: #!/bin/bash iptables -F ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 route add 192.168.0.202

Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade

2008-08-08 Thread Rorschach
Can it be that your /etc/resolv.conf is empty? Checkout the Known Issues: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Known_Issues ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade

2008-08-08 Thread Daniel Benoy
Actually it's saying Packets: X, Errors: Y (0 errors on the output you pasted) Also, I'm not sure about what ASU does by default, but have you checked the default route? The 'gateway 192.168.0.200' line in /etc/network/interfaces should be under usb0, and you should see it when you run 'ip

Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade

2008-08-08 Thread Dimitri
, it says WiFi but doesn't say on OR off. It's just blank. And if I click it, it says WiFi unknown. Anyway... one problem at a time, right? :) Dimitri -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/can%27t-connect-to-internet-after-ASU-upgrade-tp681131p681236.html Sent from

Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade

2008-08-08 Thread Tick Chen
e.g. iwconfig eth0 essid X key [1] 987654310 That works for me. Cheers, Tick On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 10:00:27AM -0700, Dimitri wrote: I installed official ASU, but it can't connect to the internet (it connected fine, prior to ASU upgrade). To establish usb networking I run this script

Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade

2008-08-08 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I installed official ASU, but it can't connect to the internet (it connected | fine, prior to ASU upgrade). | inet6 addr: fe80::2489:d4ff:fed8:381c/64 Scope:Link ipv6 is up, does it make trouble

Re: Community contributions to core apps features. (Was: Terminal for ASU)

2008-08-08 Thread Michael Shiloh
rakshat hooja wrote: It is already linked from the front page, but clearly from not those places it should be from :) But you have good points. Openmoko is open, but its development is not exposed in the open as much as I'd like for an open source project to be.

Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade

2008-08-08 Thread Dimitri
official ASU, but it can't connect to the internet (it connected fine, prior to ASU upgrade). To establish usb networking I run this script as sudo in Ubuntu: #!/bin/bash iptables -F ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 route add 192.168.0.202 usb0

ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread simarillion
I'm a little bit confused. On the devel List I read that the real ASU image has a black Wallpaper. But where can I download it? I downloaded this one http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080807/openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk--20080807-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Rod Whitby
simarillion wrote: I'm a little bit confused. On the devel List I read that the real ASU image has a black Wallpaper. But where can I download it? I downloaded this one http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080807/openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Rod Whitby schrieb: So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the correct branch. -- Rod we should editing the wiki then. because

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Dimitri
Same here. I thought the fake ASU was the real ASU, as clearly stated by the wiki. After installing it, I had all sorts of problems: USB wasn't working right; it was very sluggish; it would crash within a few minutes... horrible. D Benedikt Schindler wrote: Rod Whitby schrieb: So whilst

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread David Samblas
If those who make ASU are telling to us fake ASU is fake ASU why do you think fake ASU is a real ASU? It seems a beta version of some kind of FSO more than a ASU. It uses the same wallpapers that I have saw in a FSO light image I have tested before on Qemu. So You want ASU? then wait until

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Dimitri
You misunderstood me. NOW we know it was fake ASU. NOW. But 2 days ago, the WIKI said it was the actual ASU. The error was in the WIKI, not with the people who followed the WIKI's (now false) directions. D David Samblas wrote: If those who make ASU are telling to us fake ASU is fake ASU

Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Matt
Got me too. To be fair the wiki points to an equally misleading folder : http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/ I guess it was all prep work for the release. Dimitri wrote: You misunderstood me. NOW we know it was fake ASU. NOW. But 2 days ago, the WIKI said

Re: nfs on ASU

2008-08-05 Thread Fredrik Wendt
Alex Kavanagh wrote: Fredrik Wendt wrote, On 05/08/08 14:43: Andy wrote: What workflow are you trying to achieve with NFS? Unless you're changing large files a lot, scp to NAND or SD Card works well. I intend to mount my music share (NFS) when I'm at work (over wlan since

Re: ASU - desktop theme instead of ASU theme in X?

2008-08-04 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Norbert Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a e desktop as well after applying the fix of Bug #1678. In my case I had to reinstall illume and do a rm -rf /home/root/.e Yes! That trick did it. I did 'opkg -force-reinstall install illume' nd then removed

Re: ASU - desktop theme instead of ASU theme in X?

2008-08-03 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
More info: todays upgrade ('opkg update', then 'opkg upgrade') didn't solve the problem with the desktop theme or screen or whatever. If anybody knows how to get back the standard ASU look and feel on the screen, I will be very happy. I hope I don't need to reflash my FR to get it fixed

Re: ASU - desktop theme instead of ASU theme in X?

2008-08-03 Thread Norbert Hartl
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 14:05 +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: More info: todays upgrade ('opkg update', then 'opkg upgrade') didn't solve the problem with the desktop theme or screen or whatever. If anybody knows how to get back the standard ASU look and feel on the screen, I will be very happy

Where is ASU?

2008-08-03 Thread Vasco Névoa
Hi folks. Sorry if I'm asking something too obvious, but I can't find the ASU images on http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/... I see that all the links to ASU images in the mailing list end up in 404s... So, 2 questions: 1 - where are ASU images; 2 - what exactly is hosted in buildhost

Re: Where is ASU?

2008-08-03 Thread nickd
I've been wondering the same thing, thought it was only me. It looks like only August builds are up at the moment. Vasco Névoa wrote: Hi folks. Sorry if I'm asking something too obvious, but I can't find the ASU images on http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/... I see that all

Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

2008-08-01 Thread arne anka
official release of ? well, since the subject reads ASU, william lai is of openmoko and openmoko does officially only asu ... it should not be too hard to guess, shouldn't it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

2008-08-01 Thread William Lai
it will get much easier, very soon. official release of ? Om 2008.8 (ASU) will be available on August 8th. - Will ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

2008-08-01 Thread Benedikt Schindler
William Lai schrieb: On Aug 1, 2008, at 3:09 AM, Benedikt Schindler wrote: snipped When i killed that problems, i will do the rootfs. But for now i will work on a ASU installing wiki-site at the weekend. I will give you the link if i managed to write the basic steps i take

Re: ASU - opkg upgrade - is it possible to exclude some packages?

2008-07-31 Thread Rod Whitby
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Charles-Henri Gros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to tell 'opkg upgrade' to upgrade everything except the kernel? If you were using ipkg, you could say: $ ipkg flag hold package-name Dunno whether opkg has that functionality yet. -- Rod

Re: ASU - startup broken by upgrade?

2008-07-31 Thread DooD
I found that installing the newest e-wm and illume packages http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.042+cvs200807270730-r11_armv4t.ipk http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr170-r7_armv4t.ipk caused this problem. when i

Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

2008-07-31 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Jacob Peterson schrieb: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Xavier Cremaschi ha scritto: I am currently using Qtopia on Freerunner as my main/daily phone, but could someone tell me if ASU would

Re: ASU - startup broken by upgrade?

2008-07-31 Thread arne anka
only problem was if i had already used opkg to upgrade i could not get it to install the older packages have a look at opkg -h there should be something like --force-downgrade or so ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

2008-07-31 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:37:46AM +0200, Benedikt Schindler wrote: I will set up/update a wiki-page for the ASU installation i have done. That would be handy! -aW IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction

Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

2008-07-31 Thread Jacob Peterson
on Freerunner as my main/daily phone, but could someone tell me if ASU would be usable too ? What will I loose (in usability/functionality) with ASU ? It's working fine. ... just takes your time to get it installed right :) the maintained rootfs wasn't working out of the box

Navit and the ASU

2008-07-31 Thread Yorick Moko
I'm trying to get Navit to work but it does not get a fix. All my other apps do get a fix (agpsui, tango gps, diversity) almost instantly. I've also tried to type /etc/init.d/gpsd start when ssh'd in to the FreeRunner but status stays: GPS 00/0 .N .E. Does anybody have a clue what

Re: Navit and the ASU

2008-07-31 Thread Tilman Baumann
. Does anybody have a clue what to do about this? I thought ASU uses gypsy? Navit has a gypsy module. (At least a more recent version of Nvit i have here on my pc) -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper

Re: ASU, exposure doesn't work

2008-07-31 Thread DooD
-ecore_0.2.1+cvs20080702-r1_armv4t.ipk This should work, goodluck Benedikt Schindler wrote: I am running ASU with a daily kernel and opkg-config from mwester. (kernel_2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r1_om-gta02.ipk) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# app-launcher.py exposure Can't connect

Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

2008-07-31 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Jacob Peterson schrieb: I just managed to install ASU so it works fine for all normal phone stuff. (Call/SMS/Conntacts/GPS/GPRS) I will set up/update a wiki-page for the ASU installation i have done. If you do find/start a wiki page let me know, I would be interested

Re: ASU

2008-07-31 Thread William Lai
release was delayed. ASU is the name we use internally. It will release as Om 2008.8 in August. Default Applications will include: Dialer Messages Contacts Sudoku - number game Settings (exposure) - settings application Installer (assassin) - frontend for installing applications over

Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

2008-07-31 Thread William Lai
On Aug 1, 2008, at 3:09 AM, Benedikt Schindler wrote: snipped When i killed that problems, i will do the rootfs. But for now i will work on a ASU installing wiki-site at the weekend. I will give you the link if i managed to write the basic steps i take. It will be a mix up of these two

Sudoku - Was: Re: ASU

2008-07-31 Thread Steven **
Is this one of the 3 sudoku games on projects.openmoko.org (one of which is mine) or a forth version? I think sudoku may be the most popular program for the Neo. ;-) -Steven On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:11 PM, William Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our release was delayed. ASU is the name we use

Re: Flash ASU

2008-07-31 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 22:49 -0700, Charles-Henri Gros wrote: Evgeny Ginzburg wrote: Scott wrote: Why do the latest ASU folders not have the kernel or root file system files? AFAIK if they are no changed, they don't appear again. Couldn't we get symlinks to the old ones or something

Re: ASU - startup broken by upgrade?

2008-07-31 Thread Yorick Moko
it does not work for me, I tried the solution from the bug-report with no luck I tried the force-downgrade suggested by DooD of http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.042+cvs20080722-r10_armv4t.ipk and

Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?

2008-07-31 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:30:48AM +0800, William Lai wrote: You might want to wait on this one. The official release is within a week. Installing will get much easier from then on. Wouldn't want you to spend time documenting this when it will get much easier, very

Re: ASU - opkg upgrade - is it possible to exclude some packages?

2008-07-30 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
Upgrading kernel on root from 2:2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0 to 2:2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/neo1973/kernel_2.6.24+git75929

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