Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-30 Thread Jae Stutzman
-- Forwarded message -- From: Jae Stutzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:12:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm To: Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED] My motorola E2 has a 3.5 mm jack. Same as the N800. On 4/29/07, Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-29 Thread Ian Stirling
Alex Schamenek wrote: Not really the point that quality 2.5mm headphones are available. They are a response to dumb phones having 2.5mm jacks when they should have had 3.5mm. There are more top quality 3.5mm headsets available. Vladimir raises a very good question: What is the jack intended

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-29 Thread Brad Midgley
Wolfgang Judging from the high-resolution picture on the wiki it looks like the phone has a very special 2.5mm connector with 4 separate electrical connections (instead of the more common 3-connection version). If I'm interpreting this correctly they are running both ground, left-earphone,

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-28 Thread Alex Schamenek
Not really the point that quality 2.5mm headphones are available. They are a response to dumb phones having 2.5mm jacks when they should have had 3.5mm. There are more top quality 3.5mm headsets available. Vladimir raises a very good question: What is the jack intended to be used for? Music or

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-25 Thread t3st3r
Vladimi'r Lapa'c(ek wrote: Interesting thing to consider is how many people would like to use the headset and how many would it use for playing music. Wired connection usually preferred by those who listens to music.Others are often using bluetooth since it is more convenient (no

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-25 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 11:21:05 t3st3r wrote: These adapters are popular up to some degree due to some portable devices using 2.5 mm jacks, but still this adds some headache with finding such adapter.That's not fair, at least for me. You mean like the trouble of going to ebay and order

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-25 Thread Don Walker
High quality headsets designed for listening to music on cell phones are already available with 4-pole 2.5mm jacks. Take a look at Sennheiser (what I use). I'm sure there are others. http://www.sennheisercommunications.com/comm/icm_eng.nsf/root/products_mobile_mobile_music Don Wolfgang S.

Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Vladimír Lapáček
Hi, I would like to ask about the decision to use the 2.5 mm audio jack in Neo 1973. If it is seriously intended to be used as a music player, people would most likely use their ordinary headphones. In my opinion most widely used audio jack is 3.5 mm, so why does Neo 1973 use the 2.5mm one?

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hallo Vladimír, * Vladimír Lapáček [EMAIL PROTECTED] [24-04-07 12:58]: I would like to ask about the decision to use the 2.5 mm audio jack in Neo 1973. If it is seriously intended to be used as a music player, people would most likely use their ordinary headphones. In my opinion most widely

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 24 kwietnia 2007, Vladimír Lapáček napisał: I would like to ask about the decision to use the 2.5 mm audio jack in Neo 1973. If it is seriously intended to be used as a music player, people would most likely use their ordinary headphones. In my opinion most widely used audio jack

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Tim Niemeyer wrote: Hallo Vladimír, * Vladimír Lapáček [EMAIL PROTECTED] [24-04-07 12:58]: I would like to ask about the decision to use the 2.5 mm audio jack in Neo 1973. If it is seriously intended to be used as a music player, people would most likely use their ordinary headphones. In my

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Vladimír Lapáček
Interesting thing to consider is how many people would like to use the headset and how many would it use for playing music. My estimate is much bigger for the second, but it may be pretty much skewed. Using an adapter might be an option but not for mainstream (I know, the phone is not

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Thomas Seiler
Hi Am 24.04.2007 um 12:58 schrieb Vladimír Lapáček: so why does Neo 1973 use the 2.5mm one? That makes perfectly sense: because the majority of headsets for mobile phones are 2.5mm Isn't the questiont ths: Why doesn't it provide *additionally* a 3.5mm jack ? That would be sweet!!! (and

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Thomas Seiler wrote: Hi Am 24.04.2007 um 12:58 schrieb Vladimír Lapáček: so why does Neo 1973 use the 2.5mm one? That makes perfectly sense: because the majority of headsets for mobile phones are 2.5mm Isn't the questiont ths: Why doesn't it provide *additionally* a 3.5mm jack ? That

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hallo Thomas, * Thomas Seiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [24-04-07 14:41]: Am 24.04.2007 um 12:58 schrieb Vladimír Lapáček: so why does Neo 1973 use the 2.5mm one? That makes perfectly sense: because the majority of headsets for mobile phones are 2.5mm Isn't the questiont ths: Why doesn't it

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Vladimír Lapáček
Adapter in the shipping box is completely ok, from my view point. Vladimir On 4/24/07, Tim Niemeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo Thomas, * Thomas Seiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [24-04-07 14:41]: Am 24.04.2007 um 12:58 schrieb Vladimír Lapáček: so why does Neo 1973 use the 2.5mm one? That

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 12:58 +0200, Vladimír Lapáček wrote: I would like to ask about the decision to use the 2.5 mm audio jack in Neo 1973. If it is seriously intended to be used as a music player, people would most likely use their ordinary headphones. In my opinion most widely used audio

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Sander van Grieken
There are adapters for 2.5mm - 3.5mm. Which are either one long bit of plastic that lever the jack off the PCB, or a cable to tangle. However, availability of 3.5mm headsets may be an issue. I think an adapter is somewhat impractical (and will probably break the solder at some point), but

Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
Why so complicated? Just add an adapter to the equipment in the shipping Box... I agree ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread christopher cottam
* Thomas Seiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [24-04-07 14:41]: Am 24.04.2007 um 12:58 schrieb Vladimír LapáÄ#65533;ek: so why does Neo 1973 use the 2.5mm one? That makes perfectly sense: because the majority of headsets for mobile phones are 2.5mm Isn't the questiont ths: Why doesn't it provide

Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
I think an adapter is somewhat impractical (and will probably break the solder at some point), but I'm planning on A2DP (eventually) anyway. I dissagree. When you use the hands free, you have the phone in your pocket. When connecting the phone to the hifi, the phone is usually on a table.

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hallo christopher, * christopher cottam [EMAIL PROTECTED] [24-04-07 13:34]: I'd much rather have a 3.5mm socket on the phone and a 2.5 mm adaptor as I'm never going to use a head set and there's a good chance I'll use a pair of normal head phones with it regularly I don't mind about 3.5 or

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Carlo E. Prelz
Subject: Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm Date: Tue 24 Apr 07 04:01:41PM +0200 Quoting Tim Niemeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I don't mind about 3.5 or 2.5mm, but we could start a vote. ;-) Or a flame war 8-) Carlo -- * Se la Strada e la sua Virtu' non fossero state messe da parte

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Jonathon Suggs
I don't mind about 3.5 or 2.5mm, but we could start a vote. ;-) Or a flame war 8-) Carlo Umm, I don't think we can just vote and have the hardware magically change. It takes quite a bit of time (and necessary hardware) to change the design. So unless this is a vote for future

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Brian Beattie
On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 14:44 +0200, Vladimír Lapáček wrote: Interesting thing to consider is how many people would like to use the headset and how many would it use for playing music. My estimate is much bigger for the second, but it may be pretty much skewed. Using an adapter might be an

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Chris Fazekas
My Moto V3i uses USB for the headphones/mic. You wanna talk about frustrating. This is going to have Bluetooth right? I imagine there are bluetooth headphones? Wouldn't that solve all problems? Wires suck. Le Example: http://www.expansys.ca/p.aspx?i=144922 (DJ Style)

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Chris Fazekas
In reply to my own post here is a huge list of them: http://www.nextag.com/bluetooth-headphones/search-html On 4/24/07, Chris Fazekas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Moto V3i uses USB for the headphones/mic. You wanna talk about frustrating. This is going to have Bluetooth right? I imagine

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Eric Heinemann
7:44:15 AM Subject: Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm Interesting thing to consider is how many people would like to use the headset and how many would it use for playing music. My estimate is much bigger for the second, but it may be pretty much skewed. Using an adapter might be an option

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Vladimír Lapáček writes: I would like to ask about the decision to use the 2.5 mm audio jack in Neo 1973. If it is seriously intended to be used as a music player, people would most likely use their ordinary headphones. In my opinion most widely used audio jack is 3.5 mm, so why does Neo 1973

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
My Moto V3i uses USB for the headphones/mic. You wanna talk about frustrating. This is going to have Bluetooth right? I imagine there are bluetooth headphones? Wouldn't that solve all problems? Wires suck. BT hands free uses a lot of power ___

Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
In reply to my own mail: I have a motorola that has only one connector: the usb. It works great for hands free. I don't know if this is supported by the neo1973 hardware but if it is, this could be the solution. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Chris Fazekas
On 4/24/07, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Moto V3i uses USB for the headphones/mic. You wanna talk about frustrating. This is going to have Bluetooth right? I imagine there are bluetooth headphones? Wouldn't that solve all problems? Wires suck. BT hands free uses a

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Jeff Andros
On 4/24/07, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to my own mail: I have a motorola that has only one connector: the usb. It works great for hands free. I don't know if this is supported by the neo1973 hardware but if it is, this could be the solution.

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Jeff Andros wrote: On 4/24/07, *Flemming Richter Mikkelsen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to my own mail: I have a motorola that has only one connector: the usb. It works great for hands free. I don't know if this is supported by the neo1973

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread polz
On Tuesday 24 April 2007 20:20:38 Ian Stirling wrote: Jeff Andros wrote: On 4/24/07, *Flemming Richter Mikkelsen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to my own mail: I have a motorola that has only one connector: the usb. It works great for hands

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Ian Stirling
polz wrote: On Tuesday 24 April 2007 20:20:38 Ian Stirling wrote: Jeff Andros wrote: On 4/24/07, *Flemming Richter Mikkelsen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to my own mail: I have a motorola that has only one connector: the usb. It works great for

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-24 Thread Thomas Seiler
Am 24.04.2007 um 20:20 schrieb Ian Stirling: The USB chip is integrated into the SOC, the sound chip is on another bus. You can get arbitrary sound quality over USB, with a USB DAC. Not when the USB Host Port doesn't supply the power (+5Volts) needed to power that DAC. Cheers, Thomas